| Southgate toi Man U ? 09:15 - Nov 10 with 630 views | Keno |
Seeing lots of bits on Twitter claiming Southgate is about to be appointed at Man U |  |
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| Southgate toi Man U ? on 09:53 - Nov 10 | Guthrum |
As a ManU-supporting friend of mine said at the weekend, they can appoint whoever they like, it won't solve the fundamental problems with team and club. |  |
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| Southgate toi Man U ? on 10:26 - Nov 10 | davblue |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 09:53 - Nov 10 by Guthrum |
As a ManU-supporting friend of mine said at the weekend, they can appoint whoever they like, it won't solve the fundamental problems with team and club. |
Athletic are going with Poch as the favourite. Really like him as a coach but as youve said you cant see many working there unless they are a force of nature. |  | | |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 10:29 - Nov 10 | ITFC_Essex |
It's Poch, and has been for weeks according to most. |  |
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| Southgate toi Man U ? on 10:41 - Nov 10 | BlueBadger |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 10:26 - Nov 10 by davblue |
Athletic are going with Poch as the favourite. Really like him as a coach but as youve said you cant see many working there unless they are a force of nature. |
At this point, they need the modern day equivalent of a Ferguson or Clough to sort out the mess there. [Post edited 10 Nov 11:01]
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| Southgate toi Man U ? on 10:58 - Nov 10 | Guthrum |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 10:41 - Nov 10 by BlueBadger |
At this point, they need the modern day equivalent of a Ferguson or Clough to sort out the mess there. [Post edited 10 Nov 11:01]
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Probably going to take more than that, with a badly-assembled and demoralised squad, plus the layers of administrators over the head of the coach and needing to persuade the owners (one side of whom are intent on taking money out of the club, the other in running things their way) to make wide ranging - and expensive - changes. | |
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| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:04 - Nov 10 | Radlett_blue |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 09:53 - Nov 10 by Guthrum |
As a ManU-supporting friend of mine said at the weekend, they can appoint whoever they like, it won't solve the fundamental problems with team and club. |
And, yet again, will any really good manager want to take on a dysfunctional Man U in mid season? It was so predictable that Carrick would get the sack if they had a poor start & now they're in a mess again. Cue another "interim manager" who will drag them up to mid table obscurity (but still in the Champions' League!). |  |
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| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:06 - Nov 10 | davblue |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 10:58 - Nov 10 by Guthrum |
Probably going to take more than that, with a badly-assembled and demoralised squad, plus the layers of administrators over the head of the coach and needing to persuade the owners (one side of whom are intent on taking money out of the club, the other in running things their way) to make wide ranging - and expensive - changes. |
They remind me of us pre takeover, so many similarities. Apart from us not spending too much money of course. | | | |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:09 - Nov 10 | homer_123 |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:04 - Nov 10 by Radlett_blue |
And, yet again, will any really good manager want to take on a dysfunctional Man U in mid season? It was so predictable that Carrick would get the sack if they had a poor start & now they're in a mess again. Cue another "interim manager" who will drag them up to mid table obscurity (but still in the Champions' League!). |
Money talks.
And at this point, actually it's a no lose situ for managers. No one, even fans, expect any incoming manager to turn it around - so it's almost a free hit.
Do well and you've performed a miracle and your stock goes through the roof.
Fail and you aren't tarnished anywhere near like you would normally be.
Plus a nice earner either way. |  |
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| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:10 - Nov 10 | giant_stow |
I think i read some interview with Southgate the other day where he said words to the effect of I don't miss football, don't watch football and am glad to be out of it. (very roughly). |  |
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| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:22 - Nov 10 | SitfcB |
You’ve been had, that’s a fake news tweet from someone pretending to be a journo from the Athletic. |  |
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| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:30 - Nov 10 | SE1blue |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:10 - Nov 10 by giant_stow |
I think i read some interview with Southgate the other day where he said words to the effect of I don't miss football, don't watch football and am glad to be out of it. (very roughly). |
Yup, read that too, it was a fascinating article.
Said that he no longer has the drive or desire to manage. He mentioned how at the end of managing England that the highs of winning would only last a couple of seconds and then he’d be unfazed by it all. He was persuaded to stay on by the FA but had really wanted to quit before his last tournament.
He said he’s getting far more enjoyment learning about different skills/interests in life now. It won’t be him at Old Trafford. |  |
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| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:31 - Nov 10 | ITFC_Essex |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:06 - Nov 10 by davblue |
They remind me of us pre takeover, so many similarities. Apart from us not spending too much money of course. |
I don't recall us being steadily in the top flight, winning the FA Cup twice, two League Cups, Europa League and qualifying for the Champions League pre-takeover. | |
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| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:36 - Nov 10 | barcelonablue2 |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:09 - Nov 10 by homer_123 |
Money talks.
And at this point, actually it's a no lose situ for managers. No one, even fans, expect any incoming manager to turn it around - so it's almost a free hit.
Do well and you've performed a miracle and your stock goes through the roof.
Fail and you aren't tarnished anywhere near like you would normally be.
Plus a nice earner either way. |
said on another post before but i think even the money now is actually lacking enough to talk.
100% Poch has been chosen over Howe and Nagelsman due to a refusal from United to guarantee wages and transfer kitties both would've demanded.
Three games coming back are Anfield, Sporting away and then Brentford at OT. 3 losses and BBC to be calling for his head by December? [Post edited 10 Nov 11:37]
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| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:43 - Nov 10 | J2BLUE |
I am still not convinced Carrick gets sacked this early. I posted that a couple of weeks ago and was told it was definite he would be sacked imminently. This time they will probably be right, BUT, it still makes little sense to me.
If you bring a manager in now their first two games are Liverpool and Sporting away. If Carrick is sacked the heat goes nuclear on Wilcox etc.
I could see Carrick being sacked on 20th Dec after the Arsenal game. New manager comes in, has two winnable home games followed by a transfer window.
Any top manager would be mad to take that job before late Dec IMO. |  | | |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:57 - Nov 10 | barcelonablue2 |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:43 - Nov 10 by J2BLUE |
I am still not convinced Carrick gets sacked this early. I posted that a couple of weeks ago and was told it was definite he would be sacked imminently. This time they will probably be right, BUT, it still makes little sense to me.
If you bring a manager in now their first two games are Liverpool and Sporting away. If Carrick is sacked the heat goes nuclear on Wilcox etc.
I could see Carrick being sacked on 20th Dec after the Arsenal game. New manager comes in, has two winnable home games followed by a transfer window.
Any top manager would be mad to take that job before late Dec IMO. |
Agree but damned if you do and damned if you don't
Ultimately, don't think it will come down to what is best for the manager but what is best for the directors and owners.
The longer Carrick is there not winning, and they don't pull the trigger, the more the view switches on them.
If you bring in a manager now, they've had a break to get settled in and some time to know the squad before the window opens. Even if whomever doesn't win a single game before the window, if they win after it with new players it will be smiles all around. | | | |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 12:17 - Nov 10 | davblue |
| Southgate toi Man U ? on 11:31 - Nov 10 by ITFC_Essex |
I don't recall us being steadily in the top flight, winning the FA Cup twice, two League Cups, Europa League and qualifying for the Champions League pre-takeover. |
If you want to literally look at that as the basis of the argument, fine there’s no comparison.
We are talking about Man United not Ipswich Town but you are looking for an argument so I’ll leave it at that as I can’t be bothered with you. | | | |
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