| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 09:51 - Dec 9 with 934 views | TieDyedIn95 |
Ours was Paul Hurst. Imagination and reality work very differently.
The next Town boss needs to be someone with some experience and backbone in this league, not only to get the best out of our existing players but tough enough to deal with the harsh realities of life at this level and not have a meltdown at the press after losing a couple of games. |  |
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| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 09:57 - Dec 9 with 903 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 09:51 - Dec 9 by TieDyedIn95 |
Ours was Paul Hurst. Imagination and reality work very differently.
The next Town boss needs to be someone with some experience and backbone in this league, not only to get the best out of our existing players but tough enough to deal with the harsh realities of life at this level and not have a meltdown at the press after losing a couple of games. |
Paul Cook, you mean? |  | | |
| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:09 - Dec 9 with 880 views | jayessess |
| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 09:51 - Dec 9 by TieDyedIn95 |
Ours was Paul Hurst. Imagination and reality work very differently.
The next Town boss needs to be someone with some experience and backbone in this league, not only to get the best out of our existing players but tough enough to deal with the harsh realities of life at this level and not have a meltdown at the press after losing a couple of games. |
Not sure that appointing the League One manager of the year required much imagination on the part of a mid-table Championship side, really.
Most managerial appointments ultimately don't work out - the current average stint is 1 year 144 days in post - so I don't think there's any guarantees, even with an experienced campaigner. The main obstacle to appointing a foreign coach is probably not that L1 has some special characteristics that are only knowable if you've been there before, but that a club of our current stature isn't much of a draw to be uprooting your life and moving overseas for. There's a reason why every manager in our division is British or Irish born. [Post edited 9 Dec 2020 10:19]
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| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:16 - Dec 9 with 857 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:09 - Dec 9 by jayessess |
Not sure that appointing the League One manager of the year required much imagination on the part of a mid-table Championship side, really.
Most managerial appointments ultimately don't work out - the current average stint is 1 year 144 days in post - so I don't think there's any guarantees, even with an experienced campaigner. The main obstacle to appointing a foreign coach is probably not that L1 has some special characteristics that are only knowable if you've been there before, but that a club of our current stature isn't much of a draw to be uprooting your life and moving overseas for. There's a reason why every manager in our division is British or Irish born. [Post edited 9 Dec 2020 10:19]
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I was going to post something similar, but you've saved me the trouble thanks. There was no imagination needed in Hurst's appointment.
Agree with the rest too. Some owner/boards have the knack of making good decisions so can shorten the odds, but there are certainly no guarantees. Maybe the closest to certainty is us continually choosing poorly! |  |
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| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:21 - Dec 9 with 819 views | Keno |
| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:16 - Dec 9 by Swansea_Blue |
I was going to post something similar, but you've saved me the trouble thanks. There was no imagination needed in Hurst's appointment.
Agree with the rest too. Some owner/boards have the knack of making good decisions so can shorten the odds, but there are certainly no guarantees. Maybe the closest to certainty is us continually choosing poorly! |
The imaginative appointment would have been the dutch bloke or Shefki & Pablo |  |
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| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:25 - Dec 9 with 803 views | jayessess |
| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:16 - Dec 9 by Swansea_Blue |
I was going to post something similar, but you've saved me the trouble thanks. There was no imagination needed in Hurst's appointment.
Agree with the rest too. Some owner/boards have the knack of making good decisions so can shorten the odds, but there are certainly no guarantees. Maybe the closest to certainty is us continually choosing poorly! |
It doesn't strike me that Evans' criteria for appointments is particularly rigorous, which might explain the 1 in 5 success rate. | |
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| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:26 - Dec 9 with 798 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:21 - Dec 9 by Keno |
The imaginative appointment would have been the dutch bloke or Shefki & Pablo |
“One of our own” is probably the laziest type of appointment a club can make |  | | |
| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:30 - Dec 9 with 778 views | Keno |
| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:26 - Dec 9 by ElderGrizzly |
“One of our own” is probably the laziest type of appointment a club can make |
maybe but it would have different as Pablo could have coached the home games but obviously he isnt any good at away games so Shefki would have done those | |
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| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:32 - Dec 9 with 769 views | jayessess |
| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:26 - Dec 9 by ElderGrizzly |
“One of our own” is probably the laziest type of appointment a club can make |
I suppose there's a version of it that's not so lazy - investing in their coaching career, evaluating their abilities, discussing their ideas about football at length, eventually deciding that they merit taking a risk on?
But generally, yeah. | |
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| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:34 - Dec 9 with 769 views | patrickswell |
Nothing to see here really. Barnsley have been making overseas appointments regularly since at least late 2017. |  | | |
| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:36 - Dec 9 with 748 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:25 - Dec 9 by jayessess |
It doesn't strike me that Evans' criteria for appointments is particularly rigorous, which might explain the 1 in 5 success rate. |
The main one seems to be 'must have achieved promotion'. That always used to be the case and Evans openly admitted it. So he's looking for a stamp of approval/mark of potential. I've always thought that's a weird approach which severely restricts the pool of applicants, and also suggests he can't spot potential. Maybe that's harsh, although his lack of success suggests it probably isn't. | |
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| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:44 - Dec 9 with 725 views | jayessess |
| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:36 - Dec 9 by Swansea_Blue |
The main one seems to be 'must have achieved promotion'. That always used to be the case and Evans openly admitted it. So he's looking for a stamp of approval/mark of potential. I've always thought that's a weird approach which severely restricts the pool of applicants, and also suggests he can't spot potential. Maybe that's harsh, although his lack of success suggests it probably isn't. |
Rather narrow too. Lambert had 2 promotions, but what we needed at the time was a coach and an organiser, which I don't think anyone thought those were his strengths, even at the time. [Post edited 9 Dec 2020 10:49]
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| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:47 - Dec 9 with 715 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Imaginative managerial appointment from Premier League highflyers on 10:09 - Dec 9 by jayessess |
Not sure that appointing the League One manager of the year required much imagination on the part of a mid-table Championship side, really.
Most managerial appointments ultimately don't work out - the current average stint is 1 year 144 days in post - so I don't think there's any guarantees, even with an experienced campaigner. The main obstacle to appointing a foreign coach is probably not that L1 has some special characteristics that are only knowable if you've been there before, but that a club of our current stature isn't much of a draw to be uprooting your life and moving overseas for. There's a reason why every manager in our division is British or Irish born. [Post edited 9 Dec 2020 10:19]
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Said at the time though Evans barely did his homework on Hurst. His second half of season performance wasn't that great at all. He should never have been interviewed for such a job. Massive difference league 1 to championship as he found when the likes of Nolan etc looked well out of place. |  |
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