| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. 09:13 - Nov 12 with 2374 views | MonkeyAlan |
To help prop up sandwich bars, coffee shops etc who arnt doing the trade they were. Good idea? Would our government follow suit if the German's did it? [Post edited 12 Nov 2020 9:19]
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:17 - Nov 12 with 1972 views | hype313 |
I was waiting for the WFH tax, will be here very soon... |  |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:23 - Nov 12 with 1949 views | itfcjoe |
I think it makes sense in many ways, ultimately those people WFH are generally going to be middle and higher income workers so will be the obvious target.
Put it this way, for those working from home, would you go back to the office if you had to pay a couple of % extra in tax by not doing so? |  |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:25 - Nov 12 with 1924 views | hype313 |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:23 - Nov 12 by itfcjoe |
I think it makes sense in many ways, ultimately those people WFH are generally going to be middle and higher income workers so will be the obvious target.
Put it this way, for those working from home, would you go back to the office if you had to pay a couple of % extra in tax by not doing so? |
I have been working from home long before Covid hit as my job is a home working role, wouldn't be overly happy if I got hit with a tax to pay for coffee shops that I never frequent. | |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:27 - Nov 12 with 1916 views | itfcjoe |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:25 - Nov 12 by hype313 |
I have been working from home long before Covid hit as my job is a home working role, wouldn't be overly happy if I got hit with a tax to pay for coffee shops that I never frequent. |
Think the proposal was for companies who make the job as WFH only without the facility to choose then they pick up the tax bill | |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:30 - Nov 12 with 1911 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
I think it isn't a terrible idea.
Certainly thinking WFH when I did saved me a pretty penny, purely on lunch/after work drinks/coffee runs etc, less ££ flowing through the economy in that respect certainly. |  |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:32 - Nov 12 with 1909 views | StokieBlue |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:23 - Nov 12 by itfcjoe |
I think it makes sense in many ways, ultimately those people WFH are generally going to be middle and higher income workers so will be the obvious target.
Put it this way, for those working from home, would you go back to the office if you had to pay a couple of % extra in tax by not doing so? |
I think a lot of people might be surprised around the middle of next year when they are expected to be in the office a lot more than they think. It was already starting to happen in October, the nudge emails and articles from the higher ups saying that WFH didn't produce as much innovation.
Those who have already fled the cities might get annoyed when they are expected back in at least 3 days a week. I do think WFH will be far more frequent and won't be looked on with suspicion by some as it was before but the idea of WFH for 4 days and in the office 1 day or 1 day every two weeks isn't going to be the reality in my opinion.
I guess we will see next year. I do hope that companies retain some of the flexibility they have learnt over the pandemic. It's good for everyone.
SB [Post edited 12 Nov 2020 10:06]
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:32 - Nov 12 with 1900 views | MonkeyAlan |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:27 - Nov 12 by itfcjoe |
Think the proposal was for companies who make the job as WFH only without the facility to choose then they pick up the tax bill |
It would get passed on to the individual in a round about way some how. | | | |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:36 - Nov 12 with 1887 views | longtimefan |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:25 - Nov 12 by hype313 |
I have been working from home long before Covid hit as my job is a home working role, wouldn't be overly happy if I got hit with a tax to pay for coffee shops that I never frequent. |
The report actually says th3 tax would have to be paid by employers, not individuals.
Edit: Missed Joe’s similar reply. [Post edited 12 Nov 2020 9:38]
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:37 - Nov 12 with 1883 views | MonkeyAlan |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:25 - Nov 12 by hype313 |
I have been working from home long before Covid hit as my job is a home working role, wouldn't be overly happy if I got hit with a tax to pay for coffee shops that I never frequent. |
There is also the argument, that you arnt using the roads, but still have to pay the same road tax. You arnt polluting the environment so much by not using a vehicle/public transport. Why should you be penalised for making a sandwich at home and not using a shop? I never used them anyway, so why be charged now for something you never used previously? | | | |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:39 - Nov 12 with 1876 views | MonkeyAlan |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:36 - Nov 12 by longtimefan |
The report actually says th3 tax would have to be paid by employers, not individuals.
Edit: Missed Joe’s similar reply. [Post edited 12 Nov 2020 9:38]
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It would get passed on in a round about way. | | | |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:39 - Nov 12 with 1875 views | longtimefan |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:32 - Nov 12 by StokieBlue |
I think a lot of people might be surprised around the middle of next year when they are expected to be in the office a lot more than they think. It was already starting to happen in October, the nudge emails and articles from the higher ups saying that WFH didn't produce as much innovation.
Those who have already fled the cities might get annoyed when they are expected back in at least 3 days a week. I do think WFH will be far more frequent and won't be looked on with suspicion by some as it was before but the idea of WFH for 4 days and in the office 1 day or 1 day every two weeks isn't going to be the reality in my opinion.
I guess we will see next year. I do hope that companies retain some of the flexibility they have learnt over the pandemic. It's good for everyone.
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Actually started in early October in my company. | | | |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:41 - Nov 12 with 1854 views | SaleAway |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:32 - Nov 12 by StokieBlue |
I think a lot of people might be surprised around the middle of next year when they are expected to be in the office a lot more than they think. It was already starting to happen in October, the nudge emails and articles from the higher ups saying that WFH didn't produce as much innovation.
Those who have already fled the cities might get annoyed when they are expected back in at least 3 days a week. I do think WFH will be far more frequent and won't be looked on with suspicion by some as it was before but the idea of WFH for 4 days and in the office 1 day or 1 day every two weeks isn't going to be the reality in my opinion.
I guess we will see next year. I do hope that companies retain some of the flexibility they have learnt over the pandemic. It's good for everyone.
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Already started in some places:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/nov/11/dyson-staff-express-concern-o
Mr Dyson in not giving a f*** about workers shocker... | |
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| The opposite actually.... on 09:42 - Nov 12 with 1843 views | Bloots |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:17 - Nov 12 by hype313 |
I was waiting for the WFH tax, will be here very soon... |
...you can claim tax relief for working from home.
I just got about £180 back. |  |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:42 - Nov 12 with 1836 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:32 - Nov 12 by StokieBlue |
I think a lot of people might be surprised around the middle of next year when they are expected to be in the office a lot more than they think. It was already starting to happen in October, the nudge emails and articles from the higher ups saying that WFH didn't produce as much innovation.
Those who have already fled the cities might get annoyed when they are expected back in at least 3 days a week. I do think WFH will be far more frequent and won't be looked on with suspicion by some as it was before but the idea of WFH for 4 days and in the office 1 day or 1 day every two weeks isn't going to be the reality in my opinion.
I guess we will see next year. I do hope that companies retain some of the flexibility they have learnt over the pandemic. It's good for everyone.
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....except for the ever increasing numbers of people unable to afford a first home in rural communities as wealthy Londoners flee. |  |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:45 - Nov 12 with 1814 views | StokieBlue |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:39 - Nov 12 by longtimefan |
Actually started in early October in my company. |
I meant October actually - well spotted.
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:46 - Nov 12 with 1812 views | StokieBlue |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:42 - Nov 12 by BanksterDebtSlave |
....except for the ever increasing numbers of people unable to afford a first home in rural communities as wealthy Londoners flee. |
Isn't that the opposite of what I just said? I don't think the exodus won't actually happen in any meaningful numbers.
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:53 - Nov 12 with 1784 views | davblue |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:46 - Nov 12 by StokieBlue |
Isn't that the opposite of what I just said? I don't think the exodus won't actually happen in any meaningful numbers.
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my dad just sold his place and they had a bidding war on their property from two London bods.
Accepted the 1st off around 25k under a few days later he had over asking price without trying to start a bidding war.
Only 1 instance but you can get to Marylebone from here in 37mins so it's not too much of a stretch time wise. |  | | |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:55 - Nov 12 with 1774 views | StokieBlue |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:53 - Nov 12 by davblue |
my dad just sold his place and they had a bidding war on their property from two London bods.
Accepted the 1st off around 25k under a few days later he had over asking price without trying to start a bidding war.
Only 1 instance but you can get to Marylebone from here in 37mins so it's not too much of a stretch time wise. |
That's already the commuter belt though. There were many stories of people moving out to places off the main lines thinking they could WFH virtually all the time in the future. That was more what I was referring to.
You can't get to other parts of London in 37 minutes!
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:06 - Nov 12 with 1757 views | Steve_M |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:32 - Nov 12 by StokieBlue |
I think a lot of people might be surprised around the middle of next year when they are expected to be in the office a lot more than they think. It was already starting to happen in October, the nudge emails and articles from the higher ups saying that WFH didn't produce as much innovation.
Those who have already fled the cities might get annoyed when they are expected back in at least 3 days a week. I do think WFH will be far more frequent and won't be looked on with suspicion by some as it was before but the idea of WFH for 4 days and in the office 1 day or 1 day every two weeks isn't going to be the reality in my opinion.
I guess we will see next year. I do hope that companies retain some of the flexibility they have learnt over the pandemic. It's good for everyone.
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Yes, definite signs from my employer that talk about taking a new flexible approach forward looks very much like the old model of being office based apart from odd days for specific reasons. That I think comes down to one senior manager who seems to be fervently in favour of office based work.
That will become a problem in the medium-term if employees see other options with greater flexibility I suspect. |  |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:07 - Nov 12 with 1748 views | woiii |
I'd be happy to pay £30-per-day to do away with the commute, £10-per-day to the HNS and £10 a day to the homeless. |  | | |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:08 - Nov 12 with 1738 views | StokieBlue |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:06 - Nov 12 by Steve_M |
Yes, definite signs from my employer that talk about taking a new flexible approach forward looks very much like the old model of being office based apart from odd days for specific reasons. That I think comes down to one senior manager who seems to be fervently in favour of office based work.
That will become a problem in the medium-term if employees see other options with greater flexibility I suspect. |
Hopefully a middle-ground will be found whereby people can WFH 1 or 2 days a week without having a special reason and then in the office the other days. I think that type of setup should work well for most people.
I do actually like going into the office a bit but having the flexibility to do both would be ideal.
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:10 - Nov 12 with 1735 views | hype313 |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:06 - Nov 12 by Steve_M |
Yes, definite signs from my employer that talk about taking a new flexible approach forward looks very much like the old model of being office based apart from odd days for specific reasons. That I think comes down to one senior manager who seems to be fervently in favour of office based work.
That will become a problem in the medium-term if employees see other options with greater flexibility I suspect. |
Any company not willing to offer a flexible approach or WFH option will quickly find out they will not only struggle to obtain talent, they will struggle to retain talent too. | |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:12 - Nov 12 with 1721 views | DanTheMan |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:23 - Nov 12 by itfcjoe |
I think it makes sense in many ways, ultimately those people WFH are generally going to be middle and higher income workers so will be the obvious target.
Put it this way, for those working from home, would you go back to the office if you had to pay a couple of % extra in tax by not doing so? |
No, I wouldn't. I'm happy going into the office sporadically but WFH is much better for me for a number of reasons.
I don't see why I should pay (and lets be honest, this will be paid for by people who are WFH, not the employers) for using my own home as a place of work.
For what it's worth, I am not against paying more tax, this just seems an absurd thing to target. |  |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:13 - Nov 12 with 1710 views | StokieBlue |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:10 - Nov 12 by hype313 |
Any company not willing to offer a flexible approach or WFH option will quickly find out they will not only struggle to obtain talent, they will struggle to retain talent too. |
What is a "WFH" option? Every day? A few times a week?
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:14 - Nov 12 with 1703 views | hype313 |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:13 - Nov 12 by StokieBlue |
What is a "WFH" option? Every day? A few times a week?
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Flexible working, the option to split your time accordingly as long as productivity doesn't get compromised, which given what we have seen since March hasn't happened. | |
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