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Yep, which is why it’s very strange for OP to try and score points over it given he was a Labour activist while he was doing this stuff!
I think the OP is trying to make the point that the grifters that youre turning out to bat for here are of a similar ilk with their moral compasses. Lest we forget, allegations were made previously, that resulted in a hideously binding injunction for the woman concerned. https://taxpolicy.org.uk/2026/
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
I think the OP is trying to make the point that the grifters that youre turning out to bat for here are of a similar ilk with their moral compasses. Lest we forget, allegations were made previously, that resulted in a hideously binding injunction for the woman concerned. https://taxpolicy.org.uk/2026/
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I am not turning out to bat for anyone, just pointing out OP’s hypocrisy. Wouldn’t pss on Farage if he was on fire
The fact of the matter is that many on the left and right do not come out well when it comes to cosying up to Brand.
He was loved by many on the left (and I did find him amusing) with his actions and behaviour ignored. And after 2018 when he wasn’t really on UK telly, he found a living cosying up to the MAGA, vaccine deniers and conspiracy nut jobs. With his predator type behaviour also being excused or ignored.
Despite many people pointing fingers at others, a lot of people both left and right will have some difficult questions to answer.
Interesting that on 10:09 - Nov 13 by MattinLondon
The fact of the matter is that many on the left and right do not come out well when it comes to cosying up to Brand.
He was loved by many on the left (and I did find him amusing) with his actions and behaviour ignored. And after 2018 when he wasn’t really on UK telly, he found a living cosying up to the MAGA, vaccine deniers and conspiracy nut jobs. With his predator type behaviour also being excused or ignored.
Despite many people pointing fingers at others, a lot of people both left and right will have some difficult questions to answer.
Indeed. This is the most balanced view on this topic. Brand was a charmer and very adept at re-inventing himself to appeal to different groups. I don't think it's relevant to say either the right or the left supported him. He conned both sides. But to be fair, the people shouting "foul play" currently about his conviction seem to be mostly the MAGA nuts he attracted the last few years.
Indeed. This is the most balanced view on this topic. Brand was a charmer and very adept at re-inventing himself to appeal to different groups. I don't think it's relevant to say either the right or the left supported him. He conned both sides. But to be fair, the people shouting "foul play" currently about his conviction seem to be mostly the MAGA nuts he attracted the last few years.
Absolutely- I do think that many forget that predators like Brand are expert at reinvention, can be charming and know who to strike and who not to strike at.
Many friends who thought that they knew him well would’ve had no idea what he was simply because Brand I was expert at manipulation and moving across platforms when it suited him.
Interesting that on 10:38 - Nov 13 by MattinLondon
Absolutely- I do think that many forget that predators like Brand are expert at reinvention, can be charming and know who to strike and who not to strike at.
Many friends who thought that they knew him well would’ve had no idea what he was simply because Brand I was expert at manipulation and moving across platforms when it suited him.
That's the nature of these people. Narcissistic and manipulative. Personally, I never liked Brand. Always thought there was something creepy about him and was not at all surprised when the allegations about him began to surface. But then I don't like most people!
That's the nature of these people. Narcissistic and manipulative. Personally, I never liked Brand. Always thought there was something creepy about him and was not at all surprised when the allegations about him began to surface. But then I don't like most people!
I never found him creepy - lecherous yes to a certain degree but just thought that was part of his ‘act’. Never occurred to me that he would actually turn out to be an actual rapist.
Ah well as long as it was only covered up for 20 years by the likes of Owen Jones, that’s fine then
There are a lot of people who have been taken in by a very obvious charlatan over the years and many of those, of all political persuasions, could have done a lot more before his crimes became public knowledge.
Those people who have rushed to declare support for Brand after the TV documentary and especially after the conviction are worth highlighting.
Interesting that on 11:02 - Nov 13 by MattinLondon
I never found him creepy - lecherous yes to a certain degree but just thought that was part of his ‘act’. Never occurred to me that he would actually turn out to be an actual rapist.
Sort of the same really. I’m uncomfortable knowing what we know now to admit that I was quite a fan of his during his Radio 2 days. A lot of his schtick back then seemed to be an updated version of Carry On films, kind of knowingly smutty in a very English way. And he could be genuinely funny. But he was just a nasty human being, beneath all that. Been here so many times, haven’t we, but when will things properly change? So depressing that women still seem to be the subject of so much violence and being taken advantage of, both in the “normal” population and in the world of celebrity.
The same cohort of people that have frightening rates of charges, convictions and being reported to the Police for various acts of violence against women.
I am not turning out to bat for anyone, just pointing out OP’s hypocrisy. Wouldn’t pss on Farage if he was on fire
Where is the hypocrisy in the OP?
Just a statement of fact at this point in time, without any comment one way or the other on actions of the left at a previous point in time.
Quite interesting to see this "but the left" narrative keep getting trotted out about Brand, when it is the right that have been his huge cheerleaders since the truth has been very clear about him.
Undoubtedly a lot on the left will be reflecting on their involvement with or endorsement of him 15+ years ago, but all are pretty clear in their position now.
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I was born underwater, I dried out in the sun.
I started humping volcanoes baby, when I was too young.
Interesting that on 10:09 - Nov 13 by MattinLondon
The fact of the matter is that many on the left and right do not come out well when it comes to cosying up to Brand.
He was loved by many on the left (and I did find him amusing) with his actions and behaviour ignored. And after 2018 when he wasn’t really on UK telly, he found a living cosying up to the MAGA, vaccine deniers and conspiracy nut jobs. With his predator type behaviour also being excused or ignored.
Despite many people pointing fingers at others, a lot of people both left and right will have some difficult questions to answer.
I think it's fair to say the establishment in general turned a blind eye again until circa 2018
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