| There has been a vote of No confidence.... 19:33 - Jan 16 with 3396 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
.....and its no confidence in Corbyn.
Corbyn must be so embarrassed, the Conservatives are seen as one of the worst administrations of all time...
....and Corbyn didnt get close to winning the general election, and MP's still see May as a better option.
Jeremy... hang your head in shame. One of the worst performing party leaders of all time.
This country needs a strong opposition.
Time for a leadership change in Labour?! |  |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:35 - Jan 16 with 2928 views | DanTheMan |
Is it really that shocking that Conservatives and the DUP prefer Theresa May over Corbyn? |  |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:36 - Jan 16 with 2924 views | LankHenners |
He lost his previous 'actual' vote of no confidence and stayed on so he'll probably do the same again. |  |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:37 - Jan 16 with 2907 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:35 - Jan 16 by DanTheMan |
Is it really that shocking that Conservatives and the DUP prefer Theresa May over Corbyn? |
If there was a viable, strong, charismatic opposition leader, perhaps he could have swayed the DUP and won. | |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:38 - Jan 16 with 2897 views | BloomBlue |
He called on May to resign after losing the vote last night I'm sure the honourable man will follow his own advice |  | | |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:39 - Jan 16 with 2882 views | Guthrum |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:37 - Jan 16 by Marshalls_Mullet |
If there was a viable, strong, charismatic opposition leader, perhaps he could have swayed the DUP and won. |
Hardly. As things stand, the DUP have far more leverage than they could possibly dream of in almost any other scenario. Preventing a GE is their utmost aim. |  |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:42 - Jan 16 with 2878 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:39 - Jan 16 by Guthrum |
Hardly. As things stand, the DUP have far more leverage than they could possibly dream of in almost any other scenario. Preventing a GE is their utmost aim. |
Really does make Corbyns perfromance at the last GE look even worse now (if possible).
Corbyn is to labour what Paul Hurst was to Ipswich. ;-) | |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:53 - Jan 16 with 2827 views | Guthrum |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:42 - Jan 16 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Really does make Corbyns perfromance at the last GE look even worse now (if possible).
Corbyn is to labour what Paul Hurst was to Ipswich. ;-) |
A dreadful campaign by the Conservatives and he still couldn't get it over the line.
However, much of that is not Corbyn's fault, but Milliband's. Labour's walking back on the "Solemn Pledge" for Scottish Devo Max (in the face of it being linked by the Tories with English Votes For English Laws) created a sense of betrayal leading to the loss of a large and vital tranche of seats north of the border.
Ever since, it has required an almighty swing in their favour for Labour to stand any hope of winning a GE, on pure mathematics. They need to take way beyond just marginal seats from the Conservatives to gain a HoC majority in their own right. | |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:54 - Jan 16 with 2818 views | Clapham_Junction |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:37 - Jan 16 by Marshalls_Mullet |
If there was a viable, strong, charismatic opposition leader, perhaps he could have swayed the DUP and won. |
Given the DUP's place on the political spectrum, it seems unlikely that Labour would ever be able to persuade them that they would be a better government than the Tories. |  | | |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:55 - Jan 16 with 2801 views | jjblue84 |
He’s never made a speech like Gove did has he...just reads it off the page like a supply teacher!!  |  | | |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:58 - Jan 16 with 2777 views | Guthrum |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:38 - Jan 16 by BloomBlue |
He called on May to resign after losing the vote last night I'm sure the honourable man will follow his own advice |
Doesn't work like that. Last night was a defeat for the government on a major item of policy. Tonight was a victory over a routine challenge. | |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:58 - Jan 16 with 2774 views | JakeITFC |
Do you think Labour would have won this no confidence vote with a different leader?
Seems fairly obvious that they wouldn’t. |  | | |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:02 - Jan 16 with 2751 views | footers |
Most pundits weren't predicting anything like this result so it's a vote against May. No one predicted Labour winning the vote tonight and now you're declaring it a massive shambles? |  |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:05 - Jan 16 with 2721 views | Guthrum |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:02 - Jan 16 by footers |
Most pundits weren't predicting anything like this result so it's a vote against May. No one predicted Labour winning the vote tonight and now you're declaring it a massive shambles? |
Those were pretty much exactly the numbers
everyone was expecting. Con + DUP versus The Rest. | |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:09 - Jan 16 with 2710 views | GlasgowBlue |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:54 - Jan 16 by Clapham_Junction |
Given the DUP's place on the political spectrum, it seems unlikely that Labour would ever be able to persuade them that they would be a better government than the Tories. |
The Ulster Unionists have a history of propping up minority Labour governments. They are a "working class" party.
Both Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband attempted to enter talks with the DUP before seeing that then numbers were still not there to form a broad coalition.
The stumbling block is Corbyn and his historical links to the IRA. |  |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:09 - Jan 16 with 2704 views | footers |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:05 - Jan 16 by Guthrum |
Those were pretty much exactly the numbers
everyone was expecting. Con + DUP versus The Rest. |
Didn't see real numbers projected but thought 'very unlikely' would mean far greater than 19 votes. | |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:13 - Jan 16 with 2677 views | GlasgowBlue |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:09 - Jan 16 by footers |
Didn't see real numbers projected but thought 'very unlikely' would mean far greater than 19 votes. |
Nope. Every pundit predicted a government majority of 13 (Tory+DUP). | |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:28 - Jan 16 with 2595 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:02 - Jan 16 by footers |
Most pundits weren't predicting anything like this result so it's a vote against May. No one predicted Labour winning the vote tonight and now you're declaring it a massive shambles? |
Corbyn is a massive shambles. An embarrassment to his party. | |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:35 - Jan 16 with 2547 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:53 - Jan 16 by Guthrum |
A dreadful campaign by the Conservatives and he still couldn't get it over the line.
However, much of that is not Corbyn's fault, but Milliband's. Labour's walking back on the "Solemn Pledge" for Scottish Devo Max (in the face of it being linked by the Tories with English Votes For English Laws) created a sense of betrayal leading to the loss of a large and vital tranche of seats north of the border.
Ever since, it has required an almighty swing in their favour for Labour to stand any hope of winning a GE, on pure mathematics. They need to take way beyond just marginal seats from the Conservatives to gain a HoC majority in their own right. |
The Labour party should have convinced David Miliband to be their leader when they had the chance. They would have been in power for 3 years now.
Terrible, terrible strategists. | |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:37 - Jan 16 with 2529 views | homer_123 |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:37 - Jan 16 by Marshalls_Mullet |
If there was a viable, strong, charismatic opposition leader, perhaps he could have swayed the DUP and won. |
I'd be happy with a lesder and a party that could get sh*t done.
Sod charismatic. |  |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:42 - Jan 16 with 2501 views | BlueForYou |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:55 - Jan 16 by jjblue84 |
He’s never made a speech like Gove did has he...just reads it off the page like a supply teacher!! |
Anyone who didn’t see the Gove speech (& that of Tom Watson), really should view a replay. Gripping stuff & a reminder of Parliamentary drama like it used to be. Must say I never thought Gove had that in him, real leadership material. |  | | |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:58 - Jan 16 with 2457 views | BlueBadger |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:09 - Jan 16 by GlasgowBlue |
The Ulster Unionists have a history of propping up minority Labour governments. They are a "working class" party.
Both Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband attempted to enter talks with the DUP before seeing that then numbers were still not there to form a broad coalition.
The stumbling block is Corbyn and his historical links to the IRA. |
Essentially, his terrorists don't get on with their terrorists. |  |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 21:31 - Jan 16 with 2376 views | jjblue84 |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 20:42 - Jan 16 by BlueForYou |
Anyone who didn’t see the Gove speech (& that of Tom Watson), really should view a replay. Gripping stuff & a reminder of Parliamentary drama like it used to be. Must say I never thought Gove had that in him, real leadership material. |
Yep, what a play for next PM the crafty buggger! | | | |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 21:50 - Jan 16 with 2318 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 19:42 - Jan 16 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Really does make Corbyns perfromance at the last GE look even worse now (if possible).
Corbyn is to labour what Paul Hurst was to Ipswich. ;-) |
Memories are short.
That GE was called by May with the support of her party in order to secure the landslide that would allow her to push through her version of Brexit.
To see Corbyn taking that to a minority Government as a failure is a rewriting of history.
Whilst I disagree with his stance on Brexit I cannot see what he could have done in the current situation. We are stuck with May clinging to power and forcing through whatever she can get her party and the DUP to vaguely unite behind. |  |
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 21:51 - Jan 16 with 2312 views | ElderGrizzly |
Barry Gardiner said this morning that Labour will call another vote of no confidence next week. Looks like that plan has just got harder
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| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 21:58 - Jan 16 with 2281 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| There has been a vote of No confidence.... on 21:51 - Jan 16 by ElderGrizzly |
Barry Gardiner said this morning that Labour will call another vote of no confidence next week. Looks like that plan has just got harder
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It seems a pointless exercise. (Sturgeon has said she and her party will continue to support the motions as they have no confidence in May, though.)
Even if one was won (which it won't be unless massive changes), the Government would have 2 weeks to regain the confidence of its own party and the DUP.
We are stuck with May dictating the terms. Whatever bills are brought won't be amended because there is no consensus for any one position in parliament (save, perhaps to rule out no deal). Ultimately that means whatever she ends up with as her deal will be what we get (whether that leads to re-ignition of "the troubles", riots from the right wing or whatever else it might be). | |
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