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Colin Viljoen 14:06 - Aug 21 with 3904 viewsgtsb1966

In all my 50 years of supporting Town I never knew he had played twice for England. You learn something new everyday.
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Colin Viljoen on 14:20 - Aug 21 with 3586 viewstrncbluearmy

So many internationals hard to keep track!

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Colin Viljoen on 14:23 - Aug 21 with 3557 viewsKeno

Just think with that record had he been a Norwich player he’d have a statue, they would have an annual open top tour on the days he got his caps and they would have named a stand after him before burning it down and rebuilding it
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Colin Viljoen on 14:29 - Aug 21 with 3506 viewstrncbluearmy

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Hope the one next to him isn't a surprise as well!
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Colin Viljoen on 15:29 - Aug 21 with 3266 viewsElephantintheRoom

Rather an odd claim. Next thing you’ll be claiming you blinked and missed Whymark’s England career (v Luxembourg)

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Colin Viljoen on 15:32 - Aug 21 with 3265 viewsmonty_radio

Colin Viljoen on 14:23 - Aug 21 by Keno

Just think with that record had he been a Norwich player he’d have a statue, they would have an annual open top tour on the days he got his caps and they would have named a stand after him before burning it down and rebuilding it
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A long-standing favourite who Robson himself nicknamed Ace (yes, I know, it was probably because he'd forgotten his real name). I'd be fine with a statue.

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Colin Viljoen on 15:50 - Aug 21 with 3185 viewsWickets

I remember it well .
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Colin Viljoen on 15:54 - Aug 21 with 3163 viewshoppy

Colin Viljoen on 14:29 - Aug 21 by trncbluearmy

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Hope the one next to him isn't a surprise as well!


Is that Phil Ham when he had hair?

Or did you mean that Hamilton chap on the left of the pic?

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Colin Viljoen on 16:38 - Aug 21 with 3021 viewslongtimefan

Colin Viljoen on 14:29 - Aug 21 by trncbluearmy

PS
Hope the one next to him isn't a surprise as well!


At least he's got a musical and a pub at Liverpool street named in his honour
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Colin Viljoen on 16:43 - Aug 21 with 2993 viewsChurchman

I saw him play one of them. The home international game at Wembley v Wales. I remember nothing about it but looking it up, it was a 2-2 draw.
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Colin Viljoen on 17:03 - Aug 21 with 2935 viewsfloridablue

Colin Viljoen on 16:43 - Aug 21 by Churchman

I saw him play one of them. The home international game at Wembley v Wales. I remember nothing about it but looking it up, it was a 2-2 draw.


I was there for that one as well. if memory serves me right, there was another couple of Town players in the line up. My next England game was when Mariner came on as a sub for his debut.
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Colin Viljoen on 17:29 - Aug 21 with 2858 viewsVic

Very classy player. I’d liken him to Gerry Frances.

Not sure I remember this correctly - but wasn’t he a bit troublesome in the changing room? Grumpy about the cup final, etc?

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Colin Viljoen on 17:54 - Aug 21 with 2775 viewsChampionsofInnsbruck

Colin Viljoen on 17:29 - Aug 21 by Vic

Very classy player. I’d liken him to Gerry Frances.

Not sure I remember this correctly - but wasn’t he a bit troublesome in the changing room? Grumpy about the cup final, etc?


He was selected to play, but the players revolted and voted him out of the team, so he moved to Manchester City. Robson rated him but he wasn’t popular with the players here.
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Colin Viljoen on 18:05 - Aug 21 with 2751 viewsPJH

Colin Viljoen on 17:54 - Aug 21 by ChampionsofInnsbruck

He was selected to play, but the players revolted and voted him out of the team, so he moved to Manchester City. Robson rated him but he wasn’t popular with the players here.


Not strictly true. He was selected to play at Villa the week before the Final with a view to him being in the Cup FInal side, but he was NOT selected to play at Wembley. The players made it clear that they did not want him in the team-they wanted Roger Osborne, and they got their way. He had not played a first team game since February prior to that game at Villa.
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Colin Viljoen on 18:52 - Aug 21 with 2651 viewsVic

Colin Viljoen on 18:05 - Aug 21 by PJH

Not strictly true. He was selected to play at Villa the week before the Final with a view to him being in the Cup FInal side, but he was NOT selected to play at Wembley. The players made it clear that they did not want him in the team-they wanted Roger Osborne, and they got their way. He had not played a first team game since February prior to that game at Villa.


Yep that’s kind of what I’ve picked up from snippets over the years. Bit of player revolt! Imagine how that would play out on social media now !!!

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Colin Viljoen on 19:07 - Aug 21 with 2602 viewsJohnTy

Colin Viljoen on 18:52 - Aug 21 by Vic

Yep that’s kind of what I’ve picked up from snippets over the years. Bit of player revolt! Imagine how that would play out on social media now !!!


One of my favourite all time players, but caused Robson some problems. I seem to recall that every day on his way to training he refused to pick up Derek Jefferson who was waiting at the bus stop! Those were indeed the days.
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Colin Viljoen on 19:09 - Aug 21 with 2590 viewsKeno

I believe his son posts on here from time to time

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Colin Viljoen on 21:10 - Aug 21 with 2433 viewsBluespeed225

Colin Viljoen on 17:29 - Aug 21 by Vic

Very classy player. I’d liken him to Gerry Frances.

Not sure I remember this correctly - but wasn’t he a bit troublesome in the changing room? Grumpy about the cup final, etc?


Always a bit arrogant, not a bad thing when your good, but leave it on the park. Was told the Afrikaan natural arrogance wasn’t well thought of in the dressing room. A time when teams had ‘schemers’. Johnny Giles being probably the best known, Magilton possibly our last?
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Colin Viljoen on 21:19 - Aug 21 with 2393 viewsMisterBlue

I believe the Cobbold's "employed" him as a gardener/grounds-person in order to get a work permit when he initially came over.

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Colin Viljoen by Lord_Lucan 22 May 2018 8:55
I started watching Ipswich late in 1975 and don't remember much about Viljoen, I think he must have been injured a lot?

Since the Blue Heaven thing I have been thinking about him. I always got the feeling that he never really mixed much with the rest of the team and was a bit aloof.

Anyone got any stories or comments on him?


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Colin Viljoen on 22:59 - Aug 21 with 2227 viewsLegendofthePhoenix

I started watching Town in 67 so very early in Viljoen's career, but then I was only 6. Although he was raved about by my Dad and lots of people, I have to admit I never really got it, although I was young and admired the goalscorers and exciting players - Brogan, Frank Clarke, Jimmy Robertson, Bryan Hamilton, Whymark, David Johnson, Beattie, etc. I guess if I was watching now, I'd appreciate what he did for the team - he must have been a busy and creative midfield dynamo, who kinda did the Morsy / Luongo role now - and Morsy is my favourite player now. But as a youngster, I just didn't see him as more than bread and butter. And he was unpopular - he had more than his share of difficult situations. Nowadays, he would do some interviews on Town TV and we'd all understand him much better. Back then , we just saw him as different and difficult. Clearly Robson saw what he brought to the team.

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Colin Viljoen on 23:27 - Aug 21 with 2171 viewsChurchman

Colin Viljoen on 22:59 - Aug 21 by LegendofthePhoenix

I started watching Town in 67 so very early in Viljoen's career, but then I was only 6. Although he was raved about by my Dad and lots of people, I have to admit I never really got it, although I was young and admired the goalscorers and exciting players - Brogan, Frank Clarke, Jimmy Robertson, Bryan Hamilton, Whymark, David Johnson, Beattie, etc. I guess if I was watching now, I'd appreciate what he did for the team - he must have been a busy and creative midfield dynamo, who kinda did the Morsy / Luongo role now - and Morsy is my favourite player now. But as a youngster, I just didn't see him as more than bread and butter. And he was unpopular - he had more than his share of difficult situations. Nowadays, he would do some interviews on Town TV and we'd all understand him much better. Back then , we just saw him as different and difficult. Clearly Robson saw what he brought to the team.


You forgot my early hero! Mop of black hair, the goal machine that was John O’Rourke. Scored every week when I first took an interest.

Viljoen was class. A real rolls royce player. Slightly stooped he glided around the pitch. Boy could he pass a ball. Could finish too. Smashing player. Well deserved his call up. He was a mainstay of Robson’s early/mid great teams.
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Colin Viljoen on 06:44 - Aug 22 with 1977 viewsVic

In the days before his decline into morbidity our resident king of the franchise wrote this excellent blog on CV. Oh for the days of such lucidity from him now!

https://www.twtd.co.uk/blogs/21819/john-cobbold’s-ace-gardener/

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Colin Viljoen on 09:42 - Aug 22 with 1732 viewsfarkenhell

Colin Viljoen on 06:44 - Aug 22 by Vic

In the days before his decline into morbidity our resident king of the franchise wrote this excellent blog on CV. Oh for the days of such lucidity from him now!

https://www.twtd.co.uk/blogs/21819/john-cobbold’s-ace-gardener/


That was a great read and very informative. My first game watching Ipswich was against Hartlepool in the FA Cup in early 1978. CV returned from a long term injury and I remember my Dad telling me that he was his favourite player. Made his and my day when we won 4-1 and Viljoen scored.
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Colin Viljoen on 10:26 - Aug 22 with 1674 viewsChampionsofInnsbruck

Colin Viljoen on 18:05 - Aug 21 by PJH

Not strictly true. He was selected to play at Villa the week before the Final with a view to him being in the Cup FInal side, but he was NOT selected to play at Wembley. The players made it clear that they did not want him in the team-they wanted Roger Osborne, and they got their way. He had not played a first team game since February prior to that game at Villa.


That what I was saying, in essence. Squads were smaller back then, with only one substitute, so it seems weird that talent like that would be left out in this day and age. Many who saw him regularly believe he is our best midfielder of all time.
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Colin Viljoen on 11:21 - Aug 22 with 1601 viewsyesjohn99

Colin Viljoen on 10:26 - Aug 22 by ChampionsofInnsbruck

That what I was saying, in essence. Squads were smaller back then, with only one substitute, so it seems weird that talent like that would be left out in this day and age. Many who saw him regularly believe he is our best midfielder of all time.


They must have missed Wark, Frans and Arnold then.
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Colin Viljoen on 12:04 - Aug 22 with 1548 viewsWhos_blue

Colin Viljoen on 11:21 - Aug 22 by yesjohn99

They must have missed Wark, Frans and Arnold then.


And Dougie.

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