Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists 09:17 - Dec 13 with 880 views | vapour_trail | Good. | |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 09:26 - Dec 13 with 873 views | GeoffSentence | I think we are seeing the final days of the UK. By 2030 both Northern Ireland and Scotland will have gone their own way. | |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 09:27 - Dec 13 with 869 views | J2BLUE |
Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 09:26 - Dec 13 by GeoffSentence | I think we are seeing the final days of the UK. By 2030 both Northern Ireland and Scotland will have gone their own way. |
And the Welsh will be enslaved to provide a UBI for the English? | |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 09:27 - Dec 13 with 867 views | chicoazul |
Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 09:26 - Dec 13 by GeoffSentence | I think we are seeing the final days of the UK. By 2030 both Northern Ireland and Scotland will have gone their own way. |
This is one of the most interesting things about this election. Also dont forget there is scope for a referendum in the Good Friday Surrender agreement, hidden away in the text. I myself look forward to the re institution of the Kingdom of England and House Plantagenet. | |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 22:36 - Dec 13 with 833 views | vapour_trail |
Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 09:27 - Dec 13 by chicoazul | This is one of the most interesting things about this election. Also dont forget there is scope for a referendum in the Good Friday Surrender agreement, hidden away in the text. I myself look forward to the re institution of the Kingdom of England and House Plantagenet. |
jesus, this is what complete ignorance looks like. | |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 01:36 - Dec 14 with 787 views | The_Last_Baron |
Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 09:27 - Dec 13 by chicoazul | This is one of the most interesting things about this election. Also dont forget there is scope for a referendum in the Good Friday Surrender agreement, hidden away in the text. I myself look forward to the re institution of the Kingdom of England and House Plantagenet. |
The Unionist vote was still significantly more that the Nationalist/Republican vote. One seat was won by Sinn Fein by 57 votes. Brexit was a significant factor in the election in NI with many unionists voting Alliance who did very well. Alliance are the centre ground, very pro EU, liberal party in NI. I'd guess that 70% of their vote comes from unionists, the vast majority of who would vote to remain in the UK in a referendum. By 2030 I'd wager that both Scotland and NI will still be in the UK. A border poll will not be called in NI as firstly there is little chance of it going the way of the Republicans and secondly it would create such division that the threat of violence from the losing side would be too great. NI is not Scotland remember, nobody lost their life over the union question north of the border. | |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 01:45 - Dec 14 with 780 views | vapour_trail |
Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 01:36 - Dec 14 by The_Last_Baron | The Unionist vote was still significantly more that the Nationalist/Republican vote. One seat was won by Sinn Fein by 57 votes. Brexit was a significant factor in the election in NI with many unionists voting Alliance who did very well. Alliance are the centre ground, very pro EU, liberal party in NI. I'd guess that 70% of their vote comes from unionists, the vast majority of who would vote to remain in the UK in a referendum. By 2030 I'd wager that both Scotland and NI will still be in the UK. A border poll will not be called in NI as firstly there is little chance of it going the way of the Republicans and secondly it would create such division that the threat of violence from the losing side would be too great. NI is not Scotland remember, nobody lost their life over the union question north of the border. |
Predominantly good analysis, TLB. I’d say though, brexit will undoubtedly accelerate the inevitable shift towards nationalism in Ireland. I suspect the world will feel a very different place by your 2030 milestone.ireland should be a lot closer to reunification by that point. | |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 01:56 - Dec 14 with 763 views | monytowbray | I’d be careful. You might get called an IRA sympathiser with that post. | |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 04:23 - Dec 14 with 717 views | eireblue |
Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 01:45 - Dec 14 by vapour_trail | Predominantly good analysis, TLB. I’d say though, brexit will undoubtedly accelerate the inevitable shift towards nationalism in Ireland. I suspect the world will feel a very different place by your 2030 milestone.ireland should be a lot closer to reunification by that point. |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 07:15 - Dec 14 with 660 views | sparks | Why is that good? What makes one group of people with a national identity better than another? | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 08:43 - Dec 14 with 633 views | monytowbray |
Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 07:15 - Dec 14 by sparks | Why is that good? What makes one group of people with a national identity better than another? |
History. You’re on the cusp of those people who ask why we don’t have white history month or straight pride day with that post. [Post edited 14 Dec 2019 8:44]
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 08:49 - Dec 14 with 617 views | sparks |
Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 08:43 - Dec 14 by monytowbray | History. You’re on the cusp of those people who ask why we don’t have white history month or straight pride day with that post. [Post edited 14 Dec 2019 8:44]
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What utter nonsense that is. Why is one batch of people preferable to the other. You haven't answered that, you have just rolled out a pathetic insult to cover your ignorance and absence of an answer. | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 08:53 - Dec 14 with 612 views | monytowbray |
Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 08:49 - Dec 14 by sparks | What utter nonsense that is. Why is one batch of people preferable to the other. You haven't answered that, you have just rolled out a pathetic insult to cover your ignorance and absence of an answer. |
You’ve continually shown for years a very one sided view in the struggles of Ireland. But hey, I’m the ignorant one! | |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 08:54 - Dec 14 with 610 views | tractordownsouth |
Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 09:27 - Dec 13 by chicoazul | This is one of the most interesting things about this election. Also dont forget there is scope for a referendum in the Good Friday Surrender agreement, hidden away in the text. I myself look forward to the re institution of the Kingdom of England and House Plantagenet. |
Na there won't be. The Tories have shown that they can offer whatever the hell they want in referendums, and won't offer people the chance to change their minds whenever what they offered turns out to be a pack of lies. Except when the keep calling elections because they didn't like the result of the previous one. | |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 08:55 - Dec 14 with 609 views | sparks |
Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 08:53 - Dec 14 by monytowbray | You’ve continually shown for years a very one sided view in the struggles of Ireland. But hey, I’m the ignorant one! |
Once again- no answer but a classic ad hominem instead. You really are one of the most dishonest, slippery and unpleasant characters on this board. Your willingness to insult and question decent people's integrity, time after time, on the flimsiest of premises- which you won't even been pinned down upon the specifics of, is frankly despicable. | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 09:00 - Dec 14 with 604 views | monytowbray |
Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 08:55 - Dec 14 by sparks | Once again- no answer but a classic ad hominem instead. You really are one of the most dishonest, slippery and unpleasant characters on this board. Your willingness to insult and question decent people's integrity, time after time, on the flimsiest of premises- which you won't even been pinned down upon the specifics of, is frankly despicable. |
As I said, log out. You’re really not painting yourself in a good light this morning. I’ve told you before, perhaps you should go visit some Catholic estates in Ireland and talk to people there about what they’ve experienced in the last 40 years to get some perspective. You could even do a test and call them IRA sympathisers, as the term you love to throw around seeing as you’ll find a lot of memorials to the hunger strikers in those areas, and see how that goes down for you. | |
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Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 09:11 - Dec 14 with 590 views | gordon |
Northern Ireland: nationalists > unionists on 01:45 - Dec 14 by vapour_trail | Predominantly good analysis, TLB. I’d say though, brexit will undoubtedly accelerate the inevitable shift towards nationalism in Ireland. I suspect the world will feel a very different place by your 2030 milestone.ireland should be a lot closer to reunification by that point. |
Yes - polls now are only indicative of how people in Northern Ireland might feel in 5-10 years after a Brexit deal. | | | |
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