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This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 17:14 - Jun 9 by imsureazzure
And it just proves that sweeping generalisations are useless and rabble rousing.
As I've said before, I resist using the word racist as it can often be counter productive. However, this does not mean that people who clearly fit this terms should not be branded with it. If you look at Mr Robinson's previous actions, it is quite clear that he is a racist, and if people are supporting him on the basis that he has broken the law, but it's apparently ok because the victim was a Muslim, then that makes their actions Islamophobic too.
This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 17:35 - Jun 9 by tractordownsouth
As I've said before, I resist using the word racist as it can often be counter productive. However, this does not mean that people who clearly fit this terms should not be branded with it. If you look at Mr Robinson's previous actions, it is quite clear that he is a racist, and if people are supporting him on the basis that he has broken the law, but it's apparently ok because the victim was a Muslim, then that makes their actions Islamophobic too.
As I have said before, the rise of the EDL, UKIP, previously the BNP and to a large extent the Brexit vote, is down to Labour Liberal and Tories ignoring the Pakistani/Bangladeshi rape gangs. If it had of been dealt with in the early reported stages and dealt with soundly and robustly then those organisations above may have not existed in the scale they are now.
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This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 17:51 - Jun 9 with 6016 views
This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 17:49 - Jun 9 by imsureazzure
As I have said before, the rise of the EDL, UKIP, previously the BNP and to a large extent the Brexit vote, is down to Labour Liberal and Tories ignoring the Pakistani/Bangladeshi rape gangs. If it had of been dealt with in the early reported stages and dealt with soundly and robustly then those organisations above may have not existed in the scale they are now.
Oh they would. They'd have found some other excuse to hang their bigotry off of. The EDl et al were every active, and indeed, had bigger numbers at demo turnouts pre-Rotherham.
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 17:35 - Jun 9 by tractordownsouth
As I've said before, I resist using the word racist as it can often be counter productive. However, this does not mean that people who clearly fit this terms should not be branded with it. If you look at Mr Robinson's previous actions, it is quite clear that he is a racist, and if people are supporting him on the basis that he has broken the law, but it's apparently ok because the victim was a Muslim, then that makes their actions Islamophobic too.
Spot on. I know many don't agree but i'm all for giving people a platform to express their views but those people either don't understand the law or think it shouldn't apply because the targets were Muslim.
I think we should get a prominent 'free Tommy Robinson' type on a political show and let them hang themselves. Too often this idea is dismissed by people saying they don't deserve a platform but only by confronting them directly in a civilised way can their message be dismantled. Hopefully no one responds that his supporters are too thick to get the point because that is part of the problem IMO. Get one of these idiots on Sunday Politics and relentlessly show them up.
This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 17:59 - Jun 9 by J2BLUE
Spot on. I know many don't agree but i'm all for giving people a platform to express their views but those people either don't understand the law or think it shouldn't apply because the targets were Muslim.
I think we should get a prominent 'free Tommy Robinson' type on a political show and let them hang themselves. Too often this idea is dismissed by people saying they don't deserve a platform but only by confronting them directly in a civilised way can their message be dismantled. Hopefully no one responds that his supporters are too thick to get the point because that is part of the problem IMO. Get one of these idiots on Sunday Politics and relentlessly show them up.
Trouble is, wit these people you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Any halfway competent interviewer/debatee demolishing one of these divs immediately gets written off as a 'stooge of the lefty media' who's picking on Poor Tommy by means of actually asking him questions rather than merely letting him spout b0llocks. I'm all for making them look like pr1cks though.
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 17:59 - Jun 9 by J2BLUE
Spot on. I know many don't agree but i'm all for giving people a platform to express their views but those people either don't understand the law or think it shouldn't apply because the targets were Muslim.
I think we should get a prominent 'free Tommy Robinson' type on a political show and let them hang themselves. Too often this idea is dismissed by people saying they don't deserve a platform but only by confronting them directly in a civilised way can their message be dismantled. Hopefully no one responds that his supporters are too thick to get the point because that is part of the problem IMO. Get one of these idiots on Sunday Politics and relentlessly show them up.
Farage is on most shows. He is close enough
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This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 18:10 - Jun 9 with 5970 views
He's basically saying he shouldn't have done it because he was under s suspended sentence but still trying to complain that someone's had their 'right' to disrupt legal proceedings curtailed on account of it being criminal activity.
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 18:03 - Jun 9 by BlueBadger
Trouble is, wit these people you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Any halfway competent interviewer/debatee demolishing one of these divs immediately gets written off as a 'stooge of the lefty media' who's picking on Poor Tommy by means of actually asking him questions rather than merely letting him spout b0llocks. I'm all for making them look like pr1cks though.
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In fairness, I think people who interview him need to do a better job of it. For example there was a clip of a question time type show with Tommy on it, and they kept branding him as a racist and a bigot, without giving any examples. That's even worse than ignoring him imo, because had I not known about the man's previous actions I would probably have gone away thinking that he had been hard done by, which allows him to gain more support.
He's very clever with his bigotry, he rarely says anything directly racist but his response to the Grenfell tower highlighted it by the fact that he cared more about the country of the victims' birth rather than the victims themselves. Additionally, he only cites the parts of extreme Islam which no one can fault him on - everyone thinks that child marriage and grooming gangs are bad, and it's a shame that his supporters assume that anyone who doesn't follow Robinson must be a lefty paedophile sympathiser. If we get people to hold him to account and properly go to town on his actions and how he seems to be concerned about rape only when it suits his agenda, then people will see his true colours. Until then, his victim complex will only help him gain more sympathy.
This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 17:49 - Jun 9 by imsureazzure
As I have said before, the rise of the EDL, UKIP, previously the BNP and to a large extent the Brexit vote, is down to Labour Liberal and Tories ignoring the Pakistani/Bangladeshi rape gangs. If it had of been dealt with in the early reported stages and dealt with soundly and robustly then those organisations above may have not existed in the scale they are now.
Whilst not wishing to play down that issue in anyway, you're talking b0llocks.
That's a few tens to a dozen men in a country of tens of millions, that simply doesn't make sense. It's just the excuse that's convenient at the moment. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon had no interest in them until recently, for starters.
Only last week, during those defending SYL it was "Islamists" and vague notions about terrorism and the like that was being trotted out. So frankly, I don't think rape gangs even registered for these lot until Yaxley-Lennon got himself pinched and they became an easy cause to champion and pretend they owned.
As for your Antifa comment, completely the wrong set of people I think given the term used to describe American groups and the types who swell the ranks of UAF etc.
This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 18:30 - Jun 9 by jeera
Does it not occur to people that these types are always generally, well, a type.
The type will usually be poorly educated, that does not make them racist in itself, it makes them easily led, the type that used to vote labour in to power.
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This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 18:34 - Jun 9 with 5883 views
This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 18:32 - Jun 9 by Mullet
Whilst not wishing to play down that issue in anyway, you're talking b0llocks.
That's a few tens to a dozen men in a country of tens of millions, that simply doesn't make sense. It's just the excuse that's convenient at the moment. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon had no interest in them until recently, for starters.
Only last week, during those defending SYL it was "Islamists" and vague notions about terrorism and the like that was being trotted out. So frankly, I don't think rape gangs even registered for these lot until Yaxley-Lennon got himself pinched and they became an easy cause to champion and pretend they owned.
As for your Antifa comment, completely the wrong set of people I think given the term used to describe American groups and the types who swell the ranks of UAF etc.
Thanks, the debate was open, then along comes 'the Saturday poo' boy to get a hard on.
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This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 18:36 - Jun 9 with 5874 views
This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 17:51 - Jun 9 by BlueBadger
Oh they would. They'd have found some other excuse to hang their bigotry off of. The EDl et al were every active, and indeed, had bigger numbers at demo turnouts pre-Rotherham.
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Agreed. Rotherham certainly helped with mainstream expansion of their racist views - but they were there and in not insignificant numbers already.
They don't seem to be particularly worried about the half million other women who are raped or suffer serious sexual assults every year (latest figures just released a few days ago - not a peep from them about that though).
So yep, just an excuse to justify vile views and behaviour.
This should make it easy for the police to round up the Islamophobes and racists on 18:34 - Jun 9 by imsureazzure
Thanks, the debate was open, then along comes 'the Saturday poo' boy to get a hard on.
Yet, you're straight in with ignoring the debate to have a pop, having just had talk of a swerve up there.....it's almost like you know it.
Given we were being told there was a massive cover up, how can you now say over a decade of essentially grassroots fascism and nationalism was caused by the latest scandal/issue?
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