| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:15 - Aug 15 with 3342 views | Herbivore |
Doesn't sound amazing, bang average League 1 CB by the sounds of it. Maybe he's being signed mainly as cover until Edmundson is up to speed and Nsiala is back? I'm sure I read that Edmundson prefers to play on the left despite being right footed. |  |
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| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:24 - Aug 15 with 3299 views | pointofblue |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:15 - Aug 15 by Herbivore |
Doesn't sound amazing, bang average League 1 CB by the sounds of it. Maybe he's being signed mainly as cover until Edmundson is up to speed and Nsiala is back? I'm sure I read that Edmundson prefers to play on the left despite being right footed. |
We’re paying £500k+ for cover? Don’t like the sound of that.
To be honest my big concern is we’re taking a gamble at centre back. An in form Woolfenden and Nsiala playing as he did at Shrewsbury both have better credentials at this level than either Edmundson or Burgess. Now, neither are anywhere near their best at the moment, and this could be a gamble which pays off but I am concerned about it. Over a million pound spent and I have my doubts as to whether we have strengthened at all. |  |
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| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:29 - Aug 15 with 3241 views | Skip_Intro |
ah yes that's a great point - clearly a couple of random fans on a forum know much more than Ashton, Cook etc. who probably have 50 years plus of professional football experience between them...
Good job QPR and Swansea didn't listen to many of our knowledgable fans on here or we would have had to pay them to take Dozzell and Downes... |  | | |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:30 - Aug 15 with 3229 views | pointofblue |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:29 - Aug 15 by Skip_Intro |
ah yes that's a great point - clearly a couple of random fans on a forum know much more than Ashton, Cook etc. who probably have 50 years plus of professional football experience between them...
Good job QPR and Swansea didn't listen to many of our knowledgable fans on here or we would have had to pay them to take Dozzell and Downes... |
I think most fans on here could see potential in Dozzell and Downes but felt they probably needed to move on for all parties sake. | |
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| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:32 - Aug 15 with 3201 views | quad |
Accrington need left sided defenders according to their fans. Taxi for Kenlock?? | | | |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:33 - Aug 15 with 3192 views | RedX |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:15 - Aug 15 by Herbivore |
Doesn't sound amazing, bang average League 1 CB by the sounds of it. Maybe he's being signed mainly as cover until Edmundson is up to speed and Nsiala is back? I'm sure I read that Edmundson prefers to play on the left despite being right footed. |
Sounds to me they don't know much about the player. Also they are fans that have come to accept losing their better players, so there won't be much anger once they get a decent fee. |  | | |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:37 - Aug 15 with 3135 views | JDB23 |
The itfc analytics guy on Twitter doesn’t seem to rate this one either. Bit of a come down from Sonny Bradley but let’s wait and see. | | | |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:53 - Aug 15 with 2990 views | gtsb1966 |
Bloke hasn't even put the shirt on yet and people are moaning. Unbelievable. |  | | |
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| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:56 - Aug 15 with 2938 views | ITFCBlues |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:15 - Aug 15 by Herbivore |
Doesn't sound amazing, bang average League 1 CB by the sounds of it. Maybe he's being signed mainly as cover until Edmundson is up to speed and Nsiala is back? I'm sure I read that Edmundson prefers to play on the left despite being right footed. |
You're a happy soul 😂😂😂 |  |
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| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:57 - Aug 15 with 2936 views | Fixed_It |
He won more aerial battles than any other centre-half in the division last season, and made more tackles/interceptions combined than anyone else in League One.
Yet some people want to write him off before they've even seen him... |  |
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| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:01 - Aug 15 with 2886 views | ITFCBlues |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:57 - Aug 15 by Fixed_It |
He won more aerial battles than any other centre-half in the division last season, and made more tackles/interceptions combined than anyone else in League One.
Yet some people want to write him off before they've even seen him... |
Amazing isn't it? "bang average L1 CB" already being written off.
His signing sounds like exactly what's needed for this division | |
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| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:02 - Aug 15 with 2870 views | pointofblue |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 11:53 - Aug 15 by gtsb1966 |
Bloke hasn't even put the shirt on yet and people are moaning. Unbelievable. |
Yes, maybe I’m being harsh, just doesn’t strike me as someone who is an improvement - or enough of an improvement - on what we’ve already got. Considering the signings of Evans, Burns, Bonne and Pigott I was perhaps hoping for a stand out centre back at this level; someone with experience at the upper end of the division or perhaps even the one above.
Whilst I seem to be fishing for down arrows I may as well say that Accrington play in a back three whereas Cook goes with a four - is he accomplished at playing the way we need him to? Particularly as he and Edmundson both seem to prefer playing on the left.
I’m sure all this has been looked into but, to me, it feels like there’s a whiff of panic to this signing. Can’t help but wonder how many potential deals have broken down to get to this point. I really hope I’m proven wrong and he’s the next Tony Mowbray/Jason De Vos. | |
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| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:06 - Aug 15 with 2828 views | Skip_Intro |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:02 - Aug 15 by pointofblue |
Yes, maybe I’m being harsh, just doesn’t strike me as someone who is an improvement - or enough of an improvement - on what we’ve already got. Considering the signings of Evans, Burns, Bonne and Pigott I was perhaps hoping for a stand out centre back at this level; someone with experience at the upper end of the division or perhaps even the one above.
Whilst I seem to be fishing for down arrows I may as well say that Accrington play in a back three whereas Cook goes with a four - is he accomplished at playing the way we need him to? Particularly as he and Edmundson both seem to prefer playing on the left.
I’m sure all this has been looked into but, to me, it feels like there’s a whiff of panic to this signing. Can’t help but wonder how many potential deals have broken down to get to this point. I really hope I’m proven wrong and he’s the next Tony Mowbray/Jason De Vos. |
it's not about whether you are being harsh or not, it's about the fact that you are being negative about a player who hasn't even pulled the shirt on yet based upon a couple of feckless posts on another fan forum... | | | |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:10 - Aug 15 with 2789 views | pointofblue |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:06 - Aug 15 by Skip_Intro |
it's not about whether you are being harsh or not, it's about the fact that you are being negative about a player who hasn't even pulled the shirt on yet based upon a couple of feckless posts on another fan forum... |
Perhaps I'm just burned by Donacien and Jackson.  
In all seriousness I'd be fine with his signing if we brought in someone like Wisdom as well. In midfield and attack we've introduced a nice blend (on paper) of experience and youth from higher levels. In defence not so much. | |
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| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:12 - Aug 15 with 2755 views | gtsb1966 |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:10 - Aug 15 by pointofblue |
Perhaps I'm just burned by Donacien and Jackson.
In all seriousness I'd be fine with his signing if we brought in someone like Wisdom as well. In midfield and attack we've introduced a nice blend (on paper) of experience and youth from higher levels. In defence not so much. |
But we don't need 'names' we need players who can do a job and this blokes statistics suggest he is perfectly adequate to do that job in this division. | | | |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:13 - Aug 15 with 2749 views | Asa |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:01 - Aug 15 by ITFCBlues |
Amazing isn't it? "bang average L1 CB" already being written off.
His signing sounds like exactly what's needed for this division |
You’d think that when he’s top of pretty important positional stat categories for the whole division that he’d immediately been seen as better than bang average.
Wonder what the defenders who finished in the middle or lower half of those stats are? Bang, bang average? | | | |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:13 - Aug 15 with 2746 views | Skip_Intro |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:10 - Aug 15 by pointofblue |
Perhaps I'm just burned by Donacien and Jackson.
In all seriousness I'd be fine with his signing if we brought in someone like Wisdom as well. In midfield and attack we've introduced a nice blend (on paper) of experience and youth from higher levels. In defence not so much. |
Donacien was actually the better of our 2 Cbs by quite some way yesterday and whilst he hasn't set the world alight he hasn't put a foot wrong this season...as for Jackson well the less said the better... | | | |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:15 - Aug 15 with 2731 views | pointofblue |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:13 - Aug 15 by Skip_Intro |
Donacien was actually the better of our 2 Cbs by quite some way yesterday and whilst he hasn't set the world alight he hasn't put a foot wrong this season...as for Jackson well the less said the better... |
The issue is we brought Donacien in to be a Championship standard player. | |
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| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:15 - Aug 15 with 2733 views | NBVJohn |
Line of the day for me:
‘’Interesting posts on Ipswich forum saying they hope he is better than the last couple they have sold us.
When we sold the last 2 to em perhaps the knobs in charge did not know how to get the best from em? yeh never know!’’ | | | |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:22 - Aug 15 with 2645 views | pointofblue |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:15 - Aug 15 by NBVJohn |
Line of the day for me:
‘’Interesting posts on Ipswich forum saying they hope he is better than the last couple they have sold us.
When we sold the last 2 to em perhaps the knobs in charge did not know how to get the best from em? yeh never know!’’ |
Burgess is used to playing on the left on a back three. We'll be looking to play him in a back two and, unless Woolfenden quickly refinds his 19/20 form (or Nsiala turns the clock back to 17/18), either him or Edmundson will be on their weaker side.
The above is in reference to the comment on not knowing how to get the best from them - nothing more than that. | |
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| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:23 - Aug 15 with 2637 views | Lightworker |
Struggling to see how you reached that conclusion after reading the thread to be honest.
Why don't we just wait and see, he may be just what we need. We certainly need somebody that wins everything in the air as we will come up against a lot of direct teams like Burton this season and Wolfenden is just too soft for me. |  | | |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:40 - Aug 15 with 2485 views | Illinoisblue |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:10 - Aug 15 by pointofblue |
Perhaps I'm just burned by Donacien and Jackson.
In all seriousness I'd be fine with his signing if we brought in someone like Wisdom as well. In midfield and attack we've introduced a nice blend (on paper) of experience and youth from higher levels. In defence not so much. |
Donacien has done nothing wrong whenever he’s played. And despite all the stick he’s been getting, Wolf was decent yesterday too (aside from one sloppy pass late on). We are League One, expecting us - or any club in this league - to have error-free defenders is wholly unrealistic. |  |
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| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:42 - Aug 15 with 2460 views | pointofblue |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:40 - Aug 15 by Illinoisblue |
Donacien has done nothing wrong whenever he’s played. And despite all the stick he’s been getting, Wolf was decent yesterday too (aside from one sloppy pass late on). We are League One, expecting us - or any club in this league - to have error-free defenders is wholly unrealistic. |
As I said the issue with Donacien is he was signed to be a Championship squad player though I agree, I think he's done well at centre back so far considering the circumstances he's come in to. I've also been someone who's been more defensive (no pun intended) of Woolfenden than most but have to accept that he's not hit the relative heights of 19/20 for a while. | |
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| Accrington fans on Burgess on 13:30 - Aug 15 with 2052 views | Herbivore |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 12:40 - Aug 15 by Illinoisblue |
Donacien has done nothing wrong whenever he’s played. And despite all the stick he’s been getting, Wolf was decent yesterday too (aside from one sloppy pass late on). We are League One, expecting us - or any club in this league - to have error-free defenders is wholly unrealistic. |
Although if we keep conceding two goals in every game we're going to find it pretty tough to win many games. | |
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| Accrington fans on Burgess on 13:44 - Aug 15 with 1958 views | Steve_M |
| Accrington fans on Burgess on 13:30 - Aug 15 by Herbivore |
Although if we keep conceding two goals in every game we're going to find it pretty tough to win many games. |
We don't concede many chances, think there was only one other of note yesterday - header from distance midway through second half - but we concede from an awful lot of the chances we allow.
Better players & organisation should help there.The latter only comes from playing matches as a unit. |  |
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