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Now the Chief Whip has gone 19:18 - Oct 19 with 2514 views

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:20 - Oct 19 with 1795 views

EastTownBlue

The fracking vote has turned out to be a bit of a mess

Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:33 - Oct 19 with 1741 views

HARRY10

backed into a corner on this one

The three line whip means many Tories will have voted in favour of something their constituents oppose, and maybe some of them do as well.

it was only on the matter of whether to hold a debate on fracking.

Righties 'cancelling' something, again. But at least they did not try to close Parliament to block democracy.

Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:37 - Oct 19 with 1723 views

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:38 - Oct 19 with 1711 views

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:37 - Oct 19 by Steve_M

Apparently, he's got photos.

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:40 - Oct 19 with 1679 views

Swansea_Blue

You're all laughing, but think how worse it could have been:

I'm fresh in from work and am only just seeing the fallout from today. It's almost daily now that this lot are in chaos. I especially like Braverman suggesting the Tories aren't going in the right direction for her. Who are? Britain First?

They're incompetence personified and bad news for all of us - even the most tribal believer must see this by now.

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:42 - Oct 19 with 1656 views

HARRY10

Ian Murray MP
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'I’ve never seen scenes like it at the entrance to a voting lobby. Tories on open warfare. Jostling and Rees Mogg shouting at his colleagues. Whips screaming at Tories.
They are done and should call a general election.
Two Tory whips dragging people in. Shocking.'

'Massive Tory row going on in the lobby, literally trying to force people through. Lots of anger'

Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:42 - Oct 19 with 1653 views

J2BLUE

Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:40 - Oct 19 by Swansea_Blue

You're all laughing, but think how worse it could have been:

They're incompetence personified and bad news for all of us - even the most tribal believer must see this by now.

Britain First? Woke bunch of tofu munchers.

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:43 - Oct 19 with 1644 views

DanTheMan

Also, I noticed Liz Truss abstained... Erm?

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:43 - Oct 19 with 1655 views

NthQldITFC

If this is true, surely that is a serious offence of some kind? I mean really serious. Certainly a direct attack on democracy akin to Trumpist actions isn't it?

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:45 - Oct 19 with 1624 views

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:43 - Oct 19 by DanTheMan
Also, I noticed Liz Truss abstained... Erm?

Did she abstain, or was she paired - opposite voting MPs agree to both miss the vote

Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:46 - Oct 19 with 1614 views

DanTheMan

Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:45 - Oct 19 by HARRY10
Did she abstain, or was she paired - opposite voting MPs agree to both miss the vote

Potentially. Just noticed her in the abstains when I was looking through.

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:47 - Oct 19 with 1613 views

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:47 - Oct 19 with 1609 views

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Deputy chief whip gone as well, what a bloody shambles.

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:47 - Oct 19 with 1598 views

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:43 - Oct 19 by DanTheMan
Also, I noticed Liz Truss abstained... Erm?

What, really !!?

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:48 - Oct 19 with 1578 views

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Apparently the Deputy Chief Whip has resigned too.

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:49 - Oct 19 with 1567 views

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:45 - Oct 19 by HARRY10
Did she abstain, or was she paired - opposite voting MPs agree to both miss the vote

I think it would have been a full-on abstention.

The messaging today from the Chief Whip stated that 'all slips are withdrawn', which would mean that no pairing would take place or be allowed.

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:50 - Oct 19 with 1549 views

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:47 - Oct 19 by DanTheMan
Deputy chief whip gone as well, what a bloody shambles.

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:50 - Oct 19 with 1541 views

EastTownBlue

Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:43 - Oct 19 by NthQldITFC
If this is true, surely that is a serious offence of some kind? I mean really serious. Certainly a direct attack on democracy akin to Trumpist actions isn't it?

Looks like Alex Stafford is the chap concerned and is in the middle of the group here

Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:51 - Oct 19 with 1522 views

Swansea_Blue

Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:43 - Oct 19 by NthQldITFC
If this is true, surely that is a serious offence of some kind? I mean really serious. Certainly a direct attack on democracy akin to Trumpist actions isn't it?

I've just seen something where an MP effectively said they were prepared to vote through fracking despite being against it, because that would mean they kept the whip, which in turn would mean their letter of no confidence against Truss lodged with Brady would still be on the table.

It's bonkers. The defining characteristic of the 2010s (and now 2020s) Tory premierships has been party (and self) above country. We need some sort of reset and some standards that are enforceable... a proper constitution...something that stops them going rogue and not doing what they are supposed to be doing.

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:55 - Oct 19 with 1480 views

HARRY10

The Telegraph
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2 minutes ago
'Wendy Morton resigns as Chief Whip in latest blow for PM
Wendy Morton resigned as Chief Whip tonight, the Telegraph understands, amid chaos over a vote on fracking.

Craig Whittaker, her deputy, is also understood to have quit.'

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 20:05 - Oct 19 with 1398 views

Swansea_Blue

Now the Chief Whip has gone on 19:50 - Oct 19 by Steve_M

What a mess. And it's no longer a confidence vote anymore as they can't afford the rebellion. She's got zero control. None whatsoever.

I don't see how she can stay. (I don't really see how the Tories should be allowed to stay either given the job they're doing, other than there's no way to get rid of them. But that's another story).

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 20:10 - Oct 19 with 1348 views

gtsb1966

Truss will be gone Friday, possibly tomorrow, and the whole sorry saga will trundle on.

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 20:18 - Oct 19 with 1257 views

Swansea_Blue

Now the Chief Whip has gone on 20:10 - Oct 19 by gtsb1966
Truss will be gone Friday, possibly tomorrow, and the whole sorry saga will trundle on. [Post edited 19 Oct 2022 20:13]

Trundle? Yeah, could do worse. He'll have some tricks up his sleeve and is less likely to score own goals.

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 20:21 - Oct 19 with 1220 views

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Just seen a report that the Minister for Resignations has just resigned.

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 20:22 - Oct 19 with 1214 views

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Now the Chief Whip has gone on 20:18 - Oct 19 by Swansea_Blue
Trundle? Yeah, could do worse. He'll have some tricks up his sleeve and is less likely to score own goals.

Good player wasn't he. I've just seen he is still playing.

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