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The Vaccine effect on saving lives 15:14 - Dec 2 with 1146 viewsbournemouthblue

Hi guys, I've made the mistake of debating the vaccine with anti-vaxxers

Always a mistake


I'm sure someone had shared graphs the other day which showed the massive drop in deaths as the vaccine kicked in

Does anyone have any of these graphs they can share?

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The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 15:43 - Dec 2 with 1043 viewsnoggin

Yeah but some nurse in Mississippi said.....

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The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 15:46 - Dec 2 with 1035 viewsStokieBlue

If they are actual proper anti-vaxxers rather than contrarians then I would say it's almost pointless debating with them.

They are like the flat earthers who keep redesigning their own experiment because it keeps telling them the Earth is round.

Bonkers.

That is relatively harmless, unfortunately anti-vaxxers are extremely harmful.

SB
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The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 15:52 - Dec 2 with 1016 viewsfactual_blue

The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 15:46 - Dec 2 by StokieBlue

If they are actual proper anti-vaxxers rather than contrarians then I would say it's almost pointless debating with them.

They are like the flat earthers who keep redesigning their own experiment because it keeps telling them the Earth is round.

Bonkers.

That is relatively harmless, unfortunately anti-vaxxers are extremely harmful.

SB


They'll simply tell you the graphs are faked.

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The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 18:34 - Dec 2 with 888 viewsEireannach_gorm

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The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 18:45 - Dec 2 with 855 viewsBlueBadger

The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 18:34 - Dec 2 by Eireannach_gorm

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Looking at that, 75% seems to be the lowest point at which anything approaching herd immunity looks possible.

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The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 19:30 - Dec 2 with 811 viewsStokieBlue

The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 18:45 - Dec 2 by BlueBadger

Looking at that, 75% seems to be the lowest point at which anything approaching herd immunity looks possible.


Is herd immunity even possible? Given vaccinated people can get delta (and it looks more likely they can get Omicron easier) there virus will always be circulating in decent volumes thus if you aren't jabbed you are at risk of serious illness.

Herd immunity only works when the vaccinated population can't pass on the virus and thus the chances of the unvaccinated coming across it is very small.

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The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 19:34 - Dec 2 with 798 viewsNthsuffolkblue

The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 18:34 - Dec 2 by Eireannach_gorm

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Would be interesting to know more about the apparent outliers near the bottom. Are they very effectively locked down or under-reporting deaths or some other explanation?

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The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 20:32 - Dec 2 with 737 viewsTractorWood

The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 15:46 - Dec 2 by StokieBlue

If they are actual proper anti-vaxxers rather than contrarians then I would say it's almost pointless debating with them.

They are like the flat earthers who keep redesigning their own experiment because it keeps telling them the Earth is round.

Bonkers.

That is relatively harmless, unfortunately anti-vaxxers are extremely harmful.

SB


I saw a flat earthers documentary a few months ago. I thought the majority of people were quite endearing. Most of them were just lonely, stubborn and dim in different dilutions.

I know that was then, but it could be again..
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The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 20:36 - Dec 2 with 728 viewsStokieBlue

The Vaccine effect on saving lives on 20:32 - Dec 2 by TractorWood

I saw a flat earthers documentary a few months ago. I thought the majority of people were quite endearing. Most of them were just lonely, stubborn and dim in different dilutions.


Yep.

Mostly harmless.

Except the one fleecing them all.

SB
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