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Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? 23:22 - Jul 26 with 1747 viewsElderGrizzly



I like it (well some of it). Squad of 19 supplemented with U22s would stop the hoarding of players.
Clubs would moan unless it was Europe wide though as you would artifically constrain their ability to compete with the big continental clubs
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Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 07:20 - Jul 27 with 1621 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Based on ages at the start of the season, the top 4 used the following number of players above the age of 22 in the PL this season:

Liverpool - 19
Man City - 19
Man U - 17
Chelsea - 17

It would make no difference whatsoever
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Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 07:41 - Jul 27 with 1573 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Not sure about some of his facts...

...football is profitable? Maybe in the top leagues, but certainly not in the league's outside the top divisions.

Clubs assets have risen 60%? That's just transfer value inflation, and means you also outlay 60% more on purchases, not a significant indicator of financial health.

Lawyers will always find a way around the measures that are meant to bring parity.

I do however like any idea that stops the hoarding of players.

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Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 08:36 - Jul 27 with 1498 viewsgiant_stow

Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 07:20 - Jul 27 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

Based on ages at the start of the season, the top 4 used the following number of players above the age of 22 in the PL this season:

Liverpool - 19
Man City - 19
Man U - 17
Chelsea - 17

It would make no difference whatsoever
[Post edited 27 Jul 2020 9:38]


Sounds like a cracking idea to me. Maybe your numbers suggest it should be a lower limit of 14/15? The hoarding of players would become pointless so that would help even things up regardless or where the limit was set.

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Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 08:39 - Jul 27 with 1495 viewsDennyx4

I like the idea in principle, however think it could do the opposite, you would have the big clubs hoarding any under 22's they could get that are decent, because they don't count towards the quota.
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Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 08:41 - Jul 27 with 1491 viewsitfcjoe

I think something like that is required, it allows the talent to filter down also, and makes managers makje tough decisions when a developmental player turns 22.....do we keep him and lose an older guy?

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Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 09:01 - Jul 27 with 1437 viewsSwansea_Blue

Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 07:41 - Jul 27 by Marshalls_Mullet

Not sure about some of his facts...

...football is profitable? Maybe in the top leagues, but certainly not in the league's outside the top divisions.

Clubs assets have risen 60%? That's just transfer value inflation, and means you also outlay 60% more on purchases, not a significant indicator of financial health.

Lawyers will always find a way around the measures that are meant to bring parity.

I do however like any idea that stops the hoarding of players.


Over half the teams in the PL for the last year of available accounts (18-19) were making losses.

Yeah, it's a bit of a myth that the PL is the land of milk and honey. Yes the income is obscene but as you say costs rise. And substantially when it comes to things like wages and fees.
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Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 09:25 - Jul 27 with 1396 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 08:36 - Jul 27 by giant_stow

Sounds like a cracking idea to me. Maybe your numbers suggest it should be a lower limit of 14/15? The hoarding of players would become pointless so that would help even things up regardless or where the limit was set.


Big clubs don’t really hoard players at that age though - most of those played a decent number of games and those that didn’t are players the clubs want rid of anyway so would just leave them out of their squads

The hoarding tends to be younger players which would still happen under the proposal - in fact it would arguably become worse if clubs were forced to marginally trim their squads

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Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 09:33 - Jul 27 with 1367 viewsPinewoodblue

Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 08:41 - Jul 27 by itfcjoe

I think something like that is required, it allows the talent to filter down also, and makes managers makje tough decisions when a developmental player turns 22.....do we keep him and lose an older guy?


Wage cap will do the same thing at lower levels.

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Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 10:34 - Jul 27 with 1287 viewsrickw

Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 07:20 - Jul 27 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

Based on ages at the start of the season, the top 4 used the following number of players above the age of 22 in the PL this season:

Liverpool - 19
Man City - 19
Man U - 17
Chelsea - 17

It would make no difference whatsoever
[Post edited 27 Jul 2020 9:38]


It would work if they weren't allowed to loan them out either, so their only allowed to give contracts to 19 players aged 22+

This would force clubs into making a decision on their promising youngsters earlier - do they give them a squad place or sell, take Liverpool it's just Harry Wilson and Sheyi Ojo they would have decisions to make on, Karius, Grujić and Nathaniel Phillips I imagine would get sold.

Also several big clubs have a veteran 3rd choice keeper on their books, that would end

You won't get scenario's like Garbutt where he's 27 and his club has only now decided he's not good enough

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Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 11:16 - Jul 27 with 1267 viewsRadlett_blue

Would squads of 19 solve the disparity in the Premier League? on 10:34 - Jul 27 by rickw

It would work if they weren't allowed to loan them out either, so their only allowed to give contracts to 19 players aged 22+

This would force clubs into making a decision on their promising youngsters earlier - do they give them a squad place or sell, take Liverpool it's just Harry Wilson and Sheyi Ojo they would have decisions to make on, Karius, Grujić and Nathaniel Phillips I imagine would get sold.

Also several big clubs have a veteran 3rd choice keeper on their books, that would end

You won't get scenario's like Garbutt where he's 27 and his club has only now decided he's not good enough


Banning all loans would be far and away the simplest solution. Clearly, clubs would be far more reluctant to hoard players.

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