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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover 10:37 - Sep 5 with 27834 viewsAxeldalai_lama

Will be interesting to see how they're compared to environmental groups who did the same and who mainly showed their faces. Were anti terror laws used against them in the end? Weren't there calls by certain sections on the right to run them over?

Let's wait and see.
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 15:07 - Sep 11 with 1225 viewsBlueschev

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 14:46 - Sep 11 by DJR

A couple of interesting passages in this article.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk


"The Royal National Lifeboat Institution (RNLI) has had a “significant” boost in donations since becoming a target of far-right agitators protesting over small boat crossings."


"Knox-Johnston [vice-presidentt of the RNLI] said of the charity being targeted: “Like many supporters of the RNLI, I am very angry about it because they are picking on the wrong people.
“These are volunteers who risk their lives to go out and save anyone at sea” Knox-Johnson, the first solo sailor to circumnavigate the world non-stop, told BBC Radio Solent.
“What people don’t seem to understand is the RNLI don’t go out looking for people – they only go out when specifically asked by the coastguard, whose job is safety of life at sea – regardless of nationality.
“They are doing their job, they are saying there are people whose lives are in danger – RNLI please can you send a boat and remove the risk."


The latter knocks on the head the claim that the RNLI is a taxi service, but sadly the simplistic slogan, which is designed to cause an emotional response as with many slogans from the right, achieves its aim amongst those taken in by it.
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So what you're saying is, the anger of the patriot heroes should be directed at the coastguard?
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 15:38 - Sep 11 with 1148 viewsRyorry

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 14:08 - Sep 11 by giant_stow

Me and my 87 year old mum were chatting about this sort of issue the other day. She blamed the decline in teaching / popularity of sociological / arts subjects, which always emphasise the importance of evaluating source material and generally allowing for bias in what people say or publish.

I think she might have a point.
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That might well be true of some, but I was referring to all ages, not just younger generations or more recent education systems.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 15:46 - Sep 11 with 1126 viewsDJR

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 15:07 - Sep 11 by Blueschev

So what you're saying is, the anger of the patriot heroes should be directed at the coastguard?
[Post edited 11 Sep 15:08]


I did deliberately leave out this part of the quote so as to not give the game away.

“If you want this [the Coastguard contacting RNLI] to stop the government have got to stop it, but picking on RNLI crews who are doing the job they are trained to do is frankly quite disgraceful.” [
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 17:08 - Sep 11 with 1037 viewsGlasgowBlue

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 18:10 - Sep 8 by Swansea_Blue

No surprise it’s Ferrari, but yes pretty frightening. The Beeb gave one of them an extended interview slot yesterday too. The lack of condemnation from a good junk of the media and politicians alike is equally disturbing and confusing. The response to a masked vigilante army (albeit one without weapons (yet?)) should be widespread outrage and condemnation. But apparently it’s fine and we need to understand them.

When was the last time we saw these sorts of images of balaclava clad men on the streets - the IRA during the Troubles maybe?


In answer to your question. On the streets of London regularly since October 7 2023,





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Sometimes I think about the frothing lunatics I’ve put on ignore, who will have kept replying to me again and again, but I don’t even realise they exist.
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 22:29 - Sep 11 with 871 viewsFoghornGleghorn

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:37 - Sep 11 by Ryorry

One of the few advantages of being elderly is that it gives you long decades of experience.

There are different kinds of intelligence; I've found that many good people who have emotional intelligence but whose strength isn't the academic kind, are those whose reactions are more likely to be ones of fear and emotion rather than using logic.


Thing is, what's to be done about that? If the most emotionally-intelligent person on the planet wasn't academically-intelligent enough to understand why they're incorrect about something and yet were still happy to vocally trot out nonsense, then they're just as dangerous as the garden-variety idiot who's happy for their views to be manipulated by Moscow Nige, even when they're going against their own first-hand experience.
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 23:10 - Sep 11 with 818 viewsRyorry

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 22:29 - Sep 11 by FoghornGleghorn

Thing is, what's to be done about that? If the most emotionally-intelligent person on the planet wasn't academically-intelligent enough to understand why they're incorrect about something and yet were still happy to vocally trot out nonsense, then they're just as dangerous as the garden-variety idiot who's happy for their views to be manipulated by Moscow Nige, even when they're going against their own first-hand experience.


I'm not a politician, educationalist or genius! so not qualified to answer that, though on the face of it I'd say it's probably too late for older generations, hope lies in more and better education for the younger ones in future.

What I was trying to point out was that if people lack academic, analytical, or critical thinking skills, that isn't necessarily their fault or automatically mean they're bad or unkind people. The reverse can of course also be true - those having high academic skills & intelligence doesn't necessarily mean they're good or kind people.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 03:30 - Sep 12 with 704 viewsBenters

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 17:08 - Sep 11 by GlasgowBlue

In answer to your question. On the streets of London regularly since October 7 2023,





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Well apart from those fine looking chaps Glassers !

I can’t believe Swanners asked that tbh,must have his blinkers on maybe?
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 07:35 - Sep 12 with 631 viewsTexaco73

This has been a terrific distraction days after the Dispatches undercover reporting of Reform donations.
Meanwhile, another cryto billionaire with a previous conviction of falling to implement anti money laundering controls, (pardoned by Trump) living in Hong Hong, drops £36 million on Reform.

But yeah.. Stop the boats.. Raise the flag...Protect our women...blah, blah blah...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:08 - Sep 12 with 584 viewsDubtractor

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 07:35 - Sep 12 by Texaco73

This has been a terrific distraction days after the Dispatches undercover reporting of Reform donations.
Meanwhile, another cryto billionaire with a previous conviction of falling to implement anti money laundering controls, (pardoned by Trump) living in Hong Hong, drops £36 million on Reform.

But yeah.. Stop the boats.. Raise the flag...Protect our women...blah, blah blah...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art


All totally above board, nothing suspicious to see here, look over there at those men in black.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:19 - Sep 12 with 559 viewsbalcombeblue

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 03:30 - Sep 12 by Benters

Well apart from those fine looking chaps Glassers !

I can’t believe Swanners asked that tbh,must have his blinkers on maybe?
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Is there potentially a double standard being applied?

Or is it ok, because they are standing up for oppressed people?
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:31 - Sep 12 with 524 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 03:30 - Sep 12 by Benters

Well apart from those fine looking chaps Glassers !

I can’t believe Swanners asked that tbh,must have his blinkers on maybe?
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Can't believe you didn't think of this for yourself Benters!

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:34 - Sep 12 with 515 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:19 - Sep 12 by balcombeblue

Is there potentially a double standard being applied?

Or is it ok, because they are standing up for oppressed people?


Pretty sure none of these involved the masking of an entire demonstration/protest group but feel free to try and move the focus to and cling to this tiny little chink of light.
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"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:37 - Sep 12 with 513 viewsDubtractor

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:34 - Sep 12 by BanksterDebtSlave

Pretty sure none of these involved the masking of an entire demonstration/protest group but feel free to try and move the focus to and cling to this tiny little chink of light.
[Post edited 12 Sep 9:45]


Unless I've missed it, no one has said that the islamic lefty people's front are fine either. May not have been picked up/commented on, but I'd imagine most also disagree with their approach too.

I was born underwater, I dried out in the sun. I started humping volcanoes baby, when I was too young.
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:40 - Sep 12 with 501 viewsbalcombeblue

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:37 - Sep 12 by Dubtractor

Unless I've missed it, no one has said that the islamic lefty people's front are fine either. May not have been picked up/commented on, but I'd imagine most also disagree with their approach too.


I certainly do and appreciate that you would too.

It's funny how I am criticised above for pointing out the very obvious, sort of proves the point.
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:48 - Sep 12 with 483 viewsBenters

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 07:35 - Sep 12 by Texaco73

This has been a terrific distraction days after the Dispatches undercover reporting of Reform donations.
Meanwhile, another cryto billionaire with a previous conviction of falling to implement anti money laundering controls, (pardoned by Trump) living in Hong Hong, drops £36 million on Reform.

But yeah.. Stop the boats.. Raise the flag...Protect our women...blah, blah blah...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art


Lovely stuff Nigel said to me he will pay for my driveway to be cleaned,isn’t that kind of him.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:50 - Sep 12 with 477 viewsBenters

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:19 - Sep 12 by balcombeblue

Is there potentially a double standard being applied?

Or is it ok, because they are standing up for oppressed people?


Two Tier masking that’s what it is buh!

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 09:39 - Sep 12 with 412 viewsDJR

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 07:35 - Sep 12 by Texaco73

This has been a terrific distraction days after the Dispatches undercover reporting of Reform donations.
Meanwhile, another cryto billionaire with a previous conviction of falling to implement anti money laundering controls, (pardoned by Trump) living in Hong Hong, drops £36 million on Reform.

But yeah.. Stop the boats.. Raise the flag...Protect our women...blah, blah blah...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art


£36 million is going to by an awful lot of targeted Facebook ads and the like.
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:35 - Sep 12 with 349 viewspositivity

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 09:39 - Sep 12 by DJR

£36 million is going to by an awful lot of targeted Facebook ads and the like.
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a vast amount of blackshirts/balaclavas too.

funny how reform's supporters are happy about another convicted criminal crypto billionaire donating.

for the very few, against the many

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:54 - Sep 12 with 302 viewsBenters

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:31 - Sep 12 by BanksterDebtSlave

Can't believe you didn't think of this for yourself Benters!


You know me I don’t like to upset the apple cart..

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:16 - Sep 12 with 263 viewsMattinLondon

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:50 - Sep 12 by Benters

Two Tier masking that’s what it is buh!


Reform and hate-preacher Farage are the very definition of two-tier attitudes towards violence.

When it happens against them it’s all ‘I need protection’.

When one of their fanboys attack a young woman by smashing her around the head with a stick, let’s make a joke about it.
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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:34 - Sep 12 with 239 viewsSwansea_Blue

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 17:08 - Sep 11 by GlasgowBlue

In answer to your question. On the streets of London regularly since October 7 2023,





[Post edited 11 Sep 17:13]


Who are these Glassers? Are they militant Islamist groups? It looks like it from the writing on that flag in the first picture. Obviously not a good look on the face of it. I don’t think it’s acceptable to be masked. Or rather it crosses the line from ‘reasonable’ civil disobedience to something darker and more sinister and should be treated more severely by the authorities. Not good at all.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:55 - Sep 12 with 194 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 09:39 - Sep 12 by DJR

£36 million is going to by an awful lot of targeted Facebook ads and the like.
[Post edited 12 Sep 9:39]


If, indeed, that's where the money goes.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 12:00 - Sep 12 with 187 viewsSwansea_Blue

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:37 - Sep 12 by Dubtractor

Unless I've missed it, no one has said that the islamic lefty people's front are fine either. May not have been picked up/commented on, but I'd imagine most also disagree with their approach too.


Quite.

I wan’t aware we had multiple masked groups vying for ‘tvvat’s of the year’ award. I know Antifa used to be active, but not seen anything from them lately. I don’t know anything about these Herberts Glassers has shown.

If you think intimidation tactics using shows of force through mass groups, uniforms, masks, etc., is not good, it should apply to all these groups imo. It shouldn’t matter whether you agree with their underlying beliefs/cause or not.

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 12:22 - Sep 12 with 144 viewspositivity

These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:16 - Sep 12 by MattinLondon

Reform and hate-preacher Farage are the very definition of two-tier attitudes towards violence.

When it happens against them it’s all ‘I need protection’.

When one of their fanboys attack a young woman by smashing her around the head with a stick, let’s make a joke about it.


typical bully behaviour, which is a pattern with farage.

happy to pick on those they perceive to be weak, but turn into whiny snowflakes whenever anyone stands up to them.

most of them come from privileged backgrounds, so they're used to getting their own way?

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These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 12:27 - Sep 12 with 132 viewsOldFootball

It's amazing how one protest has captured so much attention, compared to thousands of previous demonstrations. I wonder why that is.
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