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It's a dangerous job like any other I guess. They aren't alone in choosing a profession where your life is at serious risk. I can only assume that they have made their peace with that.
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Saw a friend post about this earlier...he's been a biker since a youngster with it running in his family and them going to TT most years. I'm actually presently doing my Direct Access to ride and got to go out on a 600cc at the weekend and 70mph felt mental...can't imagine doing the speeds they do at the TT!!!
It's a dangerous job like any other I guess. They aren't alone in choosing a profession where your life is at serious risk. I can only assume that they have made their peace with that.
Saw a friend post about this earlier...he's been a biker since a youngster with it running in his family and them going to TT most years. I'm actually presently doing my Direct Access to ride and got to go out on a 600cc at the weekend and 70mph felt mental...can't imagine doing the speeds they do at the TT!!!
I remember my first ever ride, 45mph or so was scary! I struggled to keep up with the instructor
They don't even get paid for killing themselves? Must be doing it for the love of it then.
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Not sure that’s true? They had a day called mad Sunday where anyone can go and ride the course - and whilst some will open up this is nowhere near the speeds travelled by the racers. For the racers themselves riders are experienced racers and generally semi professional at least I think (some no doubt work normal jobs but to be expected given the limited income available from biking)?
You may be confused with the Manx GP
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Not sure that’s true? They had a day called mad Sunday where anyone can go and ride the course - and whilst some will open up this is nowhere near the speeds travelled by the racers. For the racers themselves riders are experienced racers and generally semi professional at least I think (some no doubt work normal jobs but to be expected given the limited income available from biking)?
You may be confused with the Manx GP
Hmm..while I am no expert on bike racing, I reckon most of the IoM TT racers are the equivalent of semi pro or low end professionals for whom the thrill of riding a bike at 100mph+ around a dangerous circuit is almost as important as what they might earn.
Hmm..while I am no expert on bike racing, I reckon most of the IoM TT racers are the equivalent of semi pro or low end professionals for whom the thrill of riding a bike at 100mph+ around a dangerous circuit is almost as important as what they might earn.
Would agree with that - but that would be the case with any bike competitions outside of the main MotoGP and Superbike championships I assume, and competitors in those will have started out for the thrill too
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Hmm..while I am no expert on bike racing, I reckon most of the IoM TT racers are the equivalent of semi pro or low end professionals for whom the thrill of riding a bike at 100mph+ around a dangerous circuit is almost as important as what they might earn.
Should this really continue to be allowed?
Think of the impact on medical services, medical staff, and even onlookers who witness horrific accidents and fatal injuries.
We have rules about wearing seatbelts and helmets to protect people from their own instincts not to take safety precautions, but we allow this. Difficult to logically justify.
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I was thinking the same about all the mountaineers who died on the Himalayas in the past couple of weeks - 8 in the recent avalanche, & several more on Everest.
Their choice. I do feel for their families though.
I remember my first ever ride, 45mph or so was scary! I struggled to keep up with the instructor
Friend of my ex's took me on a spin round some narrow Cornish country lanes on his Bucati while we were still on honeymoon - terrifying and thrilling in equal measure - can't have been doing more than about 50-60, but on those blind bends it felt like 100 - I remember thinking "this marriage could be over very quickly indeed ..."!!
Coming from a family who have had many motorbikes over the years(my brother now has a couple of vintage motorbikes) my love was scrambling (not eggs J2) If its in you to want to do that kind of thing the buzz you get is worth the risk.
Even now when i go out on my vintage racing push bike the thrill of going down hill at over 30mph is ace.
Think of the impact on medical services, medical staff, and even onlookers who witness horrific accidents and fatal injuries.
We have rules about wearing seatbelts and helmets to protect people from their own instincts not to take safety precautions, but we allow this. Difficult to logically justify.
If people want to race then that is up to them, you can’t keep banning everything, where would we stop, no horse riding, no sky diving, no diving, no boxing tj list goes on. We all take risk in lives and should be responsible for our own outcomes. Although I think it is selfish to ride there if they have a family, as the chances are quite high.
Biking is fun, like nothing I've ever done. We all know the risks (x40 more likely to die than car drivers) and we all make our own decisions of where/when and how we ride.
TT races are an opportunity to see professionals up close. Many of the fatalities often occur on the middle Sunday when the mountain road is one way, and is open to all viditors with no speed limits. It is essentially like a track day but on public roads. They are putting no one at risk other than themsleves.
I would argue that track days (and the TT) allow bikers to 'get it out of their system' and to then ride much more sedately, in control, safely when they encounter you all on your Sunday bimbles.
Many is the time I've said to over enthusiastic (speeding) bikers to 'save it for the track'. I'd argue that banning such opportunities would increase, not decrease fatalities.
I was thinking the same about all the mountaineers who died on the Himalayas in the past couple of weeks - 8 in the recent avalanche, & several more on Everest.
Their choice. I do feel for their families though.
Yet no one is suggesting banning mountaineering...
Saw a friend post about this earlier...he's been a biker since a youngster with it running in his family and them going to TT most years. I'm actually presently doing my Direct Access to ride and got to go out on a 600cc at the weekend and 70mph felt mental...can't imagine doing the speeds they do at the TT!!!
Give it a couple of years then go for advanced training would be my advice. Suffolk advanced motorcyclists are Ipswich based and a very respected group.
Pm if you want more details, any advice. Good luck and ride safe.
Think of the impact on medical services, medical staff, and even onlookers who witness horrific accidents and fatal injuries.
We have rules about wearing seatbelts and helmets to protect people from their own instincts not to take safety precautions, but we allow this. Difficult to logically justify.
Extending your argument and you would ban (limit) all bikes and cars to 70 mph. You would (in a few years) ban driving and have driverless cars doing it all for you.
The logic, is that there's more to life than logic.
Think of the impact on medical services, medical staff, and even onlookers who witness horrific accidents and fatal injuries.
We have rules about wearing seatbelts and helmets to protect people from their own instincts not to take safety precautions, but we allow this. Difficult to logically justify.
I used to supply Nobles Hospital (IOM Hospital) with nursing staff all year round. It would get to a month before the TT races started and they would ask for an extra 10 A&E nurses and 10 ICU Nurses. Happy days for me, but seriously ridiculous that it's allowed to happen with the amount of deaths over the years.
TT, Mountaineering etc. etc. isn't the simple question 'Why do humans like to take risks'?
At least the TT riders are mainly putting themselves and other riders in danger - mountaineering puts many others in danger.
Why do we take risks? Cos we judge the benefits outweigh the risk. Or none of us would ever get on a airplane, sit in a car etc.
Need and/or inquisitiveness too. We'd probably still be living in caves if someone hadn't wondered what it was like over that hill, across that river, over that sea...
Exploring, trying new things, new experiences, enjoying yourself, pushing yourself, all parts of human nature.
TT, Mountaineering etc. etc. isn't the simple question 'Why do humans like to take risks'?
At least the TT riders are mainly putting themselves and other riders in danger - mountaineering puts many others in danger.
'Why do humans like to take risks'? All down to different mindsets I think. I couldn't imagine a life without taking risk / taking yourself out your comfort zone, admittedly some folk take bigger risks than others though...such as Alex Honnold. King of Free Soloing (climbing).
'Why do humans like to take risks'? All down to different mindsets I think. I couldn't imagine a life without taking risk / taking yourself out your comfort zone, admittedly some folk take bigger risks than others though...such as Alex Honnold. King of Free Soloing (climbing).
Spot on. Some people love to climb, some love to ride, some play guitair or read poetry to strangers in the pub.
I used to supply Nobles Hospital (IOM Hospital) with nursing staff all year round. It would get to a month before the TT races started and they would ask for an extra 10 A&E nurses and 10 ICU Nurses. Happy days for me, but seriously ridiculous that it's allowed to happen with the amount of deaths over the years.
Out of interest how was that paid for? Was going to make the point to Bully that the IOM itself does very well out of the TT in terms of tourism, which I expect far exceeds the additional medical costs - but not sure if that’s really relevant or not though
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