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China changing to a 3 child policy 09:35 - May 31 with 2489 viewsStokieBlue

They are going to move to a 3 child policy due to demographics, however their population still be 5.8% between 2010 and 2020 to 1.41bn.

I would have thought a smaller population would be far better for internal growth and reduction in poverty, even with a small % decrease they would still have a maybe population just under twice that of the entire EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/31/china-announces-three-child-limit-

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Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:41 - May 31 with 2451 viewsbluelagos

As simple as they want the average number of kids per family to rise over 2?

Otherwise they will have fewer and fewer working people to support an ever growing elderly population.

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Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:43 - May 31 with 2445 viewsTractorWood

Not sure why it needs a policy for everything. Just say you can have as many kids as you want if they are worried about balancing an ageing population.

The reason they need it Stokie is to balance the last 80 years where the population would have been growing at double digit rates, meaning an ageing workforce, potentially not a big enough future workforce, growing economy etc.
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I know that was then, but it could be again..
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Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:48 - May 31 with 2425 viewsbluelagos

Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:43 - May 31 by TractorWood

Not sure why it needs a policy for everything. Just say you can have as many kids as you want if they are worried about balancing an ageing population.

The reason they need it Stokie is to balance the last 80 years where the population would have been growing at double digit rates, meaning an ageing workforce, potentially not a big enough future workforce, growing economy etc.
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Reminds me the Tommy Cooper gag.

Apparently, 1 in 5 people in the world are Chinese. And there are 5 people in my family, so it must be one of them. It's either my mum or my dad. Or my older brother Colin. Or my younger brother Ho-Cha-Chu. But I think it's Colin.

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Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:49 - May 31 with 2407 viewsStokieBlue

Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:43 - May 31 by TractorWood

Not sure why it needs a policy for everything. Just say you can have as many kids as you want if they are worried about balancing an ageing population.

The reason they need it Stokie is to balance the last 80 years where the population would have been growing at double digit rates, meaning an ageing workforce, potentially not a big enough future workforce, growing economy etc.
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I understand the points you've raised of course, it's more whether they are valid given the modern nation of China.

They aren't going to keep growing at double-digit rates and in fact they haven't for a good few years now. They have 20m graduates a year most of which won't find skilled jobs.

Increasing the population isn't going to solve their issues, having less people but a more advanced internal economy and structure would be better in the long run. It just looks like a vert Communist government approach to the problem, get more bodies.

It's also not great for the environment but that isn't really a consideration I guess.

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Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:51 - May 31 with 2399 viewsGuthrum

They are in danger of being overtaken by India. Which could be significant in a future war.

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Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:53 - May 31 with 2392 viewsStokieBlue

Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:41 - May 31 by bluelagos

As simple as they want the average number of kids per family to rise over 2?

Otherwise they will have fewer and fewer working people to support an ever growing elderly population.


Sure, I understand that but there are 50m+ unemployed people in China, they don't have the jobs to support a growing population and they especially don't have the jobs for a highly skilled graduate population.

It's just an Incredible amount of people to be living in a country. It's the EU+USA+Brazil+UK+Russia. Growing it wouldn't seem like a feasible longer term strategy although it might solve some shorter term issues.

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Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:54 - May 31 with 2391 viewsFtnfwest

Well they're decreasing everyone else's so why not?
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Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:54 - May 31 with 2387 viewsWD19

I had a weird daydream yesterday about them annexing Mongolia to provide space for their growing population......once their burgeoning population and improved transport infrastructure completely saturates their own territory.
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Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:55 - May 31 with 2385 viewsStokieBlue

Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:51 - May 31 by Guthrum

They are in danger of being overtaken by India. Which could be significant in a future war.


I think by most studies they were overtaken by India a few years ago and have no chance in catching up given India is a young and growing population. I don't think the has been a reliable population count in India for a while.

As for a war, China has plenty of troops and their military is miles ahead of Indias. I don't think that can be one of the concerns.

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Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:56 - May 31 with 2370 viewsWeWereZombies

Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:51 - May 31 by Guthrum

They are in danger of being overtaken by India. Which could be significant in a future war.


Have you seen the population growth forecasts for Ethiopia lately? And krill...there are trillions of them, I reckon they could take the Isle of Wight just by turning up, and then think about somewhere the size of Wales.

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China changing to a 3 child policy on 10:01 - May 31 with 2340 viewsBarneycurley

From my (obvious) limited knowledge is that a larger population infact leads to a higher GDP in the medium/long term.

Especially in a country that's freshly out of a largely communist mindset, considering the volume of people in that country that's moved into the "middle class" bracket then having a few hundred million more will just see them further outgrow everyone else.

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Why would China want to grow its population? on 10:08 - May 31 with 2288 viewsGuthrum

Why would China want to grow its population? on 09:55 - May 31 by StokieBlue

I think by most studies they were overtaken by India a few years ago and have no chance in catching up given India is a young and growing population. I don't think the has been a reliable population count in India for a while.

As for a war, China has plenty of troops and their military is miles ahead of Indias. I don't think that can be one of the concerns.

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It's more about attitudes and posturing than actual military effectiveness.

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China changing to a 3 child policy on 13:23 - May 31 with 2158 viewsJ2BLUE

Maybe the UK should do the same

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China changing to a 3 child policy on 13:29 - May 31 with 2145 viewsfooters

China changing to a 3 child policy on 13:23 - May 31 by J2BLUE

Maybe the UK should do the same


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China changing to a 3 child policy on 14:46 - May 31 with 2055 viewsfactual_blue

China changing to a 3 child policy on 13:29 - May 31 by footers

Sow those wild oats, J2! You're a yuppie now so the womenfolk should be all over you.


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China changing to a 3 child policy on 14:51 - May 31 with 2048 viewsTimefliesbyintheblue

China changing to a 3 child policy on 13:23 - May 31 by J2BLUE

Maybe the UK should do the same


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China changing to a 3 child policy on 16:31 - May 31 with 1948 viewsfactual_blue

Reminds me of this



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