| The unnamed celebrity scandal 23:37 - Nov 3 with 13452 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Obviously everyone knows and has known for months who it is. I’d actually heard from my man in the media about it in December 2025. It goes without saying… don’t name him as it lands Phil and the site in trouble.
What was interesting about today’s case going against him (subject to appeal) is that it’s now public knowledge he tried to kill himself twice in 2026 regarding the story being on the brink of publicity. The Telegraph first reporting their separate (yet similar story) at the end of last year wa obviously the start of it all crumbling.
Fascinating viewing. My question for TWTD and the reason for the thread is now it is established that he did actually try to kill himself twice over this and so it’s not an empty threat is the correct thing morally:
A) he stays anonymous. And the two very high level investigations from the two media teams involved take the case to the police. And only once he’s charged is he named.
B) the story of the 10+ victims is told as they wished and the media are allowed to publish what they’ve found through investigatitive journalism that first began over 2 years ago now to get to the bottom of the story. But runs the risk of him committing suicide.
What is the moral rightful outcome here?
Finally once again it’s genuinely something I’m interested in the forums opinion on and so please don’t be a t*t and get the thread pulled by naming him or subtly hinting at the person. We all know who it is - zero need to start making stupid jokes and run the risk of it being deleted before an interesting discussion can take place.
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:09 - Nov 10 | giant_stow |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:01 - Nov 10 by Swansea_Blue |
It’s very ‘ick’ isn’t it. Some of the reported encounters don’t sound illegal in isolation. It’ll be the potential grooming element that could cause him issues. (From what I’ve heard from snippets on radio news - there could be a lot more to come out of course). What is it with these celebs who abuse their power? |
I think it says something about the power of celebrity, but also how as a society, we have some pretty grey areas over acceptable age gaps, especially involving 18-19 year old girls and older blokes.
Edit: even how I framed that falls into the trap I spose... what about a 20 year old girl with a 50 year bloke - is ok? Legally, it obviously is, but I'd imagine everyone has their own cut-off points for whats moral and what isn't [Post edited 10 Nov 16:10]
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:13 - Nov 10 | nrb1985 |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:09 - Nov 10 by giant_stow |
I think it says something about the power of celebrity, but also how as a society, we have some pretty grey areas over acceptable age gaps, especially involving 18-19 year old girls and older blokes.
Edit: even how I framed that falls into the trap I spose... what about a 20 year old girl with a 50 year bloke - is ok? Legally, it obviously is, but I'd imagine everyone has their own cut-off points for whats moral and what isn't [Post edited 10 Nov 16:10]
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Re age gaps I think a lot of that has to do with how expensive it is to have a family and a "normal" life in the UK now, particularly in London.
I wouldn't bat an eyelid now if I saw a girl in her 20s with a bloke in his 40s.
The odds of being financialy successful these days are firmly stacked against the girl/anybody in their 20s now. [Post edited 10 Nov 16:15]
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:19 - Nov 10 | ITFC_Essex |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:13 - Nov 10 by nrb1985 |
Re age gaps I think a lot of that has to do with how expensive it is to have a family and a "normal" life in the UK now, particularly in London.
I wouldn't bat an eyelid now if I saw a girl in her 20s with a bloke in his 40s.
The odds of being financialy successful these days are firmly stacked against the girl/anybody in their 20s now. [Post edited 10 Nov 16:15]
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He was noncling on 15 year olds and cashing them up after meeting them on MySpace and then grooming them. [Post edited 10 Nov 16:22]
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:20 - Nov 10 | nrb1985 |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:19 - Nov 10 by ITFC_Essex |
He was noncling on 15 year olds and cashing them up after meeting them on MySpace and then grooming them. [Post edited 10 Nov 16:22]
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I was responding to the point about grey areas around age gaps.
Not being a nonce. | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:21 - Nov 10 | mellowblue |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:19 - Nov 10 by ITFC_Essex |
He was noncling on 15 year olds and cashing them up after meeting them on MySpace and then grooming them. [Post edited 10 Nov 16:22]
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not sure you mean 5 year olds ? | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:23 - Nov 10 | ITFC_Essex |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:20 - Nov 10 by nrb1985 |
I was responding to the point about grey areas around age gaps.
Not being a nonce. |
There's no grey areas here though, BBC enabled perv and weirdo at it again. More to follow. Many more. | |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:26 - Nov 10 | nrb1985 |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:23 - Nov 10 by ITFC_Essex |
There's no grey areas here though, BBC enabled perv and weirdo at it again. More to follow. Many more. |
wtf are you talking about you oddball.
The poster said we have grey areas around large age gaps and offered an explanation as to why that’s becoming more prevalent.
You seem to have interpreted that as me condoning noncing ffs. | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:40 - Nov 10 | soupytwist |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:23 - Nov 10 by ITFC_Essex |
There's no grey areas here though, BBC enabled perv and weirdo at it again. More to follow. Many more. |
Could you please edit your post to say "BBC, ITV and Rupert Murdoch owned Harper Collins enabled perv and weirdo" for, you know, the sake of balance and that?
Plenty of allegations in The Guardian coverage from his authoring and talent show judging activities. |  | | |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:47 - Nov 10 | _CliveBaker_ |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:01 - Nov 10 by Swansea_Blue |
It’s very ‘ick’ isn’t it. Some of the reported encounters don’t sound illegal in isolation. It’ll be the potential grooming element that could cause him issues. (From what I’ve heard from snippets on radio news - there could be a lot more to come out of course). What is it with these celebs who abuse their power? |
I guess that'll be the crux of it. Distinguishing between what is morally reprehensible and outright weird behaviour vs. what crosses in to a criminal offence. To be meeting girls of 15 / 16 at a book signing when you're in your 30's and writing to them / DM'ing them etc is really messed up. There's no doubt in my mind that's grooming. His behaviour when in the company of those poor girls also very much seems to meet the definition of harassment, and potentially assault in 1 of the cases documented.
I guess the court of law will establish criminality, what's pretty obvious aside from that is he's a wrong un. |  | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:48 - Nov 10 | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:40 - Nov 10 by soupytwist |
Could you please edit your post to say "BBC, ITV and Rupert Murdoch owned Harper Collins enabled perv and weirdo" for, you know, the sake of balance and that?
Plenty of allegations in The Guardian coverage from his authoring and talent show judging activities. |
This poster has previous for having beef with the BBC. |  |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 17:36 - Nov 10 | MJallday |
On the plus side this years prison panto is looking to be a cracker |  |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 17:50 - Nov 10 | Swansea_Blue |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:09 - Nov 10 by giant_stow |
I think it says something about the power of celebrity, but also how as a society, we have some pretty grey areas over acceptable age gaps, especially involving 18-19 year old girls and older blokes.
Edit: even how I framed that falls into the trap I spose... what about a 20 year old girl with a 50 year bloke - is ok? Legally, it obviously is, but I'd imagine everyone has their own cut-off points for whats moral and what isn't [Post edited 10 Nov 16:10]
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I wouldn’t be too worried about age gaps either way, yet there always has been a bit of a stigma around large gaps hasn’t there. Blokes seem to face less criticism when they’re with much younger women than vice versa. Presumably the vast majority of large age gap relationships are perfectly normal and loving relationships though, whereas this seems something else. If it was ‘only’ 18 year olds he had preyed on it wouldn’t be as bad (not good, but legal), but grooming them from 15 is obviously a big problem. Uck. |  |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 10:39 - Nov 11 | Ryorry |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 17:50 - Nov 10 by Swansea_Blue |
I wouldn’t be too worried about age gaps either way, yet there always has been a bit of a stigma around large gaps hasn’t there. Blokes seem to face less criticism when they’re with much younger women than vice versa. Presumably the vast majority of large age gap relationships are perfectly normal and loving relationships though, whereas this seems something else. If it was ‘only’ 18 year olds he had preyed on it wouldn’t be as bad (not good, but legal), but grooming them from 15 is obviously a big problem. Uck. |
Well said, there is indeed a lot of stigma around age gaps, usually completely unwarranted once people are into their early twenties. My Dad was 15 years older than Mum; they married when she was 23, their love and marriage lasted till Dad died age 77.
I myself also had a relationship with a guy when I was 23 for a few years, he was 17 years older than me; it was based purely on love and mutual attraction/interests, nothing whatsoever to do with money, so whoever generalised about that can do one! |  |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 10:46 - Nov 11 | ArnoldMoorhen |
"Fascinating viewing"?
Mental Health, Suicide, and the appalling conviction rate in sexual assault and rape cases are not entertainment. | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 10:54 - Nov 11 | ArnoldMoorhen |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 10:39 - Nov 11 by Ryorry |
Well said, there is indeed a lot of stigma around age gaps, usually completely unwarranted once people are into their early twenties. My Dad was 15 years older than Mum; they married when she was 23, their love and marriage lasted till Dad died age 77.
I myself also had a relationship with a guy when I was 23 for a few years, he was 17 years older than me; it was based purely on love and mutual attraction/interests, nothing whatsoever to do with money, so whoever generalised about that can do one! |
That's not quite the same thing as celebrities in their forties and fifties with 18 year olds.
Age, experience, charisma, the use of fame as a lure, wealth, access to glamorous places the younger person has only seen on idealised, aspirational Instagram videos.
Plying with expensive drinks, encouraging them to "loosen up" and try "fun" party drugs.
They all play a part in seducing someone into believing that they are safe when they are not. Then, when they are vulnerable, the predator strikes. | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:11 - Nov 11 | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 10:39 - Nov 11 by Ryorry |
Well said, there is indeed a lot of stigma around age gaps, usually completely unwarranted once people are into their early twenties. My Dad was 15 years older than Mum; they married when she was 23, their love and marriage lasted till Dad died age 77.
I myself also had a relationship with a guy when I was 23 for a few years, he was 17 years older than me; it was based purely on love and mutual attraction/interests, nothing whatsoever to do with money, so whoever generalised about that can do one! |
There was a documentary on Channel 4, probably at least 10 years ago, called Age Gap Love or something similar. I think you'd have liked that. Absolutely awful some of the things people went through - even being ostracised by their own family - simply for falling in love with someone of a different age. Not just being shunned, but also being verbally and even physically assaulted, spat at etc. And yet the couples featured stayed together despite all that, because their love was stronger.
I'm just over 10 years older than my partner and have dated someone 16 years younger, without it being an issue. I had an uncle and aunty where he was 20 years older - they had a long marriage and 5 daughters together (one of whom is now an actress in Eastenders!) | |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:19 - Nov 11 | DanTheMan |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 17:50 - Nov 10 by Swansea_Blue |
I wouldn’t be too worried about age gaps either way, yet there always has been a bit of a stigma around large gaps hasn’t there. Blokes seem to face less criticism when they’re with much younger women than vice versa. Presumably the vast majority of large age gap relationships are perfectly normal and loving relationships though, whereas this seems something else. If it was ‘only’ 18 year olds he had preyed on it wouldn’t be as bad (not good, but legal), but grooming them from 15 is obviously a big problem. Uck. |
Probably going against the grain here a bit, but what does someone in their 30s realistically have in common with someone in their late teens? Always felt off to me.
I feel like age gaps matter less after around 25 or so. |  |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:40 - Nov 11 | SirBobbysBoys |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:19 - Nov 11 by DanTheMan |
Probably going against the grain here a bit, but what does someone in their 30s realistically have in common with someone in their late teens? Always felt off to me.
I feel like age gaps matter less after around 25 or so. |
That's my view too. If you're say around 50, then it's OK to date someone who is 40 I think. But if you're a 30 something year old sniffing around girls in their late teens, then you're a wrong un IMO [Post edited 11 Nov 12:41]
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:53 - Nov 11 | _CliveBaker_ |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:13 - Nov 10 by nrb1985 |
Re age gaps I think a lot of that has to do with how expensive it is to have a family and a "normal" life in the UK now, particularly in London.
I wouldn't bat an eyelid now if I saw a girl in her 20s with a bloke in his 40s.
The odds of being financialy successful these days are firmly stacked against the girl/anybody in their 20s now. [Post edited 10 Nov 16:15]
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Personally I don't really think its for me or anyone else to judge what 2 consenting adults decide to do tbh. Might not be something I'd feel comfortable doing but that's by the by.
It's important to distinguish between calculated grooming and criminality vs. every day age gap relationships though, and not conflate the 2.
Walliams seemed to exclusively seek out and groom girls of that age in a very calculated way. I'd have sympathy if its a chance encounter at 30 and 18 or whatever, and they happened to develop feelings for one another and engage in a relationship. That isn't the case though. He's seemingly routinely groomed very young girls. | | | |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:55 - Nov 11 | Ryorry |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 10:54 - Nov 11 by ArnoldMoorhen |
That's not quite the same thing as celebrities in their forties and fifties with 18 year olds.
Age, experience, charisma, the use of fame as a lure, wealth, access to glamorous places the younger person has only seen on idealised, aspirational Instagram videos.
Plying with expensive drinks, encouraging them to "loosen up" and try "fun" party drugs.
They all play a part in seducing someone into believing that they are safe when they are not. Then, when they are vulnerable, the predator strikes. |
Well obviously. I wasn’t even commenting on those cases, just responding to Swanners’ response to nrb’s comment of yesterday afternoon re age gaps generally, that nrb1985 said is these days often down to some kind of sugar daddy arrangement. | |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:22 - Nov 11 | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 12:19 - Nov 11 by DanTheMan |
Probably going against the grain here a bit, but what does someone in their 30s realistically have in common with someone in their late teens? Always felt off to me.
I feel like age gaps matter less after around 25 or so. |
Do you always have to have something in common? Sometimes opposites attract. Sometimes people missing a certain something find it in another, and visa versa.
I don't think it's for us to decide why two adults should be attracted to each other. There's lots of what some might call 'odd couples', but just because it's odd to us doesn't mean anything really. | |
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| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 17:06 - Nov 11 | DanTheMan |
| The unnamed celebrity scandal on 16:22 - Nov 11 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Do you always have to have something in common? Sometimes opposites attract. Sometimes people missing a certain something find it in another, and visa versa.
I don't think it's for us to decide why two adults should be attracted to each other. There's lots of what some might call 'odd couples', but just because it's odd to us doesn't mean anything really. |
To just have casual sex? Probably not.
But in my experience, if it's an actual relationship with those kinds of ages, the older man (and it's almost certainly an older man) will be a very strange person and usually really controlling.
It's not always that way of course but being in my mid 30s myself, the idea of being with a girl younger than my niece makes me feel ill, regardless of if they are an adult.
As I say though, personal opinion, people can do what they want. [Post edited 11 Nov 17:06]
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