| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be 22:19 - Jan 30 with 2539 views | ElderGrizzly |
Fox go with this and no retraction:
This is the real suspect:
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 22:27 - Jan 30 with 2476 views | EastTownBlue |
Meanwhile in the UK ...
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 22:29 - Jan 30 with 2440 views | J2BLUE |
To not retract that really is amazing. |  |
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 22:32 - Jan 30 with 2421 views | WeWereZombies |
Just letting the earlier Brass Eye thread leak into this one to bump it back up, but actually from 'The Day Today': Because fact into doubt won't go! |  |
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 22:32 - Jan 30 with 2415 views | ElderGrizzly |
| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 22:27 - Jan 30 by EastTownBlue |
Meanwhile in the UK ...
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Depressing and so dangerous.
And they wonder why so many 'support' immigration restrictions. Some will only read/see the original and that is mind made up | | | |
| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 22:45 - Jan 30 with 2348 views | unstableblue |
That Fox News piece is awful.
His spokesman has infuriated the Canadian press by stating (incorrectly like Fox News):
“It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant, and why the president is taking steps to be proactive, rather than reactive,” said White House press secretary Sean Spicer on Monday. [Post edited 30 Jan 2017 22:51]
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 22:51 - Jan 30 with 2315 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Latest news.... Trump to ban Canadians from entering U.S.(we're making it white/great again)of A. |  |
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 22:57 - Jan 30 with 2264 views | caught-in-limbo |
"Up to three masked gunmen" now becomes just one. A Moroccan and then a white American. The truth is we don't know who did it. Any news agency which points out the irregularities in the story is labelled "fake" if it deviates from the agreed narrative. Both versions are most probably false. Some people will believe it's more Islamic terror, other's will say it's white supremacy - they'll believe what they want. It divides the population and actually both versions contradict early witness statements (which is usually what happens).
People have little faith in their leaders, not because Putin has single-handedly undermined our faith in our glorious democracy, but because proper investigative journalism is dead and the real crooks are no longer held to account by the media (if indeed they ever were). [Post edited 30 Jan 2017 22:58]
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 22:57 - Jan 30 with 2257 views | WeWereZombies |
| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 22:51 - Jan 30 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Latest news.... Trump to ban Canadians from entering U.S.(we're making it white/great again)of A. |
Actually a curious facet of the Muslim travel band is that Canadians with dual nationality are exempted from it, not sure if that message makes it all the way down to the border staff but that what the US have told Canada. And Trudeau is still prepared to condemn Trrump's policy. Perhaps May should have an appreciative look at the performance of her Commonwealth colleague. | |
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 23:03 - Jan 30 with 2210 views | factual_blue |
| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 22:45 - Jan 30 by unstableblue |
That Fox News piece is awful.
His spokesman has infuriated the Canadian press by stating (incorrectly like Fox News):
“It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant, and why the president is taking steps to be proactive, rather than reactive,” said White House press secretary Sean Spicer on Monday. [Post edited 30 Jan 2017 22:51]
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All Fox News is awful.
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 23:10 - Jan 30 with 2178 views | ElderGrizzly |
| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 22:57 - Jan 30 by caught-in-limbo |
"Up to three masked gunmen" now becomes just one. A Moroccan and then a white American. The truth is we don't know who did it. Any news agency which points out the irregularities in the story is labelled "fake" if it deviates from the agreed narrative. Both versions are most probably false. Some people will believe it's more Islamic terror, other's will say it's white supremacy - they'll believe what they want. It divides the population and actually both versions contradict early witness statements (which is usually what happens).
People have little faith in their leaders, not because Putin has single-handedly undermined our faith in our glorious democracy, but because proper investigative journalism is dead and the real crooks are no longer held to account by the media (if indeed they ever were). [Post edited 30 Jan 2017 22:58]
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A lot of it is nothing more than the race to be first with the 'news' right now.
That of course is dangerous in itself, but that is where we now are. Retract after the initial flurry of publicity. Whether Fox, CNN, RT, AlJazeera. They all do it
Really not sure why you have to hijack and patronise almost any thread with Putin, but hey i'd be disappointed if you didn't ;)
Putin loves us anyway 😬
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 23:12 - Jan 30 with 2147 views | BackToRussia |
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 23:18 - Jan 30 with 2122 views | caught-in-limbo |
| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 23:10 - Jan 30 by ElderGrizzly |
A lot of it is nothing more than the race to be first with the 'news' right now.
That of course is dangerous in itself, but that is where we now are. Retract after the initial flurry of publicity. Whether Fox, CNN, RT, AlJazeera. They all do it
Really not sure why you have to hijack and patronise almost any thread with Putin, but hey i'd be disappointed if you didn't ;)
Putin loves us anyway 😬
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You're claiming something to be fake news when actually you don't know what the real course of events were. I'm saying that the "official story" almost invariably goes against witness statements which the mainstream never follow up, preferring instead to parrot what is decided at a later date, most probably to save their jobs.
No hijacking, just very much on topic, but with a different view to yours.
PS: Nice Edit from you there. You complain at my mention of Putin (though he's not the focus of my comment), you call it hijacking, and then you post a picture of him. Very odd. [Post edited 30 Jan 2017 23:22]
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 23:32 - Jan 30 with 2065 views | ElderGrizzly |
| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 23:18 - Jan 30 by caught-in-limbo |
You're claiming something to be fake news when actually you don't know what the real course of events were. I'm saying that the "official story" almost invariably goes against witness statements which the mainstream never follow up, preferring instead to parrot what is decided at a later date, most probably to save their jobs.
No hijacking, just very much on topic, but with a different view to yours.
PS: Nice Edit from you there. You complain at my mention of Putin (though he's not the focus of my comment), you call it hijacking, and then you post a picture of him. Very odd. [Post edited 30 Jan 2017 23:22]
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We know as much as each other i'd say, just you always start from all media is wrong. A team has been working on this incident over the weekend actually, so have read quite a bit on it to see if any links/threats outside Canada.
The top story has been categorically denied by Canadian Police. I'd say that makes it wrong?
I mentioned your Russia link to gently poke fun and edited as i remembered i'd seen a link today with the Queen and other despot leaders so thought it was fun. Sorry teacher :(
Goodnight. I've had a stressful day :( [Post edited 30 Jan 2017 23:33]
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 23:45 - Jan 30 with 2025 views | Swansea_Blue |
| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 22:57 - Jan 30 by caught-in-limbo |
"Up to three masked gunmen" now becomes just one. A Moroccan and then a white American. The truth is we don't know who did it. Any news agency which points out the irregularities in the story is labelled "fake" if it deviates from the agreed narrative. Both versions are most probably false. Some people will believe it's more Islamic terror, other's will say it's white supremacy - they'll believe what they want. It divides the population and actually both versions contradict early witness statements (which is usually what happens).
People have little faith in their leaders, not because Putin has single-handedly undermined our faith in our glorious democracy, but because proper investigative journalism is dead and the real crooks are no longer held to account by the media (if indeed they ever were). [Post edited 30 Jan 2017 22:58]
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The real crooks ARE the media. Or at least accomplices. |  |
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 23:45 - Jan 30 with 2023 views | caught-in-limbo |
| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 23:32 - Jan 30 by ElderGrizzly |
We know as much as each other i'd say, just you always start from all media is wrong. A team has been working on this incident over the weekend actually, so have read quite a bit on it to see if any links/threats outside Canada.
The top story has been categorically denied by Canadian Police. I'd say that makes it wrong?
I mentioned your Russia link to gently poke fun and edited as i remembered i'd seen a link today with the Queen and other despot leaders so thought it was fun. Sorry teacher :(
Goodnight. I've had a stressful day :( [Post edited 30 Jan 2017 23:33]
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I start with a position that all media could be right or wrong.
I'm curious as to why early witness statements nearly always differ from the "official story". I don't know why witnesses so often "invent" the presence of multiple gunmen if that is not true. I accept they could be mistaken in the panic of the moment but it happens all too often.
I'm curious as to why gunmen so often leave passports on the scene, yet often still decide to run away.
I'm curious as to why white supremacists normally get away and but then later get detained, but Islamists nearly always get shot dead by the police, when information about their networks would be of utmost importance to the authorities.
Finally, when I accept that the media is telling the truth, I don't usually feel the need to come on here and say so. | |
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 23:46 - Jan 30 with 2021 views | caught-in-limbo |
| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 23:45 - Jan 30 by Swansea_Blue |
The real crooks ARE the media. Or at least accomplices. |
Which is precisely the point I'm making. | |
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 23:52 - Jan 30 with 1996 views | bournemouthblue |
| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 22:27 - Jan 30 by EastTownBlue |
Meanwhile in the UK ...
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This why the cries of wolf on this from the media are ironic
Perhaps the same scrutiny should be applied to all News Sources, some sort of regulator perhaps?
Our media simply isn't free, in many the narrative is controlled by the right, even the BBC has been assimilated by right wing decision makers |  |
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 00:00 - Jan 31 with 1959 views | Swansea_Blue |
| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 23:46 - Jan 30 by caught-in-limbo |
Which is precisely the point I'm making. |
But for different reasons. My experience is that they are too time pressed to do a good job, whereas you think it's part of a master plot. Having seen how the mainstream press have misrepresented stuff I've been involved in, I don't think they have the capacity or governance structure in place to be able to consistently spin the truth according to a higher command. I'm involking Occam's razor on this. | |
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 00:12 - Jan 31 with 1909 views | jeera |
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 00:23 - Jan 31 with 1864 views | caught-in-limbo |
| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 00:00 - Jan 31 by Swansea_Blue |
But for different reasons. My experience is that they are too time pressed to do a good job, whereas you think it's part of a master plot. Having seen how the mainstream press have misrepresented stuff I've been involved in, I don't think they have the capacity or governance structure in place to be able to consistently spin the truth according to a higher command. I'm involking Occam's razor on this. |
I love the way you tell me what I believe.
My experience is actually very similar to yours. I think I have been misrepresented on 95% of the times I have been featured in or commented to the Press. In every single instance it was neither malicious not part of a big plot. It is normally down to lack of resources, to meet a deadline or simply to make a story more exciting.
That said, I have never been involved in an act of terrorism. It's a different situation then. Terrorism shapes government policy, military/police budgets and is used to instil fear. In these cases the stakes are much higher, and those who plan these events or spin them the way the want are not going to allow a curious hack to derail the narrative.
I'm invoking "if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck" on this. | |
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| An example of Fake News and how dangerous it can be on 04:20 - Jan 31 with 1742 views | Johnny_Boy |
Weren't you the weekly apologist for M.E.?
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