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WTF? 15:47 - Dec 27 with 3225 viewsGlasgowBlue

Type Jew in google search bar

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WTF? on 15:53 - Dec 27 with 3173 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Before you tell us that you are shocked at it suggesting "Jewish Over 50 Milf up for fun", just take a moment to consider that we will each get different results based on our search history on Google and associated companies.

My top suggestion was "Jewson", presumably because I watched a couple of YouTube videos about the best fixings for lath and plaster.

Intrigued to know what caused the "WTF?" but probably best that you don't tell us!
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WTF? on 15:55 - Dec 27 with 3162 viewsJ2BLUE

WTF? on 15:53 - Dec 27 by ArnoldMoorhen

Before you tell us that you are shocked at it suggesting "Jewish Over 50 Milf up for fun", just take a moment to consider that we will each get different results based on our search history on Google and associated companies.

My top suggestion was "Jewson", presumably because I watched a couple of YouTube videos about the best fixings for lath and plaster.

Intrigued to know what caused the "WTF?" but probably best that you don't tell us!


Assume it's the dictionary definition which comes up:

jew
/dʒuː/
See definitions in:
All
People
Judaism
verb OFFENSIVE
bargain with someone in a miserly or petty way.

Truly impaired.
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WTF? on 15:56 - Dec 27 with 3149 viewsGlasgowBlue

WTF? on 15:53 - Dec 27 by ArnoldMoorhen

Before you tell us that you are shocked at it suggesting "Jewish Over 50 Milf up for fun", just take a moment to consider that we will each get different results based on our search history on Google and associated companies.

My top suggestion was "Jewson", presumably because I watched a couple of YouTube videos about the best fixings for lath and plaster.

Intrigued to know what caused the "WTF?" but probably best that you don't tell us!




how does this happen?
[Post edited 27 Dec 2022 15:58]

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WTF? on 16:02 - Dec 27 with 3060 viewsArnoldMoorhen

WTF? on 15:56 - Dec 27 by GlasgowBlue



how does this happen?
[Post edited 27 Dec 2022 15:58]


I think your WTF? was entirely justified, then!
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WTF? on 16:07 - Dec 27 with 3027 viewseireblue

Use DuckDuckGo and stick it to Google.
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WTF? on 16:24 - Dec 27 with 2902 viewsNthsuffolkblue

WTF? on 15:56 - Dec 27 by GlasgowBlue



how does this happen?
[Post edited 27 Dec 2022 15:58]


It needs to be put right and, if it has been pointed out to Google previously then they definitely should have changed their algorithms to prevent that happening.

EDITED to remove: "Isn't that the site that it is finding rather than Google itself, though?" It clearly isn't as Jeera points out. Something very wrong is going on here and GB is spot on with the OP.
[Post edited 27 Dec 2022 16:52]

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WTF? on 16:35 - Dec 27 with 2833 viewsDJR

WTF? on 15:56 - Dec 27 by GlasgowBlue



how does this happen?
[Post edited 27 Dec 2022 15:58]


That is extraordinarily awful, and the first thing that appears on Google, with no other definition of Jew.

Sadly, when I was growing up in Ipswich in the late 60s, the expression "Jewish" was used to describe someone as "mean", rather in the same way that Scottish people and people from Yorkshire were tarred with the same brush. At the time, I didn't know what a Jew was or what the the Jewish religious was, as there were (to my knowledge) no Jews in Ipswich. It was only later that I realised it was racist/derogatory.

I haven't heard it used in that sense for getting on for fifty years, and have never heard it used as a verb, although its use as a verb appears to derive from its use as an adjective.

I suppose there is an argument that a dictionary (such as the OED) should include meanings, whether or not derogatory, but they are then only open to people of, presumably, a more academic bent, and will usually be tucked away at the end of a list of definitions.

What is unforgivable here is that an organisation such as Google should give such prominence to this definition, but I wonder if it is a result of some sort of algorithm?

I might add that the CAA is an admirable pro-active organisation when it comes to fighting anti-semitism. I made a donation to them when they were being set up, and still get their weekly emails.

Finally, this confirms I am right not to use Google as my search engine.
[Post edited 27 Dec 2022 16:41]
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WTF? on 16:41 - Dec 27 with 2785 viewsNthsuffolkblue

WTF? on 16:35 - Dec 27 by DJR

That is extraordinarily awful, and the first thing that appears on Google, with no other definition of Jew.

Sadly, when I was growing up in Ipswich in the late 60s, the expression "Jewish" was used to describe someone as "mean", rather in the same way that Scottish people and people from Yorkshire were tarred with the same brush. At the time, I didn't know what a Jew was or what the the Jewish religious was, as there were (to my knowledge) no Jews in Ipswich. It was only later that I realised it was racist/derogatory.

I haven't heard it used in that sense for getting on for fifty years, and have never heard it used as a verb, although its use as a verb appears to derive from its use as an adjective.

I suppose there is an argument that a dictionary (such as the OED) should include meanings, whether or not derogatory, but they are then only open to people of, presumably, a more academic bent, and will usually be tucked away at the end of a list of definitions.

What is unforgivable here is that an organisation such as Google should give such prominence to this definition, but I wonder if it is a result of some sort of algorithm?

I might add that the CAA is an admirable pro-active organisation when it comes to fighting anti-semitism. I made a donation to them when they were being set up, and still get their weekly emails.

Finally, this confirms I am right not to use Google as my search engine.
[Post edited 27 Dec 2022 16:41]


Indeed. Bing links the common and acceptable definition from that same site with no mention of the archaic derogatory and racist one. Something is seriously wrong with the Google algorithm there to such an extent that you can understand the question being asked if it has been deliberately done by someone.

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WTF? on 16:47 - Dec 27 with 2700 viewsjeera

WTF? on 16:24 - Dec 27 by Nthsuffolkblue

It needs to be put right and, if it has been pointed out to Google previously then they definitely should have changed their algorithms to prevent that happening.

EDITED to remove: "Isn't that the site that it is finding rather than Google itself, though?" It clearly isn't as Jeera points out. Something very wrong is going on here and GB is spot on with the OP.
[Post edited 27 Dec 2022 16:52]


The issue being it's the first and only definition that's comes up on the Google search.

It's not like the genealogical answer comes up first, you have to look for that separately under 'people'.

The only suggestion on show is the offensive version as though that is first and foremost the meaning of the word 'Jew'.

Not acceptable at all and something there isn't right.

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WTF? on 17:32 - Dec 27 with 2480 viewsRyorry

WTF? on 15:53 - Dec 27 by ArnoldMoorhen

Before you tell us that you are shocked at it suggesting "Jewish Over 50 Milf up for fun", just take a moment to consider that we will each get different results based on our search history on Google and associated companies.

My top suggestion was "Jewson", presumably because I watched a couple of YouTube videos about the best fixings for lath and plaster.

Intrigued to know what caused the "WTF?" but probably best that you don't tell us!


Same here! (albeit 'Jewison' was in 2nd place for me - first was "Is Judaism a race or a religion?" via jewishunpacked.com; 3rd was "Jews" on wiki.

*Edit in light of other peoples' results which I hadn't read before posting mine - I had used Google to get mine.
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WTF? on 18:13 - Dec 27 with 2342 viewsDJR

WTF? on 17:32 - Dec 27 by Ryorry

Same here! (albeit 'Jewison' was in 2nd place for me - first was "Is Judaism a race or a religion?" via jewishunpacked.com; 3rd was "Jews" on wiki.

*Edit in light of other peoples' results which I hadn't read before posting mine - I had used Google to get mine.
[Post edited 27 Dec 2022 17:38]


It appears to have been corrected but an explanation is essential, given that the two organisations involved, Oxford Languages (who produce the OED) and Google, are supposedly reputable.

Personally, I would prosecute both for anti-semitism, because the item in question doesn't derive from some deranged social media account.

EDIT: I've just realised the same, single, offensive definition (from Wiktionary) now appears half-way down the first page. What the hell is going on?

FURTHER EDIT: The following article includes an explanation from Google, which includes the statement "We only display an offensive definition by default when it’s the main meaning of the term." They surely can't get away with this.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/googles-leading-definition-word-jew-showed-offensive-
[Post edited 27 Dec 2022 18:35]
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WTF? on 19:04 - Dec 27 with 2126 viewsbournemouthblue

WTF? on 16:47 - Dec 27 by jeera

The issue being it's the first and only definition that's comes up on the Google search.

It's not like the genealogical answer comes up first, you have to look for that separately under 'people'.

The only suggestion on show is the offensive version as though that is first and foremost the meaning of the word 'Jew'.

Not acceptable at all and something there isn't right.


In mine it's very much the genealogical and religion definitions until half way down where this dictionary definition comes up once and further down there's a Fox news article, kicking up a fuss about it

God knows what Google picks up in your Google search history which prioritise the dictionary definition, talked about above?
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WTF? on 19:18 - Dec 27 with 2052 viewsSwansea_Blue

Looks like it’s been corrected. It’ll have been some gremlin in an algorithm somewhere.

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WTF? on 19:49 - Dec 27 with 1923 viewsjeera

WTF? on 19:04 - Dec 27 by bournemouthblue

In mine it's very much the genealogical and religion definitions until half way down where this dictionary definition comes up once and further down there's a Fox news article, kicking up a fuss about it

God knows what Google picks up in your Google search history which prioritise the dictionary definition, talked about above?
[Post edited 27 Dec 2022 19:05]


It has been corrected since.

Clearly a lot of complaints came their way and they have acted.

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WTF? on 21:23 - Dec 27 with 1765 viewsNthsuffolkblue

WTF? on 18:13 - Dec 27 by DJR

It appears to have been corrected but an explanation is essential, given that the two organisations involved, Oxford Languages (who produce the OED) and Google, are supposedly reputable.

Personally, I would prosecute both for anti-semitism, because the item in question doesn't derive from some deranged social media account.

EDIT: I've just realised the same, single, offensive definition (from Wiktionary) now appears half-way down the first page. What the hell is going on?

FURTHER EDIT: The following article includes an explanation from Google, which includes the statement "We only display an offensive definition by default when it’s the main meaning of the term." They surely can't get away with this.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/googles-leading-definition-word-jew-showed-offensive-
[Post edited 27 Dec 2022 18:35]


It clearly wasn't the main definition as Bing was showing the common usage, inoffensive definition.

Google needs a better answer than that - one in which someone is held accountable.

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WTF? on 21:33 - Dec 27 with 1737 viewsbournemouthblue

WTF? on 19:49 - Dec 27 by jeera

It has been corrected since.

Clearly a lot of complaints came their way and they have acted.


However you tweak an algorithm to omit that

Google searches results are tailored to your search history so they will vary, as demonstrated in this thread

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WTF? on 21:48 - Dec 27 with 1706 viewsJ2BLUE

WTF? on 21:33 - Dec 27 by bournemouthblue

However you tweak an algorithm to omit that

Google searches results are tailored to your search history so they will vary, as demonstrated in this thread


What point are you making?

That something has gone wrong and the algorithm is broken or that we are all secretly nazis?

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WTF? on 00:39 - Dec 28 with 1474 viewsBasingstokeBlue

noun

a member of the people and cultural community whose traditional religion is Judaism and who trace their origins through the ancient Hebrew people of Israel to Abraham.

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WTF? on 00:39 - Dec 28 with 1473 viewsjeera

WTF? on 21:33 - Dec 27 by bournemouthblue

However you tweak an algorithm to omit that

Google searches results are tailored to your search history so they will vary, as demonstrated in this thread


I don't think you're understanding this.

We're talking about a dictionary definition that was coming up.

That's nothing to do with anyone's search history.

I like you Bournmouth so please kindly cut it out.
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