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El Miz 11:36 - Sep 10 with 1646 viewsWallingford_Boy

This may have been discussed already, but despite a lot of injured players out for the first couple of games, El Miz has not even made the bench.

With Dobra not available on Tuesday, I assumed he'd be nailed on for at least a spot amongst the subs, but nope.

Seems Lambert's/Taylor's harsh words to him and some of the others were more than just a kick up the bum in his case.

Or is he injured and I am reading too much into it?

Thought he looked good pre-season and this might be his season, but maybe not.

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El Miz on 11:37 - Sep 10 with 1627 viewsPinewoodblue

Wasn’t he also away on international duty?

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El Miz on 11:41 - Sep 10 with 1601 viewsITFC_96

This is why the club needs a clear out of players who have underperformed (especially the older ones). All it's doing is stifling the development and confidence of the younger promising players while providing little benefits.
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El Miz on 11:43 - Sep 10 with 1576 viewsIpswichKnight

El Miz on 11:37 - Sep 10 by Pinewoodblue

Wasn’t he also away on international duty?


No didn't see that Tunisia had a game, think he's probably being eased back after getting that nasty knee injury just before the season was cancelled. Hopefully he won't be to far away from a subs place as he can defiantly offer us a lot.
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El Miz on 11:47 - Sep 10 with 1551 viewsTheTrueBlue1878

El Miz on 11:37 - Sep 10 by Pinewoodblue

Wasn’t he also away on international duty?


No just Dobra.

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El Miz on 12:00 - Sep 10 with 1507 viewsTerry_Nutkins

El Miz on 11:41 - Sep 10 by ITFC_96

This is why the club needs a clear out of players who have underperformed (especially the older ones). All it's doing is stifling the development and confidence of the younger promising players while providing little benefits.


They don't get a free pass though. He has to get in the team on merit. Sears has come back firing, Judge to his credit looks much more like the player we thought we were getting and Dozzell, Bishop and Downes are all well ahead. Nolan was much more like for like for Downes. To be honest he's really competing more with Bishop, Huws, Lankaster, Judge, Edwards and Sears. Frankly I'm not getting rid of any of them just to make his life easier.

I thought El Miz would make the bench and get mins this season still think he will. But he has to earn it. Same for Dobra. There will be injuries. Get in, play well and earn the shirt.

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El Miz on 12:11 - Sep 10 with 1464 viewsITFC_96

El Miz on 12:00 - Sep 10 by Terry_Nutkins

They don't get a free pass though. He has to get in the team on merit. Sears has come back firing, Judge to his credit looks much more like the player we thought we were getting and Dozzell, Bishop and Downes are all well ahead. Nolan was much more like for like for Downes. To be honest he's really competing more with Bishop, Huws, Lankaster, Judge, Edwards and Sears. Frankly I'm not getting rid of any of them just to make his life easier.

I thought El Miz would make the bench and get mins this season still think he will. But he has to earn it. Same for Dobra. There will be injuries. Get in, play well and earn the shirt.


Obviously they don't get a free pass, but the whole fiasco with the photograph and "earning" their place is ridiculous. They have impressed more often than not when being played, especially compared to the usual cohort.
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El Miz on 13:03 - Sep 10 with 1289 viewsgordon

El Miz on 12:00 - Sep 10 by Terry_Nutkins

They don't get a free pass though. He has to get in the team on merit. Sears has come back firing, Judge to his credit looks much more like the player we thought we were getting and Dozzell, Bishop and Downes are all well ahead. Nolan was much more like for like for Downes. To be honest he's really competing more with Bishop, Huws, Lankaster, Judge, Edwards and Sears. Frankly I'm not getting rid of any of them just to make his life easier.

I thought El Miz would make the bench and get mins this season still think he will. But he has to earn it. Same for Dobra. There will be injuries. Get in, play well and earn the shirt.


Nolan and Judge have basically had a free pass to the first team for two years though, haven't they?
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El Miz on 13:04 - Sep 10 with 1283 viewsBryanPlug

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El Miz on 13:49 - Sep 10 with 1222 viewsitfcjoe

I don't get it, he played v Col U and West Ham and looked good but can't get a look in - I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up going out on loan which will be a mistake

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El Miz on 14:35 - Sep 10 with 1125 viewsdavblue

El Miz on 13:49 - Sep 10 by itfcjoe

I don't get it, he played v Col U and West Ham and looked good but can't get a look in - I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up going out on loan which will be a mistake


I would rather we give him a go than persist with Nolan tbh. I've not seen enough of El Miz to know what type of player he is but we have to go with a bit more youth with some experience for the longer term.
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El Miz on 14:44 - Sep 10 with 1108 viewsIpswichKnight

El Miz on 13:49 - Sep 10 by itfcjoe

I don't get it, he played v Col U and West Ham and looked good but can't get a look in - I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up going out on loan which will be a mistake


Think Andy Warren said the same thing that he can see him going out on loan as well. I agree it would be a mistake as well.
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El Miz on 16:16 - Sep 10 with 1019 viewsPhilTWTD

El Miz on 13:49 - Sep 10 by itfcjoe

I don't get it, he played v Col U and West Ham and looked good but can't get a look in - I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up going out on loan which will be a mistake


I think that's been the plan for him, Dobra, McGavin as well as the others below them in the pecking order, Clements and Brown having already gone out. The problem is finding clubs in League Two in a position to be able to pay enough of their wages to make it worth our while sending them out.
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El Miz on 16:19 - Sep 10 with 1005 viewsCoco

El Miz on 16:16 - Sep 10 by PhilTWTD

I think that's been the plan for him, Dobra, McGavin as well as the others below them in the pecking order, Clements and Brown having already gone out. The problem is finding clubs in League Two in a position to be able to pay enough of their wages to make it worth our while sending them out.


Yes, I'm guessing that's the only option to get players out as Nolan, Judge, Donacien and Toto are now near impossible to shift.

Nolan is a dreadful waste of a first team place. Awful footballer.

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El Miz on 17:16 - Sep 10 with 918 viewsITFC_96

El Miz on 16:16 - Sep 10 by PhilTWTD

I think that's been the plan for him, Dobra, McGavin as well as the others below them in the pecking order, Clements and Brown having already gone out. The problem is finding clubs in League Two in a position to be able to pay enough of their wages to make it worth our while sending them out.


Also assuming that they actually want to go on loan, especially as they won't be guaranteed to play with the loan team.
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