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Things going well for the DUP then on 23:12 - Jun 17 by mylittletown
We are all entitled to hold whatever views we like, but you do have to be a special kind of stupid to be a Creationist.
(Just my view, which I am absolutely entitled to hold)
The DUP are utterly vile sociopathic extremists playing to a nasty bunch of bigots based around a twisted vision of patriotism of who make the current Tory party look like....well.......comfortable bedmates, to be honest.
[just my opinion, which I am absolutely entitled to uphold]
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Things going well for the DUP then on 23:18 - Jun 17 by BlueBadger
The DUP are utterly vile sociopathic extremists playing to a nasty bunch of bigots based around a twisted vision of patriotism of who make the current Tory party look like....well.......comfortable bedmates, to be honest.
[just my opinion, which I am absolutely entitled to uphold]
I acknowledge that it is your opinion. My opinion is that you are, at least in part, wrong. While some of the Tories may be moderate by comparison there are plenty, including the embarrassing member for Ipswich, who fit your description of the DUP to a capital 'T'.
"The DUP backed the UK’s departure from the EU, torpedoed Theresa May’s proposed Brexit deal and paved the way for the rise of Boris Johnson, only to be betrayed by his promise to not impose trade checks in the Irish Sea."
If ever there was needed a clear example of Brexiteers being 'useful idiots' then this was the case.
If an international treaty stopped there being a border between the two Irelands, then any leaving of the EU would mean a customs border between EU and the none EU country (UK) would have to be the Irish Sea.
This was well understood, well before the 2016 referendum - but dismissed by the sheep with incessant bleats of 'project fear....baa baa'.
Poots represented a mindset that held that 'unionism' should continue to enjoy a privilege within NI. One that no longer equates to the surrounding reality.
There are genuine economic problems affecting NI, just as with parts of mainland UK where the loss of heavy industry has left thousands without work, or a future. All too easy then to fall prey to the lies of those who want your votes, but not the problems.
Much as with Mays billion plus bribe to the DUP, which ensured short gain term for both, but did more harm long term. The DUP's active support for Johnson's blatant lie over customs checks is now rebounding back badly. The same excrement that previously hit the fan for farmers, fishermen and exporters.
It leaves the average unionist voter with the choice of either circling the wagons even tighter (Poots), or reaching out to work with your close neighbours to better improve your shared lot. A microcosm of brexit.
Do you embrace the future, or try to cling to the past.
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Things going well for the DUP then on 12:18 - Jun 18 with 1266 views
Things going well for the DUP then on 23:18 - Jun 17 by BlueBadger
The DUP are utterly vile sociopathic extremists playing to a nasty bunch of bigots based around a twisted vision of patriotism of who make the current Tory party look like....well.......comfortable bedmates, to be honest.
[just my opinion, which I am absolutely entitled to uphold]
I can't believe you're dismissing their very genuine concerns.
Things going well for the DUP then on 12:16 - Jun 18 by HARRY10
"The DUP backed the UK’s departure from the EU, torpedoed Theresa May’s proposed Brexit deal and paved the way for the rise of Boris Johnson, only to be betrayed by his promise to not impose trade checks in the Irish Sea."
If ever there was needed a clear example of Brexiteers being 'useful idiots' then this was the case.
If an international treaty stopped there being a border between the two Irelands, then any leaving of the EU would mean a customs border between EU and the none EU country (UK) would have to be the Irish Sea.
This was well understood, well before the 2016 referendum - but dismissed by the sheep with incessant bleats of 'project fear....baa baa'.
Poots represented a mindset that held that 'unionism' should continue to enjoy a privilege within NI. One that no longer equates to the surrounding reality.
There are genuine economic problems affecting NI, just as with parts of mainland UK where the loss of heavy industry has left thousands without work, or a future. All too easy then to fall prey to the lies of those who want your votes, but not the problems.
Much as with Mays billion plus bribe to the DUP, which ensured short gain term for both, but did more harm long term. The DUP's active support for Johnson's blatant lie over customs checks is now rebounding back badly. The same excrement that previously hit the fan for farmers, fishermen and exporters.
It leaves the average unionist voter with the choice of either circling the wagons even tighter (Poots), or reaching out to work with your close neighbours to better improve your shared lot. A microcosm of brexit.
Do you embrace the future, or try to cling to the past.
That is a very clear and accurate assessment of recent NI history.
Their intransigent view on religion and the Union is what has kept the conflict in the North bubbling under the surface. They do not want compromise or inclusion and are trying to unravel the Good Friday Agreement.
Watch them come to the fore in the triumphal Marching Season where the Battle of the Boyne in 1690 is celebrated for several months around the 12th of July. https://cain.ulster.ac.uk/issues/parade/chpa1.htm Like the 'March of the Flags' in East Jerusalem but for months.
This event prevented the Catolic James regaining the British crown and William ensuring the continued Protestant ascendancy in Ireland so it is a 'two fingers' to the Catholics.
We see the consequences of oppression a race or religion and that is at the root of the Northern Irish problem.
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Things going well for the DUP then on 16:23 - Jun 18 with 1165 views
The 'marching season' is little more than a visualisation of backward looking bigotry, under the guise of some very misunderstood understanding of history. One that actually has the pope celebrating the Protestant victory, as this was about the balance of power in Europe, not Irish politics in themselves.
Take a look at Belfast and you will see almost no difference in the quality of lives either side of the 'peace walls'. Just as in the UK it has been found too easy to offer up simplistic reasons for all too obvious failings.
In Belfast, it is the Catholics. Well paid positions in unionist communities depend on keeping that rhetoric going. No suggestion that were either community to visit the other they might see the poverty only differs by the pictures painted on the side of the houses.
I can only be reminde of the WW1 poem by Seifried Sassoon
“Good-morning, good-morning!” the General said When we met him last week on our way to the line. Now the soldiers he smiled at are most of 'em dead, And we're cursing his staff for incompetent swine. “He's a cheery old card,” grunted Harry to Jack As they slogged up to Arras with rifle and pack.
But he did for them both by his plan of attack."
The same cheery old card whose lies did for those unionists, just as they did for fishermen, farmers and exporters. Their trust placed on the basis that as he (Johnson) had lied on every other previous occasion, then he must finally be telling the truth this time.
Watch the pssed pr ick lie through his teeth, as he hasn't a clue about what he is spouting
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Things going well for the DUP then on 20:26 - Jun 18 with 1123 views
Their intransigent view on religion and the Union is what has kept the conflict in the North bubbling under the surface. They do not want compromise or inclusion and are trying to unravel the Good Friday Agreement.
Watch them come to the fore in the triumphal Marching Season where the Battle of the Boyne in 1690 is celebrated for several months around the 12th of July. https://cain.ulster.ac.uk/issues/parade/chpa1.htm Like the 'March of the Flags' in East Jerusalem but for months.
This event prevented the Catolic James regaining the British crown and William ensuring the continued Protestant ascendancy in Ireland so it is a 'two fingers' to the Catholics.
We see the consequences of oppression a race or religion and that is at the root of the Northern Irish problem.
It always amuses me that the original Tories were hard line Catholic supporters, whilst their opposition were called Whigs, who were hard line Protestant supporters (and organised the coup that brought the Protestant King, William of Orange to the throne).
Both eventually somehow merged into and are now fully associated with the Conservative party, albeit the Whigs are mostly forgotten, except I guess, by Facters (lived through it so must remember) and our board (bored) history expert Guthers? 🤷â€ðŸ˜
Believe it or not, there were actual Tory hunts in the North of Ireland (dead or alive bounties) for Catholic rebels for a long time after the Battle of the Boyne.
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Things going well for the DUP then on 19:54 - Jun 19 with 1041 views
Their intransigent view on religion and the Union is what has kept the conflict in the North bubbling under the surface. They do not want compromise or inclusion and are trying to unravel the Good Friday Agreement.
Watch them come to the fore in the triumphal Marching Season where the Battle of the Boyne in 1690 is celebrated for several months around the 12th of July. https://cain.ulster.ac.uk/issues/parade/chpa1.htm Like the 'March of the Flags' in East Jerusalem but for months.
This event prevented the Catolic James regaining the British crown and William ensuring the continued Protestant ascendancy in Ireland so it is a 'two fingers' to the Catholics.
We see the consequences of oppression a race or religion and that is at the root of the Northern Irish problem.
Used to cringe seeing the orange March in Liverpool when I lived there. What a mob of absolute bellends
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Things going well for the DUP then on 08:38 - Jun 20 with 916 views
Their intransigent view on religion and the Union is what has kept the conflict in the North bubbling under the surface. They do not want compromise or inclusion and are trying to unravel the Good Friday Agreement.
Watch them come to the fore in the triumphal Marching Season where the Battle of the Boyne in 1690 is celebrated for several months around the 12th of July. https://cain.ulster.ac.uk/issues/parade/chpa1.htm Like the 'March of the Flags' in East Jerusalem but for months.
This event prevented the Catolic James regaining the British crown and William ensuring the continued Protestant ascendancy in Ireland so it is a 'two fingers' to the Catholics.
We see the consequences of oppression a race or religion and that is at the root of the Northern Irish problem.
It was more a battle against the rising ascendency of France, and the economic changes that were challenging the Kings previous autocratic control through divine rule.
An irony being with the former, that the pope actually celebrated the defeat of Catholic James II, being as it was ultimately a defeat of further French expansion.
And the battle was fought on the 1st of July, not the 12th. It was changed when the Gregorian calendar was adopted over Julian one.
Two battalions of German Protestants fought on the Catholic side, and the majority of Williams troops were Dutch, German, Danish and even a fair number of French (Huguenots).
I doubt very much many, if any, of the orange clad 'Homepride' bigots marching have either the slightest idea, or care, about the truth around that battle - or that something to march and celebrate might be working towards a better future (and present) for their children.
But then that would require thinking, and more importantly giving up the privileges that come with propagating hate.
This side of the Irish Sea we don't bother with marching - instead, we set up a TV station to perpetuate lies, misinformation and hate.
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