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Maybe they should be spending a little less time worrying about the London Mayor and a little more time looking inwards and worrying what a disturbing number of their own appear to be, as Dick put it, "bad 'uns".
Police Fed demonstrate the denial of your average copper... on 15:15 - Feb 14 by DanTheMan
Maybe they should be spending a little less time worrying about the London Mayor and a little more time looking inwards and worrying what a disturbing number of their own appear to be, as Dick put it, "bad 'uns".
What percentage is it exactly? The met has always had dodgy coppers. Probably more so in the past than now.
I think Cressida Dick did a decent job overall. Khan should keep his snout out and have nothing to do with choosing the next commisioner
Police Fed demonstrate the denial of your average copper... on 15:28 - Feb 14 by blueasfook
That was before she was commissioner.
She got given the job after the enquiry over that and was cleared.
Not saying that was a good idea but let's judge her in her role as commissioner
You can judge her how you want, as will others.
If you want to judge her solely on her record as commissioner I'd point to her "non apology" to the mother of two murdered women who had the indignity of knowing Met officers took selfies with the dead bodies and shared them with their colleagues.
Or the Met operation during the vigil of Sarah Everard.
Or the Met failing to investigate Downing St parties.
Or the institutional corruption found in the Met, a report that named her as partly responsible.
Or the fact that under her command, Charing Cross police officers shared some of the most vile messages ever reported.
You can troll all you want Blueas - but trolling isn't supposed to make the person doing it look like an idiot.
Some celebrated when the Police Federation had no confidence in Priti Patel last year. Some seem happy with their statement today.
I lost confidence in the Police Federation when I saw archived footage of their former Secretary for South Yorkshire (Paul Middup) in a Hillsborough documentary a few years back.
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Police Fed demonstrate the denial of your average copper... on 15:37 - Feb 14 with 1648 views
The Fed are seriously suggesting that the take home from the Charing Cross Police Station report is that we should all back off and give the Met some space?
Still, it's obviously good to hear him articulate a position which is effectively saying: "Just because we wear the same clothes as those criminal offenders, drive the same cars as them, and hang around in the same places as them, doesn't mean that you can prejudge us and think that we are the same as them."
So profiled stop and search will hopefully now be a thing of the past.
I'd love to know how many coppers have been deleting Whatsapp group chats in the past few weeks.
And how many more have been screenshotting the evidence for leverage over their colleagues in the future...
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Police Fed demonstrate the denial of your average copper... on 15:38 - Feb 14 with 1630 views
Police Fed demonstrate the denial of your average copper... on 15:35 - Feb 14 by EastTownBlue
Some celebrated when the Police Federation had no confidence in Priti Patel last year. Some seem happy with their statement today.
I lost confidence in the Police Federation when I saw archived footage of their former Secretary for South Yorkshire (Paul Middup) in a Hillsborough documentary a few years back.
Police Fed defending the indefensible? Surely not.
Police Fed demonstrate the denial of your average copper... on 15:37 - Feb 14 by ArnoldMoorhen
The Fed are seriously suggesting that the take home from the Charing Cross Police Station report is that we should all back off and give the Met some space?
Still, it's obviously good to hear him articulate a position which is effectively saying: "Just because we wear the same clothes as those criminal offenders, drive the same cars as them, and hang around in the same places as them, doesn't mean that you can prejudge us and think that we are the same as them."
So profiled stop and search will hopefully now be a thing of the past.
I'd love to know how many coppers have been deleting Whatsapp group chats in the past few weeks.
And how many more have been screenshotting the evidence for leverage over their colleagues in the future...
They really part of the problem imho. Every one knows not every copper is a bad un. But the issue is the culture of "Omerta" within policing.
And on that - not a word from the Police Fed. Not a word.
Police Fed demonstrate the denial of your average copper... on 15:34 - Feb 14 by bluelagos
You can judge her how you want, as will others.
If you want to judge her solely on her record as commissioner I'd point to her "non apology" to the mother of two murdered women who had the indignity of knowing Met officers took selfies with the dead bodies and shared them with their colleagues.
Or the Met operation during the vigil of Sarah Everard.
Or the Met failing to investigate Downing St parties.
Or the institutional corruption found in the Met, a report that named her as partly responsible.
Or the fact that under her command, Charing Cross police officers shared some of the most vile messages ever reported.
You can troll all you want Blueas - but trolling isn't supposed to make the person doing it look like an idiot.
Sarah Everard - That "vigil" was hijacked by anti-police protestors.
Downing St Parties - granted!
Institutional Corruption - Always been high in the met, long before Cressida Dick came along. Could she have done more to tackle it? But I think she has cleaned up the image of the met somewhat during her tenure
Charing Cross incident -Yes those messages are pretty horrendous but these were messages sent on their personal devices? How can the met commissioner be held responsible for that?
Police Fed demonstrate the denial of your average copper... on 15:46 - Feb 14 by blueasfook
Sarah Everard - That "vigil" was hijacked by anti-police protestors.
Downing St Parties - granted!
Institutional Corruption - Always been high in the met, long before Cressida Dick came along. Could she have done more to tackle it? But I think she has cleaned up the image of the met somewhat during her tenure
Charing Cross incident -Yes those messages are pretty horrendous but these were messages sent on their personal devices? How can the met commissioner be held responsible for that?
"Sarah Everard - That "vigil" was hijacked by anti-police protestors."
Was it? I might have missed it but I didn't see film of anyone attacking the police.
Police Fed demonstrate the denial of your average copper... on 15:15 - Feb 14 by DanTheMan
Maybe they should be spending a little less time worrying about the London Mayor and a little more time looking inwards and worrying what a disturbing number of their own appear to be, as Dick put it, "bad 'uns".
Personally I think a key issue (not the only one, but a very important one) is that the Met Commissioner's job is too big and with too many conflicting demands.
With direct accountability to the Home Secretary, the Commissioner is always going to be forced to give more attention to the national responsibility for Counter-Terrorism and to the policing of Central London. Part of the reason for the latter is all MPs live at least part of the time in Central London.
There needs to be a way to separate out some of these responsibilities so the Met Commissioner has the time to devote personally to changing the culture. Whatever Cressida's talents or otherwise as a police officer, I don't think she's an inspiring leader. And that's what I think the organisation needs. Somebody all the coppers will listen to.
Police Fed demonstrate the denial of your average copper... on 15:46 - Feb 14 by blueasfook
Sarah Everard - That "vigil" was hijacked by anti-police protestors.
Downing St Parties - granted!
Institutional Corruption - Always been high in the met, long before Cressida Dick came along. Could she have done more to tackle it? But I think she has cleaned up the image of the met somewhat during her tenure
Charing Cross incident -Yes those messages are pretty horrendous but these were messages sent on their personal devices? How can the met commissioner be held responsible for that?
Just as a bare minimum, if I (with no training whatsoever) had been put in charge of the policing of the Sarah Everard vigil, I would have made one very clear ground rule:
No male police officers are to manhandle female protesters at a vigil for a woman who was restrained and led away by a serving male police officer. Let the female police officers, only, make any physical interactions with female protesters.
Obviously the caveat "unless weapons are used" could be added. But they weren't.
And, yes, the Commissioner is responsible for the culture of an organisation in which Sarah Everard's murderer (I'm not going to say his name) passed enhanced psychological testing to be a firearms officer, in spite of his colleagues calling him "the rapist" because of the way that he made female colleagues feel uncomfortable. And in which selfies with murder victims are sent to a group chat for bants. And in which the Charing Cross messages were sent. They weren't "pretty horrendous", they included direct messages to a female officer saying that the individual would like to rape her.
This is (some of) the stuff that has come out so far.
Only in the Boris Johnson era can people at the top say "It's nothing to do with me!"
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Police Fed demonstrate the denial of your average copper... on 16:12 - Feb 14 with 1391 views
Police Fed demonstrate the denial of your average copper... on 15:46 - Feb 14 by blueasfook
Sarah Everard - That "vigil" was hijacked by anti-police protestors.
Downing St Parties - granted!
Institutional Corruption - Always been high in the met, long before Cressida Dick came along. Could she have done more to tackle it? But I think she has cleaned up the image of the met somewhat during her tenure
Charing Cross incident -Yes those messages are pretty horrendous but these were messages sent on their personal devices? How can the met commissioner be held responsible for that?
"...cleaned up the image of the Met..."
There's a difference between the image and the actual. She made it look cleaner rather than actually clean it. She polished a t*rd.
Don't believe a word I say. I'm only kidding. Or am I?
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