| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... 22:41 - Oct 3 with 3550 views | Scuzzer |
Injured?
sensible answers please. |  |
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 22:48 - Oct 3 with 3366 views | hsg78 |
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 23:20 - Oct 3 with 3255 views | J2BLUE |
Dropped down the pecking order a little. Would be surprised if he's not a little annoyed after the world cup when he didn't get a chance.
I'm sure he will work his way back into their squad. |  | | |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 23:25 - Oct 3 with 3229 views | Smoresy |
Some way down the pecking order now with McBurnie starting in the PL, Ure in La Liga and Bowie in Serie A. Three injured too in Adams, Shankland and Stewart, while Dykes missed out despite being in the goals for Millwall. | | | |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 00:21 - Oct 4 with 3090 views | Churchman |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 23:20 - Oct 3 by J2BLUE |
Dropped down the pecking order a little. Would be surprised if he's not a little annoyed after the world cup when he didn't get a chance.
I'm sure he will work his way back into their squad. |
Looking at the mostly garbage turning out for Scotland in the World Cup, I thought he deserved a chance, J2. I guess he’s just not for the current manager, but he’s a good player and I also think he will work his way back into it. |  | | |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 08:16 - Oct 4 with 2615 views | N2_Blue |
Because he’s been terrible for the last 12 months.
Scotland taking Hirst over McBurnie to the last World Cup was a totally bizarre decision |  |
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 12:31 - Oct 4 with 2286 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
He’s not even first choice for Stoke, so not really a surprise he didn’t make the cut.
Hopefully he can find some form again. | | | |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 12:48 - Oct 4 with 2235 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 12:31 - Oct 4 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
He’s not even first choice for Stoke, so not really a surprise he didn’t make the cut.
Hopefully he can find some form again. |
It baffles me that people don't know this, unless people seriously believe the Stoke City bench is Scotland international level. |  |
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 12:56 - Oct 4 with 2209 views | braveblue |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 00:21 - Oct 4 by Churchman |
Looking at the mostly garbage turning out for Scotland in the World Cup, I thought he deserved a chance, J2. I guess he’s just not for the current manager, but he’s a good player and I also think he will work his way back into it. |
Nowhere near good enough. | | | |
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 12:58 - Oct 4 with 2196 views | FrimleyBlue |
Because the best of Hirst was 23/24. Since then hes slowly declining. |  |
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 14:49 - Oct 4 with 1985 views | DJR |
Perhaps it just goes to prove that for a two or three year period, McKenna managed to work his magic by getting many players (some more limited than others) to play at the height of their ability, and also to play as a team that was greater than the sum of its parts. [Post edited 4 Oct 14:57]
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 14:58 - Oct 4 with 1940 views | Guthrum |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 08:16 - Oct 4 by N2_Blue |
Because he’s been terrible for the last 12 months.
Scotland taking Hirst over McBurnie to the last World Cup was a totally bizarre decision |
Doubly so as they didn't even use him. |  |
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 15:15 - Oct 4 with 1917 views | RetroBlue |
He was rarely given a chance. |  |
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| Good for Town for 2 seasons; now out of form at Stoke - £4m at risk on 15:32 - Oct 4 with 1888 views | unstableblue |
Scotland not going to select when can’t get a start at Stoke
Shame as he’s shown in league one, champ and premier league that he can be quality
Our £10m fee was only £6m up front and imagine the balance is linked to appearances/ goals. [Post edited 4 Oct 17:12]
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 15:52 - Oct 4 with 1826 views | HighgateBlue |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 14:49 - Oct 4 by DJR |
Perhaps it just goes to prove that for a two or three year period, McKenna managed to work his magic by getting many players (some more limited than others) to play at the height of their ability, and also to play as a team that was greater than the sum of its parts. [Post edited 4 Oct 14:57]
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That is true, and there's no doubt that McKenna is (was?) a first rate coach.
But having spent so very much money on our squad, it shouldn't have been as limited as it was.
McKenna was still trying to buy a right winger in Femi Azeez (even once we had spent a big fortune on McAteer and Egeli, who for various reasons were not as effective as Burns but cost thousands of times as much) rather than fix the number 9 shaped hole in our squad which was glaring to most fans.
Oh yeah, and Akpom never got a chance in his actual position, despite Hirst's inadequacies. Their respective records this season hardly support McKenna's approach. |  | | |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 17:08 - Oct 4 with 1715 views | vapour_trail |
Not for the new manager currently. Suspect that may be his international gig done. |  |
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 18:09 - Oct 4 with 1632 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 15:52 - Oct 4 by HighgateBlue |
That is true, and there's no doubt that McKenna is (was?) a first rate coach.
But having spent so very much money on our squad, it shouldn't have been as limited as it was.
McKenna was still trying to buy a right winger in Femi Azeez (even once we had spent a big fortune on McAteer and Egeli, who for various reasons were not as effective as Burns but cost thousands of times as much) rather than fix the number 9 shaped hole in our squad which was glaring to most fans.
Oh yeah, and Akpom never got a chance in his actual position, despite Hirst's inadequacies. Their respective records this season hardly support McKenna's approach. |
It was still amazing for me that hirst and azon went 14 games without a goal and neither akpom nor egeli got a shot. | |
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 19:27 - Oct 4 with 1518 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 08:16 - Oct 4 by N2_Blue |
Because he’s been terrible for the last 12 months.
Scotland taking Hirst over McBurnie to the last World Cup was a totally bizarre decision |
It wasn't that bizarre to take Hirst. It was bizarre to take Dykes. |  |
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 19:33 - Oct 4 with 1502 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 08:16 - Oct 4 by N2_Blue |
Because he’s been terrible for the last 12 months.
Scotland taking Hirst over McBurnie to the last World Cup was a totally bizarre decision |
I agree. Poor old George has had a tough time of it lately. I’d pick McBurnie as first choice every time.
So related to that, I can’t understand how Dykes is an automatic on the team sheet. He’s a terrible footballer. He limits them to being a team that thinks they can only compete by being thuggish flat track bullies. They’ve got no chance of progressing with him leading the line. It’s right up there with Keane’s big forearms bollox. |  |
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 19:50 - Oct 4 with 1478 views | HighgateBlue |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 18:09 - Oct 4 by FrimleyBlue |
It was still amazing for me that hirst and azon went 14 games without a goal and neither akpom nor egeli got a shot. |
Yup.
I lost count of the number of times last season I kept saying that we did not have a top 6 striker at the club, despite all of the money we had spent. I added how hard it is to get promoted without one, and I thought it would ultimately be our downfall. At that level, our defence was a strength. Of course, McKenna's coaching got us home. So it was job done, and ultimately a job well done. Lots of credit where it's due.
But one detail I added last season, which made me think that we weren't scoring enough to finish top 2 was the lack of goals from the number 10 position. We had managed to succeed in the double promotion seasons with goals coming from the number 10 position, which we didn't really have last season, because a fair few were tried there, and none really contributed in that way. Akpom and SS obviously didn't work out there. Nunez hit his pair of wonder freekicks, which were a pleasure, but I think there was only one open play league goal all season from him. We dragged ourselves over the line with goals from the left wing.
Players sometimes work better at club A than club B, because of personalities, systems, form, random chance, injuries, whatever.
But sadly Hirst has cemented the proof this season that he is not really a top half Championship striker. I think Norwich still have 2 that are better, despite losing Sargent. And Hirst is still 27 - it's not like he's over the hill.
But hey, that's the past, and the signings of Emersonn and Flemming each individually look excellent. Together, they look even better because (a) we're not understaffed in that key position, and (b) they have complementary attributes, which means that they can be the appropriate tool for different situations, and they can teach each other a thing or two. | | | |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 21:03 - Oct 4 with 1375 views | bournemouthblue |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 08:16 - Oct 4 by N2_Blue |
Because he’s been terrible for the last 12 months.
Scotland taking Hirst over McBurnie to the last World Cup was a totally bizarre decision |
That is bizarre but they have generally favoured Dykes over him which is equally mad, Dykes is incredibly limited? |  |
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 21:44 - Oct 4 with 1322 views | jas0999 |
Simply not anywhere near good enough. Shame for him, but not selected for a reason. If he was good enough he’d be in the squad. | | | |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 08:15 - Oct 5 with 1070 views | DJR |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 15:52 - Oct 4 by HighgateBlue |
That is true, and there's no doubt that McKenna is (was?) a first rate coach.
But having spent so very much money on our squad, it shouldn't have been as limited as it was.
McKenna was still trying to buy a right winger in Femi Azeez (even once we had spent a big fortune on McAteer and Egeli, who for various reasons were not as effective as Burns but cost thousands of times as much) rather than fix the number 9 shaped hole in our squad which was glaring to most fans.
Oh yeah, and Akpom never got a chance in his actual position, despite Hirst's inadequacies. Their respective records this season hardly support McKenna's approach. |
Maybe last season was the exception that proved the rule. | | | |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 16:55 - Oct 5 with 728 views | ITFC_Essex |
| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 08:16 - Oct 4 by N2_Blue |
Because he’s been terrible for the last 12 months.
Scotland taking Hirst over McBurnie to the last World Cup was a totally bizarre decision |
He statistically has just come off his best ever season, must feel hard done by after achieving that, and a promotion he's out of the picture internationally, and is playing in the mire with Stoke in the Championship. Not a heroic end for a player who helped turn this club around. |  |
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 20:30 - Oct 5 with 603 views | Rimsy |
Coz he's shit. Even for Scotland |  |
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| Anybody know why George Hirst is not involved with Scotland anymore... on 10:19 - Oct 6 with 328 views | MaySixth |
He was deemed by Steve Clarke to be not good enough to play a single second at the World Cup and then the new manager has not selected him. |  |
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