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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship 16:15 - Jun 5 with 3744 viewsBLUEBEAT

As an anti-Monarchist, I have obviously been watching a lot of TV coverage so I can moan and pick holes.

Imagine my glee when I noticed that the Northern Soul float sported several runic sigil Black Sun motifs. This is the symbol that was appropriated by Heinrich Himmler and the gnostic divisions of the SS. On a float celebrating the very best in black soul/R&B genres. What the actual fck?!?!




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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:29 - Jun 5 with 3090 viewsRyorry

Bloodyell, you're right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(symbol)

Apparently the pageant is unrehearsed as a whole, hence that's presumably how it escaped notice or checks.

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:38 - Jun 5 with 3048 viewsGlasgowBlue

Who the heck would have done that. Obviously Northern Soul fans whole way of life is to celebrate black music. I’ve been to loads of Northern and modern soul nights and never seen Nazi symbols or met a single person who held racist views.

Unfathomable.

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:41 - Jun 5 with 3026 viewsRyorry

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:38 - Jun 5 by GlasgowBlue

Who the heck would have done that. Obviously Northern Soul fans whole way of life is to celebrate black music. I’ve been to loads of Northern and modern soul nights and never seen Nazi symbols or met a single person who held racist views.

Unfathomable.


I'm guessing simply an error (or lack of awareness) probably.

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:44 - Jun 5 with 3002 viewsGlasgowBlue

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:41 - Jun 5 by Ryorry

I'm guessing simply an error (or lack of awareness) probably.


If it’s Northern soul enthusiasts then they already have their recognised symbols. The “Keep the Faith” clenched fist, the night owl etc.

They’d surely be standing their scratching the heads when they saw the float. Somebody must have built it.

This has pissed me off tbh.

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:49 - Jun 5 with 2961 viewsRyorry

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:44 - Jun 5 by GlasgowBlue

If it’s Northern soul enthusiasts then they already have their recognised symbols. The “Keep the Faith” clenched fist, the night owl etc.

They’d surely be standing their scratching the heads when they saw the float. Somebody must have built it.

This has pissed me off tbh.


I assume security must be tight, so no sabateur could get close enough to stick it on at the last mo?

Ed Sheeran being interviewed live right now, maybe he'll hold up an ITFC badge!

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:52 - Jun 5 with 2950 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:44 - Jun 5 by GlasgowBlue

If it’s Northern soul enthusiasts then they already have their recognised symbols. The “Keep the Faith” clenched fist, the night owl etc.

They’d surely be standing their scratching the heads when they saw the float. Somebody must have built it.

This has pissed me off tbh.


I cannot see that it will have been a mistake from whoever put it on there. How many people would recognise the symbol and what it stands for is a different question. It suggests that at least one person involved in the float knew exactly what they were doing and should be dealt with appropriately. It is a reminder that there are people with offensive views in many different places.

Perhaps BlueBeat could give some more information about where this float has appeared and who we could all complain to so that this is properly investigated and the individual identified and dealt with? (Apologies for my ignorance if it should be obvious from the OP but I can't see it.)

EDIT: I notice there is a Yorkshire part on the logo on there. This doesn't look quite the right people to contact, https://www.northernsoul.me.uk/contact/
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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:54 - Jun 5 with 2940 viewsJ2BLUE

I have a degree in history and spent most of the parts I got to choose on the Nazis. I wouldn't have a clue about this.

Truly impaired.
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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:57 - Jun 5 with 2911 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:54 - Jun 5 by J2BLUE

I have a degree in history and spent most of the parts I got to choose on the Nazis. I wouldn't have a clue about this.


One would assume the person who chose to use the symbol would know what they were using, though. It would seem highly plausible that no one else realised and so didn't question it.

Needs reporting in my opinion but the question is, who to?

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 17:00 - Jun 5 with 2918 viewsRozz

If you search for "Northern soul vector images" as you might do for a pixelation free large scale motif for a float, this symbol actually appears on the first page of results. The tags feature "northern" & "soul". It's been miscategorised, and appears in search results on various vector websites.

I think this is likely to be a mistake by someone looking for appropriate emblems and not doing their research.
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You have to assume that.... on 17:03 - Jun 5 with 2862 viewsBloots

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:44 - Jun 5 by GlasgowBlue

If it’s Northern soul enthusiasts then they already have their recognised symbols. The “Keep the Faith” clenched fist, the night owl etc.

They’d surely be standing their scratching the heads when they saw the float. Somebody must have built it.

This has pissed me off tbh.


...they "outsourced" the decoration of the float and someone has mixed up the black sun symbol and the Twisted Wheel symbol.

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 17:07 - Jun 5 with 2840 viewsBLUEBEAT

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 17:00 - Jun 5 by Rozz

If you search for "Northern soul vector images" as you might do for a pixelation free large scale motif for a float, this symbol actually appears on the first page of results. The tags feature "northern" & "soul". It's been miscategorised, and appears in search results on various vector websites.

I think this is likely to be a mistake by someone looking for appropriate emblems and not doing their research.


I truly hope this is the answer - very poor research.

If clutching at straws, could assume researchers thought it to be the Twisted Wheel logo from the legendary Manchester club.

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 17:12 - Jun 5 with 2801 viewsGlasgowBlue

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 17:00 - Jun 5 by Rozz

If you search for "Northern soul vector images" as you might do for a pixelation free large scale motif for a float, this symbol actually appears on the first page of results. The tags feature "northern" & "soul". It's been miscategorised, and appears in search results on various vector websites.

I think this is likely to be a mistake by someone looking for appropriate emblems and not doing their research.


Bloody hell you’re right. Quite a few of them. None of the actual Northern soul logos on the Northern soul vector images page.

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 17:14 - Jun 5 with 2770 viewsRozz

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I truly hope this is the answer - very poor research.

If clutching at straws, could assume researchers thought it to be the Twisted Wheel logo from the legendary Manchester club.


That would be the logical jump. There's no Black Sun in the few twisted wheel searches I tried, so unless they just assumed it was a notion to it? It's pretty different.

The same handful of designs are prominent under northern soul on even the biggest vector databases:

https://www.shutterstock.com/search/northern+soul?kw=vector%20images&c3apidt
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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 17:14 - Jun 5 with 2761 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 17:12 - Jun 5 by GlasgowBlue

Bloody hell you’re right. Quite a few of them. None of the actual Northern soul logos on the Northern soul vector images page.


How does this happen? Is it something to do with the search engine or someone uploading the symbol deliberately misidentified? Is there a way to get someone to put it right?

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 17:17 - Jun 5 with 2743 viewsRyorry

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 17:12 - Jun 5 by GlasgowBlue

Bloody hell you’re right. Quite a few of them. None of the actual Northern soul logos on the Northern soul vector images page.


I wonder who else apart from a set or two or sharp-eyes on TWTD forum noticed?!

I think as a collective, Phil & Gav's manor must be the best informed football forum in the UK

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 17:59 - Jun 5 with 2581 viewsRozz

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 17:14 - Jun 5 by Nthsuffolkblue

How does this happen? Is it something to do with the search engine or someone uploading the symbol deliberately misidentified? Is there a way to get someone to put it right?


The uploader enters a series of tags that make their designs easy to find. Some will spam tags that are searched often, or use really broad terms to generate hits on their designs.

See below tags for one of the designs in question:
color sphere image white vector object circle illustration set isolated shape sign sun abstract action solar symbol icon fire god religion culture magic ukraine north northern outline mascot soul Azov esoteric occult slavs scandinavians firstfire neophobia

It's just unfortunate that the 'Northern Soul' search returns such a small pool of results that these are prominent.

I think it would need to be flagged on each marketplace, either via an email or a report abuse function (which I couldn't find on Shutterstock).
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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 18:37 - Jun 5 with 2471 viewsBlueBadger

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 17:17 - Jun 5 by Ryorry

I wonder who else apart from a set or two or sharp-eyes on TWTD forum noticed?!

I think as a collective, Phil & Gav's manor must be the best informed football forum in the UK


Isn't that a bit like saying 'most competent cabinet member'?

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 19:13 - Jun 5 with 2381 viewsHARRY10

It'll soon be forgotten

Long after tonights all over
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It'll soon be forgotten

Long after tonights all over


Unlike the Paddington Bear sketch…still laughing now.

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 19:20 - Jun 5 with 2354 viewsGlasgowBlue

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It'll soon be forgotten

Long after tonights all over



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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 19:26 - Jun 5 with 2328 viewsHARRY10

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 19:56 - Jun 5 with 2268 viewsGuthrum

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 17:07 - Jun 5 by BLUEBEAT

I truly hope this is the answer - very poor research.

If clutching at straws, could assume researchers thought it to be the Twisted Wheel logo from the legendary Manchester club.


Would be similar to the council publicist from Birmingham who put a skyline photo of the city on promotional material ... only they'd picked one of the city in Alabama, not the West Midlands.

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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 20:04 - Jun 5 with 2240 viewsGlasgowBlue

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 19:26 - Jun 5 by HARRY10

It will, you'll see

as with us all

Time will pass you by


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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 20:49 - Jun 5 with 2166 viewsJDB23

Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 16:54 - Jun 5 by J2BLUE

I have a degree in history and spent most of the parts I got to choose on the Nazis. I wouldn't have a clue about this.


Nazi symbolism has been a hot topic recently due to being plastered all over pictures of Azov Batallion soldiers, pretty sure even the UN or similar tweeted a picture of one with a black sun before swiftly deleting it.
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Misplaced BLACK SUN Worship on 22:32 - Jun 5 with 2024 viewsjaykay

i was never a mod ( in fact the complete opposite ) but a nazi symbol on a parka instead of the r.a.f symbol would have soon been noticed. i believe someone with no idea a past youth culture decorated that float . then again i could be completely wrong

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