| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. 08:14 - Dec 31 with 12955 views | Benters2 |
Have been told 'spending money doesnt work' now im seeing that a few are using the finacial side,as a excuse to losing to the better teams,so if they purchased a better class of player,spending money does work!
Happy New Year.
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:23 - Dec 31 with 6520 views | itfcjoe |
Spending money works, it may not work every team as it is easy to siend money badly.
It’s hard to over perform on a small budget, doing so consistently is incredibly difficult - both us and Brentford have managed it over the last few years but it’s got us nowhere and there’s seems a more sustainable model, mainly due to the fact that Mick is why we have over performed and he is unpopular whereas Brentfird have a structure in place across the club.
Football is a meritocracy, the better players cost more and earn more, if they can get a manager in that can build a good spirit and find a way of playing then stopping them is hard - Derby seem to have that in Rowett |  |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:31 - Dec 31 with 6493 views | Benters2 |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:23 - Dec 31 by itfcjoe |
Spending money works, it may not work every team as it is easy to siend money badly.
It’s hard to over perform on a small budget, doing so consistently is incredibly difficult - both us and Brentford have managed it over the last few years but it’s got us nowhere and there’s seems a more sustainable model, mainly due to the fact that Mick is why we have over performed and he is unpopular whereas Brentfird have a structure in place across the club.
Football is a meritocracy, the better players cost more and earn more, if they can get a manager in that can build a good spirit and find a way of playing then stopping them is hard - Derby seem to have that in Rowett |
Cheers for the reply Joe. | | | |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:31 - Dec 31 with 6489 views | Ftnfwest |
Well I’m still here. Let’s just say spending CAN work |  | | |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:36 - Dec 31 with 6471 views | Benters2 |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:31 - Dec 31 by Ftnfwest |
Well I’m still here. Let’s just say spending CAN work |
Bless you. Indeed it can. | | | |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:45 - Dec 31 with 6443 views | christiand |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:23 - Dec 31 by itfcjoe |
Spending money works, it may not work every team as it is easy to siend money badly.
It’s hard to over perform on a small budget, doing so consistently is incredibly difficult - both us and Brentford have managed it over the last few years but it’s got us nowhere and there’s seems a more sustainable model, mainly due to the fact that Mick is why we have over performed and he is unpopular whereas Brentfird have a structure in place across the club.
Football is a meritocracy, the better players cost more and earn more, if they can get a manager in that can build a good spirit and find a way of playing then stopping them is hard - Derby seem to have that in Rowett |
At least Brentford do it with a bit of style and panache on the pitch. Their style of football is light years ahead of ours, but I’m told by many on here you can’t expect to play decent football if you don’t invest heavily, hence the continued long ball nonsense and mediocrity at PR that we are are expected to accept. Brentford are a progressive football club functioning in the modern era, they are prepared to embrace change, we simply don’t and plod along like we did 10 years ago. | |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:48 - Dec 31 with 6423 views | textbackup |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:23 - Dec 31 by itfcjoe |
Spending money works, it may not work every team as it is easy to siend money badly.
It’s hard to over perform on a small budget, doing so consistently is incredibly difficult - both us and Brentford have managed it over the last few years but it’s got us nowhere and there’s seems a more sustainable model, mainly due to the fact that Mick is why we have over performed and he is unpopular whereas Brentfird have a structure in place across the club.
Football is a meritocracy, the better players cost more and earn more, if they can get a manager in that can build a good spirit and find a way of playing then stopping them is hard - Derby seem to have that in Rowett |
Brentford came up from league 1 and are arguably a better football club than us now, can’t really put us both in the same bracket IMO |  |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:51 - Dec 31 with 6416 views | ITFC_Forever |
There are no guarantees, but it gives you a better chance.
ITFC are not going anywhere under the current model. ME and Mick both to blame. |  |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:55 - Dec 31 with 6397 views | itfcjoe |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:48 - Dec 31 by textbackup |
Brentford came up from league 1 and are arguably a better football club than us now, can’t really put us both in the same bracket IMO |
Better football club? They shut down their academy last year - imagine the outrage if Evans did that here! Smaller fan base etc but admittedly better quality football.
1 point ahead of us in the league this year, and like us have over performed for a few years in a smaller budget in this leagur - thibkbthey are our most obvious comparison | |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:01 - Dec 31 with 6376 views | Herbivore |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:55 - Dec 31 by itfcjoe |
Better football club? They shut down their academy last year - imagine the outrage if Evans did that here! Smaller fan base etc but admittedly better quality football.
1 point ahead of us in the league this year, and like us have over performed for a few years in a smaller budget in this leagur - thibkbthey are our most obvious comparison |
But they still spend more than us on fees and wages every year I believe.
In respect of the OP, people said that spending doesn't guarantee success, which it doesn't. That's rather different from saying that spending money doesn't work. |  |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:13 - Dec 31 with 6344 views | textbackup |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:55 - Dec 31 by itfcjoe |
Better football club? They shut down their academy last year - imagine the outrage if Evans did that here! Smaller fan base etc but admittedly better quality football.
1 point ahead of us in the league this year, and like us have over performed for a few years in a smaller budget in this leagur - thibkbthey are our most obvious comparison |
But they’ve always been lower leagues is what I mean, sad that we are now on par with a team that 10 years ago we wouldn’t have played frequently. They are on the up, we’re on a down. | |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:19 - Dec 31 with 6318 views | itfcjoe |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:13 - Dec 31 by textbackup |
But they’ve always been lower leagues is what I mean, sad that we are now on par with a team that 10 years ago we wouldn’t have played frequently. They are on the up, we’re on a down. |
It’s probably more fun for their fans as the Championship is still new to them and it’s the highest they’ve ever been - whereas for ours we’ve never been any lower.
The sad thing for me is you seen teams like Swansea and Bournemouth who are miles ahead of us, and only way we’ll get back on par with them is if they screw up - we won’t catch them, they’ll just fall to us.
Not sure where we go from here, a change of Manager is easiest solution - but would be surprised if it actually improves us | |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:20 - Dec 31 with 6312 views | Herbivore |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:13 - Dec 31 by textbackup |
But they’ve always been lower leagues is what I mean, sad that we are now on par with a team that 10 years ago we wouldn’t have played frequently. They are on the up, we’re on a down. |
We're not on a down, we're on a level. We've been a mid table Championship side for a decade with only one season in the play offs in that time. Brentford also look like they've stabilised into a mid table Championship side now. | |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:20 - Dec 31 with 6315 views | Guthrum |
If you're going to spend money, it has to be in very large sums - tens, or even hundreds of millions. As Derby, Wolves et al have done. Not even the most profligate enthusiast was suggesting Ipswich are in a position to do that.
Plus it needs to be well managed - something Derby has previously struggled with.
In any case, honours are even with County this season, three points apiece. |  |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:21 - Dec 31 with 6310 views | noggin |
Money is the evil that has ruined the enjoyment of the game for me. Always a Town fan but I don't even want us to be in the Premier League. Liverpool's recent 75 million purchase just proves how sickening it all is. People who would love to go to the football are queuing at foodbanks ffs. Happy New Year. [Post edited 31 Dec 2017 9:24]
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:31 - Dec 31 with 6267 views | textbackup |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:20 - Dec 31 by Herbivore |
We're not on a down, we're on a level. We've been a mid table Championship side for a decade with only one season in the play offs in that time. Brentford also look like they've stabilised into a mid table Championship side now. |
Being a mid champ team (for me) isn’t level, I’d like to think we’d are better than that, and not happy to just accept it | |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:33 - Dec 31 with 6255 views | Herbivore |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:31 - Dec 31 by textbackup |
Being a mid champ team (for me) isn’t level, I’d like to think we’d are better than that, and not happy to just accept it |
Every side wants to be doing better, based on the last decade of performance we're performing at around our level currently. | |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:41 - Dec 31 with 6226 views | textbackup |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:33 - Dec 31 by Herbivore |
Every side wants to be doing better, based on the last decade of performance we're performing at around our level currently. |
Which in football terms is pretty depressing | |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:43 - Dec 31 with 6215 views | Pinewoodblue |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:31 - Dec 31 by textbackup |
Being a mid champ team (for me) isn’t level, I’d like to think we’d are better than that, and not happy to just accept it |
Think a lot more fans would accept we are a mid championship club if we had a manager who would look to giving a little back to the fans. A manager who acknowledged the magic of a cup run and took cup competitions seriously. |  |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:48 - Dec 31 with 6200 views | Herbivore |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:41 - Dec 31 by textbackup |
Which in football terms is pretty depressing |
There are at least 50 sides in the Football League who'd be happy with being an established Championship side. I guess it's all about perspective. For me the main thing is enjoying it rather than having expectations about where we ought to be and this season I've been enjoying it, even yesterday. We showed character in that second half against a far superior side. | |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:50 - Dec 31 with 6191 views | RegencyBlue |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:20 - Dec 31 by Herbivore |
We're not on a down, we're on a level. We've been a mid table Championship side for a decade with only one season in the play offs in that time. Brentford also look like they've stabilised into a mid table Championship side now. |
We are not on a level at all.
From a business perspective we are in long term decline. Look at the excellent blog on the home page detailing Evans ten years of ownership to see how badly the club has been run off the pitch, never mind on it. |  | | |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:53 - Dec 31 with 6171 views | Herbivore |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:50 - Dec 31 by RegencyBlue |
We are not on a level at all.
From a business perspective we are in long term decline. Look at the excellent blog on the home page detailing Evans ten years of ownership to see how badly the club has been run off the pitch, never mind on it. |
I'm not all that interested in the club as a business. Playing wise we've been a mid table second tier side for over 10 years and that remains the case, it's not a decline it's just very boring. | |
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:55 - Dec 31 with 6165 views | Johnny_Boy |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:20 - Dec 31 by Guthrum |
If you're going to spend money, it has to be in very large sums - tens, or even hundreds of millions. As Derby, Wolves et al have done. Not even the most profligate enthusiast was suggesting Ipswich are in a position to do that.
Plus it needs to be well managed - something Derby has previously struggled with.
In any case, honours are even with County this season, three points apiece. |
Dearest Guthers (poster of the year), if you have a spare moment in your busy schedule today, are you able to have a quicky look-see to find some reputable transfer sites, which have the summer spending stats of PNE. Most places I've seen just fob you off with 'Undisclosed'. Whilst another site suggested they'd spent £1.4m - whilst the very same website proclaimed we'd spent £3.5m!?
I know they got a GK in. They also purchased a few kids from Cork City, so I can't imagine it was a huge amount.
I'm just intrigued to find out. I'm more than happy to be proved wrong. [Post edited 31 Dec 2017 10:02]
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| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 10:00 - Dec 31 with 6147 views | braveblue |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 08:23 - Dec 31 by itfcjoe |
Spending money works, it may not work every team as it is easy to siend money badly.
It’s hard to over perform on a small budget, doing so consistently is incredibly difficult - both us and Brentford have managed it over the last few years but it’s got us nowhere and there’s seems a more sustainable model, mainly due to the fact that Mick is why we have over performed and he is unpopular whereas Brentfird have a structure in place across the club.
Football is a meritocracy, the better players cost more and earn more, if they can get a manager in that can build a good spirit and find a way of playing then stopping them is hard - Derby seem to have that in Rowett |
In what way are we over performing? Worst league position in 58 years last season. Incredible goals to shots ratio brought us points this season but we are swiftly moving down the league. Players out of position every week. Why did Smith not come on for Webster? Why did McDonnnell not come on rather than Didz trying to play central midfield? If he was going to rest Celina why not let him threaten QPR rather than defend against Derby?
We should have returned to the 5 3 2 that worked earlier in the season to swamp midfield. But no, MM simply sticks to the same plan every week with the odd change to counter the opposition. | | | |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 10:11 - Dec 31 with 6109 views | RegencyBlue |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 09:53 - Dec 31 by Herbivore |
I'm not all that interested in the club as a business. Playing wise we've been a mid table second tier side for over 10 years and that remains the case, it's not a decline it's just very boring. |
Well you probably should be because ultimately the business side of ITFC influences what happens on the pitch.
If less money was required to cover the trading losses each year there could be more investment in the squad. | | | |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 10:15 - Dec 31 with 6088 views | Herbivore |
| For many years me and my dearly departed friends. on 10:11 - Dec 31 by RegencyBlue |
Well you probably should be because ultimately the business side of ITFC influences what happens on the pitch.
If less money was required to cover the trading losses each year there could be more investment in the squad. |
We've reduced costs as a club, I'm not sure how we're likely to be able to generate more revenue to invest in the squad, certainly to any great deal. Every side at this level is running at a loss unless they sell a player for big money. | |
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