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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me 14:05 - Dec 12 with 2678 viewsN2_Blue

WBA was tough but I think tonight is our toughest game so far.

Would be our biggest win based on their form and quality in the side and would make everyone look at us and say they ain’t going anywhere if they haven’t already

Take a draw now if given it but if we can win will be huge, although have everything crossed it’s only our biggest win of the season for 72 hours or so!!

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 14:14 - Dec 12 with 2471 viewsBigCommon

We'll make our chances. We've just got to take them.. Agree that its a tough fixture. If we came home with a point, its a decent result.... Think we'd all have taken 4pts from Boro and Watford away..... But this team just doesn't stop amazing us.. Crucially, we have a manager that can work some "in game" magic.. So we'll be giving it a go , I'm sure..
No need for any melt downs if things don't go our way, either..
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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 14:16 - Dec 12 with 2452 viewscressi

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 14:14 - Dec 12 by BigCommon

We'll make our chances. We've just got to take them.. Agree that its a tough fixture. If we came home with a point, its a decent result.... Think we'd all have taken 4pts from Boro and Watford away..... But this team just doesn't stop amazing us.. Crucially, we have a manager that can work some "in game" magic.. So we'll be giving it a go , I'm sure..
No need for any melt downs if things don't go our way, either..


Every game 3 puts so every game as big as the next one.
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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 14:17 - Dec 12 with 2441 viewscressi

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 14:16 - Dec 12 by cressi

Every game 3 puts so every game as big as the next one.


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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 15:05 - Dec 12 with 2306 viewspennblue

They do seem well oiled. I am sure we can smash them if we are on our game, but there is the challenge, being on your game, relentlessly each game is not easy.

All we can do is sing for 90 minutes as loudly as we can. If we do, we will give ourselves a decent chance whatever happens on the pitch.

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 15:11 - Dec 12 with 2253 viewsbilllm

Agree, but draw at best tonight,
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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 15:16 - Dec 12 with 2210 viewsFrimleyBlue

I agree with you.

Despite having a seriously good season. And only losing 2. We've not won games against sides in certain forms.

We couldn't beat Rotherham who had good home form
Couldn't beat brom who were on form (now not)
And now we face watford who again have form.

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 15:31 - Dec 12 with 2151 viewsVaughan8

Yes Watford haven't lost in a while, but they've had a few draws.

ALso last 5 games (3 w, 2 D) home games have been against Sheff Wed, Millwall, Rotherham, Norwich and Southampton. Only Southampton are really any good.

Unlike in League one, if we don't turn up then any team in this league can beat us. If we do turn up, then it'll be difficult for teams to beat us.....!
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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 16:42 - Dec 12 with 1953 viewsSwansea_Blue

I'm not convinced about our chances tonight. But this could be a classic case of judging the name/expectation rather than the current Watford team itself. With parachute money they should be a in a position to challenge for promotion, but as has been said their home form is against relatively poor sides. They're a bit of an up and down side, so who knows how it'll play out.

I'm not sure whether I'm imagining it, but KM seems to getting some early excuses in. Reverse psychology maybe?

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 17:00 - Dec 12 with 1894 viewsBloomBlue

Didn't some fans say the same before the Boro game?
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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 17:20 - Dec 12 with 1841 viewsericclacton

As Bruce Foreskin used to say points mean prizes.
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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 17:39 - Dec 12 with 1767 viewsDyland

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 14:17 - Dec 12 by cressi

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 17:51 - Dec 12 with 1714 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 15:16 - Dec 12 by FrimleyBlue

I agree with you.

Despite having a seriously good season. And only losing 2. We've not won games against sides in certain forms.

We couldn't beat Rotherham who had good home form
Couldn't beat brom who were on form (now not)
And now we face watford who again have form.


Middlesborough were in decent form, they'd not long ago beaten Leicester.
Hull were in decent form when we spanked them 3-0 (they'd won at Stoke and Leicester, drawn v Leeds and Cov, before playing us).

We won at Sunderland on the opening day, who had been in the playoffs the previous season, though it's difficult to argue that as decent form when it's the opening game of the season.

But seriously, why do we always need these nitpicking caveats? We've been nothing short of incredible. The only team who has been in better form than us we haven't played yet!

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Yeh well you can prove anything with Facts, smararse on 18:08 - Dec 12 with 1646 viewsDyland

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 17:51 - Dec 12 by The_Flashing_Smile

Middlesborough were in decent form, they'd not long ago beaten Leicester.
Hull were in decent form when we spanked them 3-0 (they'd won at Stoke and Leicester, drawn v Leeds and Cov, before playing us).

We won at Sunderland on the opening day, who had been in the playoffs the previous season, though it's difficult to argue that as decent form when it's the opening game of the season.

But seriously, why do we always need these nitpicking caveats? We've been nothing short of incredible. The only team who has been in better form than us we haven't played yet!


Well, here's a FACT for you smartypants. We've only beaten teams below us in the table. Eh eh. Brainfart your way out of THAT one, dickwad.

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 18:11 - Dec 12 with 1625 viewsmrfixit426

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 15:16 - Dec 12 by FrimleyBlue

I agree with you.

Despite having a seriously good season. And only losing 2. We've not won games against sides in certain forms.

We couldn't beat Rotherham who had good home form
Couldn't beat brom who were on form (now not)
And now we face watford who again have form.


Jesus wept.
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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 18:14 - Dec 12 with 1597 viewsFrimleyBlue

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 17:51 - Dec 12 by The_Flashing_Smile

Middlesborough were in decent form, they'd not long ago beaten Leicester.
Hull were in decent form when we spanked them 3-0 (they'd won at Stoke and Leicester, drawn v Leeds and Cov, before playing us).

We won at Sunderland on the opening day, who had been in the playoffs the previous season, though it's difficult to argue that as decent form when it's the opening game of the season.

But seriously, why do we always need these nitpicking caveats? We've been nothing short of incredible. The only team who has been in better form than us we haven't played yet!


Not sure what the first game of the season has to do with anything bizarre.

My point in the reply to the OP was the form of certain sides who we hadn't beaten.. Rotherham who had a solid home form. Watford appear to be another. We haven't cracked those types of form.
No nitpicking going on. End of the day you're not going to win every game just saying in response to the OP why I'd be extra chuffed with a win tonight as it would be a win against a side who have been difficult to beat at home this season. But not surprised you're taking it as being overly negative when it's not.

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 18:20 - Dec 12 with 1580 viewsITFCson

Just need to look at the odds for this fixture to see this take is clearly incorrect. We were outsiders vs WBA and significant outsiders vs Middlesbrough. However tonight we are clear favourites to win.
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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 18:29 - Dec 12 with 1535 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 18:14 - Dec 12 by FrimleyBlue

Not sure what the first game of the season has to do with anything bizarre.

My point in the reply to the OP was the form of certain sides who we hadn't beaten.. Rotherham who had a solid home form. Watford appear to be another. We haven't cracked those types of form.
No nitpicking going on. End of the day you're not going to win every game just saying in response to the OP why I'd be extra chuffed with a win tonight as it would be a win against a side who have been difficult to beat at home this season. But not surprised you're taking it as being overly negative when it's not.


You said, "We've not won games against sides in certain forms."

I've just shown you two of our wins were against in-form teams (first game of the season was just a throwaway comment).

Repeating what you've already said doesn't make it any more true.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 18:32 - Dec 12 with 1503 viewsFrimleyBlue

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 18:29 - Dec 12 by The_Flashing_Smile

You said, "We've not won games against sides in certain forms."

I've just shown you two of our wins were against in-form teams (first game of the season was just a throwaway comment).

Repeating what you've already said doesn't make it any more true.


Yes. 'Certain forms'. Thought I'd made it clear I was talking about home forms when I mentioned rotherham and theirs. Plus brom and the fact we are away to Watford tonight

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 18:44 - Dec 12 with 1451 viewsMK1

15 wins already in the bag. Each as important as the last and the next.

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 18:47 - Dec 12 with 1421 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 18:32 - Dec 12 by FrimleyBlue

Yes. 'Certain forms'. Thought I'd made it clear I was talking about home forms when I mentioned rotherham and theirs. Plus brom and the fact we are away to Watford tonight


Middlesbrough's home form was decent. Their two home games before us were a 4-0 win v Preston and a 1-0 win v Leicester.

Rotherham's home games before playing us were a 1-1 draw v Preston, a 1-2 loss to Bristol City, a 2-0 win v Coventry and a 1-1 draw v QPR. Hardly setting the world alight in comparison to Middlesbrough.

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 18:59 - Dec 12 with 1362 viewsFrimleyBlue

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 18:47 - Dec 12 by The_Flashing_Smile

Middlesbrough's home form was decent. Their two home games before us were a 4-0 win v Preston and a 1-0 win v Leicester.

Rotherham's home games before playing us were a 1-1 draw v Preston, a 1-2 loss to Bristol City, a 2-0 win v Coventry and a 1-1 draw v QPR. Hardly setting the world alight in comparison to Middlesbrough.


Hmm fair play. Was baseing in across the season so far rather than on the run up to the game itself. But still good result that boro one then more than I had thought.

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 19:11 - Dec 12 with 1335 viewsMK1

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 18:29 - Dec 12 by The_Flashing_Smile

You said, "We've not won games against sides in certain forms."

I've just shown you two of our wins were against in-form teams (first game of the season was just a throwaway comment).

Repeating what you've already said doesn't make it any more true.


Why do you bother with him? It always ends the same way.

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 19:11 - Dec 12 with 1326 viewsFrimleyBlue

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 19:11 - Dec 12 by MK1

Why do you bother with him? It always ends the same way.


A good discussion between two posters. Yes how terrible.

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 19:22 - Dec 12 with 1286 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 18:59 - Dec 12 by FrimleyBlue

Hmm fair play. Was baseing in across the season so far rather than on the run up to the game itself. But still good result that boro one then more than I had thought.


But anyway, yeah, very tough game tonight, no doubt about it. All the travelling doesn't help as well.

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Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 19:25 - Dec 12 with 1261 viewsFrimleyBlue

Win tonight and it’s the biggest win of the season for me on 19:22 - Dec 12 by The_Flashing_Smile

But anyway, yeah, very tough game tonight, no doubt about it. All the travelling doesn't help as well.


I'll be chuffed with a win. But think we will get draw but so will Leeds :)

Coyb!

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