| If Woolfie isn't injured 16:17 - Sep 11 with 2384 views | GlasgowBlue |
Then it was absolutely criminal of Cook to throw Edmunson straight into the starting elven.
The bloke has had no pre season and came here injured.
Surely he should have had 15 minutes here and there before becoming a starter? |  |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 16:18 - Sep 11 with 2354 views | homer_123 |
No...I'd say Cook called it right...ohhhh |  |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 16:18 - Sep 11 with 2346 views | gordon |
Definitely, it's been a shambles back there. |  | | |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 16:21 - Sep 11 with 2311 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
The problem is deeper than who is playing. Whatever team has been on the pitch has conceded 2 goals every match. Now we are being run ragged.
Brenner Woolley says he isn't going to be sacked in the morning. Well he isn't going to be here in 2 weeks is he? |  |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 18:03 - Sep 11 with 2176 views | pointofblue |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 16:21 - Sep 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
The problem is deeper than who is playing. Whatever team has been on the pitch has conceded 2 goals every match. Now we are being run ragged.
Brenner Woolley says he isn't going to be sacked in the morning. Well he isn't going to be here in 2 weeks is he? |
Well, I tried to say that at the time, but so many seemed desperate to just blame Woolfenden. |  |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 18:33 - Sep 11 with 2065 views | JammyDodgerrr |
It's not that outrageous- spent a million quid on the key playing at a 'higher' level and he should be able to cope with that. Out of the defense today he looked the best anyway( a low bar obviously) so not sure quite what you're getting at. |  |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 02:34 - Sep 12 with 1933 views | pointofblue |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 18:33 - Sep 11 by JammyDodgerrr |
It's not that outrageous- spent a million quid on the key playing at a 'higher' level and he should be able to cope with that. Out of the defense today he looked the best anyway( a low bar obviously) so not sure quite what you're getting at. |
The defence was shambolic and none of them came out of it looking good. Edmundson looked out of his depth in the second half though, admittedly, so did everyone but Burns, Aluko and Bonne. | |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 07:09 - Sep 12 with 1777 views | gordon |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 18:33 - Sep 11 by JammyDodgerrr |
It's not that outrageous- spent a million quid on the key playing at a 'higher' level and he should be able to cope with that. Out of the defense today he looked the best anyway( a low bar obviously) so not sure quite what you're getting at. |
He was appalling, dreadful marking for the first goal, made no effort to get close to the scorer when it was obvious he could have a clear chance. | | | |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 07:09 - Sep 12 with 1772 views | Pinewoodblue |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 02:34 - Sep 12 by pointofblue |
The defence was shambolic and none of them came out of it looking good. Edmundson looked out of his depth in the second half though, admittedly, so did everyone but Burns, Aluko and Bonne. |
Edmundson’s first game should have been the Trophy game but suppose Cook was determined not to play Woolfenden, assuming he isn’t carrying an injury. |  |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 07:18 - Sep 12 with 1746 views | ITFCBlues |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 07:09 - Sep 12 by gordon |
He was appalling, dreadful marking for the first goal, made no effort to get close to the scorer when it was obvious he could have a clear chance. |
Dreadful marking for the first goal. So you want our CB to be sitting on the right wing marking their left winger?
Ffs. KVY was horrific in the first 20 mins again. Edmundson had a poor game as well, but to blame his marking for the 1st goal is a stretch. |  |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 08:40 - Sep 12 with 1604 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 07:18 - Sep 12 by ITFCBlues |
Dreadful marking for the first goal. So you want our CB to be sitting on the right wing marking their left winger?
Ffs. KVY was horrific in the first 20 mins again. Edmundson had a poor game as well, but to blame his marking for the 1st goal is a stretch. |
Eh? I’d watch it again if I was you. His positioning was fine when it was switched to the winger but he just completely failed to react from there, was miles from Afolayan when it was headed inside and Afolayan had time to bring it down, set himself and shoot as a result. Dreadful, lazy defending |  |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 08:51 - Sep 12 with 1570 views | ITFCBlues |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 08:40 - Sep 12 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Eh? I’d watch it again if I was you. His positioning was fine when it was switched to the winger but he just completely failed to react from there, was miles from Afolayan when it was headed inside and Afolayan had time to bring it down, set himself and shoot as a result. Dreadful, lazy defending |
Eh? Not denying that he should've done better after KVY left him, but to say he should be marking a left winger is perhaps a stretch too far? | |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 08:54 - Sep 12 with 1545 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 08:51 - Sep 12 by ITFCBlues |
Eh? Not denying that he should've done better after KVY left him, but to say he should be marking a left winger is perhaps a stretch too far? |
I have no idea what you’re on about, no one has suggested he should have been sat on the right marking their left winger? | |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 08:56 - Sep 12 with 1530 views | ITFCBlues |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 08:54 - Sep 12 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I have no idea what you’re on about, no one has suggested he should have been sat on the right marking their left winger? |
Suggest you read the thread then before commenting 👠| |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:00 - Sep 12 with 1477 views | gordon |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 08:51 - Sep 12 by ITFCBlues |
Eh? Not denying that he should've done better after KVY left him, but to say he should be marking a left winger is perhaps a stretch too far? |
Worth watching it again - once the crossfield pass is hit towards the player in the left-wing position, KVY has to close this down, and the danger from Afolayan is obvious and Edmundson is facing play and can clearly see Afolayan is in space in a dangerous position, and he absolutely has to close down that space and get goalside, and if he does there isn't even a chance. Nsiala would have been touch-tight to him in that situation, no question, probably won the ball and we wouldn't even have remembered the passage of play.
https://www.skysports.com/football/ipswich-town-vs-bolton-wanderers/report/44796 | | | |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:00 - Sep 12 with 1473 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 08:56 - Sep 12 by ITFCBlues |
Suggest you read the thread then before commenting 👠|
I have, no one has said anything of the sort. The post you replied to said ‘He was appalling, dreadful marking for the first goal, made no effort to get close to the scorer when it was obvious he could have a clear chance.’, which is absolutely spot on IMO as per my post above | |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:05 - Sep 12 with 1444 views | gordon |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:00 - Sep 12 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I have, no one has said anything of the sort. The post you replied to said ‘He was appalling, dreadful marking for the first goal, made no effort to get close to the scorer when it was obvious he could have a clear chance.’, which is absolutely spot on IMO as per my post above |
Yes, see above - it's hard for a defender when the forward is the behind him while play is developing, but in this case Edmundson is facing the ball and can clearly see the position of the attacker and that the attacker is unmarked in a dangerous space, yet doesn't even attempt to close down the space. Think he just hoped that the wide player wouldn't get the header right or wouldn't spot the pass. | | | |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:06 - Sep 12 with 1436 views | Romeo4 |
For what it’s worth I think the back four yesterday is the best we have. They obviously weren’t great but I think the main problem yesterday was the totally ineffective shield in front of them.
The wide open areas between our holding 2 midfielders and the front 4 provided Bolton the space to dictate play and launch attacks against our totally exposed and shapeless back line. Alarming stuff. |  | | |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:10 - Sep 12 with 1416 views | gordon |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:06 - Sep 12 by Romeo4 |
For what it’s worth I think the back four yesterday is the best we have. They obviously weren’t great but I think the main problem yesterday was the totally ineffective shield in front of them.
The wide open areas between our holding 2 midfielders and the front 4 provided Bolton the space to dictate play and launch attacks against our totally exposed and shapeless back line. Alarming stuff. |
Agree that Harper and Evans looked woeful defensively (not that they contributed offensively), but the centre-backs did look very poor yesterday too. | | | |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:20 - Sep 12 with 1355 views | ITFCBlues |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:05 - Sep 12 by gordon |
Yes, see above - it's hard for a defender when the forward is the behind him while play is developing, but in this case Edmundson is facing the ball and can clearly see the position of the attacker and that the attacker is unmarked in a dangerous space, yet doesn't even attempt to close down the space. Think he just hoped that the wide player wouldn't get the header right or wouldn't spot the pass. |
Just watched again and hold my hands up, didnt play out how I thought it had originally.
All the goals we concede are sides exploiting our high full backs. | |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:47 - Sep 12 with 1279 views | Romeo4 |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:20 - Sep 12 by ITFCBlues |
Just watched again and hold my hands up, didnt play out how I thought it had originally.
All the goals we concede are sides exploiting our high full backs. |
Yep. I always thought that Cook like to allow his FB’s to bomb on in the knowledge that the 2 holding MFs would provide some cover for them. I’ve not seen Harper or Evans step wider than the width of the penalty areas once meaningfully.
Maybe I have that wrong about Cook’s system. But either way, by allowing FB’s to get forward and not having any cover for the space they vacate just allows the opposition to hurt us in transition by targeting this space. Bolton did this very effectively. | | | |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:54 - Sep 12 with 1257 views | Radlett_blue |
You seriously think a CB should be eased back by bringing him on for 15 minutes here & there & disrupting a defence? Very strange.
Arguable Edmunson should first have had an U23 game of waited for the Micky Mouse Cup next week. |  |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:58 - Sep 12 with 1232 views | pointofblue |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:54 - Sep 12 by Radlett_blue |
You seriously think a CB should be eased back by bringing him on for 15 minutes here & there & disrupting a defence? Very strange.
Arguable Edmunson should first have had an U23 game of waited for the Micky Mouse Cup next week. |
Yes, there’s no point changing the defence late on in the game, unless leading by three clear goals or something, but Woolfenden and Burgess were building an understanding and actually looked relatively solid from open play and that was with utterly no midfield in front of them to speak of. The weird thing was we looked better defending set pieces yesterday but I guess Bolton didn’t need them when they could cut through us at will. | |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 10:16 - Sep 12 with 1188 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:20 - Sep 12 by ITFCBlues |
Just watched again and hold my hands up, didnt play out how I thought it had originally.
All the goals we concede are sides exploiting our high full backs. |
Fair play | |
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| If Woolfie isn't injured on 10:21 - Sep 12 with 1155 views | BiGDonnie |
| If Woolfie isn't injured on 09:00 - Sep 12 by gordon |
Worth watching it again - once the crossfield pass is hit towards the player in the left-wing position, KVY has to close this down, and the danger from Afolayan is obvious and Edmundson is facing play and can clearly see Afolayan is in space in a dangerous position, and he absolutely has to close down that space and get goalside, and if he does there isn't even a chance. Nsiala would have been touch-tight to him in that situation, no question, probably won the ball and we wouldn't even have remembered the passage of play.
https://www.skysports.com/football/ipswich-town-vs-bolton-wanderers/report/44796 |
Remember the training clips pre season?
"You've gotta want it, you've gotta f**kin want it"?
They look they want anything but 'it'! |  |
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