| With the season coming to a head 09:35 - Apr 7 with 1624 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
We are in a great position for automatic promotion.
If we get over the line what are your expectations for us in the Premier League next season based on what we experienced the previous promotion?
I think there will be a lot of lessons learned and with a more rounded squad there is a greater chance to stay up.
In saying this we would need to recruit in some more athletic players a good few of them to cope with the pace and strength of the other teams. |  | | |  |
| With the season coming to a head on 09:40 - Apr 7 with 1410 views | tonybied |
I hope for comfortable survival. My expectations are that it'll be another tough season, but that we should make a slightly better fist of it, with a good chance of surviving on the last day. |  | | |
| With the season coming to a head on 09:50 - Apr 7 with 1359 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Literally impossible to say without seeing our transfer business.
We will certainly have a better bench this time, but that starting 11 needs serious, serious work. |  |
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| With the season coming to a head on 09:55 - Apr 7 with 1333 views | Metal_Hacker |
Yeah I know and I'm sorry .........BUT let's get there first |  |
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| With the season coming to a head on 09:56 - Apr 7 with 1327 views | melonhead |
I’m struggling to think who in our current squad/team would cut it in the premier league maybe OShea ,Davis but after that i don’t really know. | | | |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:01 - Apr 7 with 1285 views | vilanovablue |
| With the season coming to a head on 09:56 - Apr 7 by melonhead |
I’m struggling to think who in our current squad/team would cut it in the premier league maybe OShea ,Davis but after that i don’t really know. |
Well Matusiwa feels an upgrade on Morsy and also more prem ready. |  | | |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:02 - Apr 7 with 1269 views | melonhead |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:01 - Apr 7 by vilanovablue |
Well Matusiwa feels an upgrade on Morsy and also more prem ready. |
Yeah sorry forgot about him but that’s it . | | | |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:08 - Apr 7 with 1223 views | Guthrum |
I think we may find recruitment slightly easier than two summers ago. There's a bit of Prem recognition, we haven't just appeared all the way from L1. We'll have shown the ability to come back. Might encourage more players to consider Ipswich, more agents prepared to give us a shot. |  |
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| With the season coming to a head on 10:09 - Apr 7 with 1207 views | Blue_Heath |
| With the season coming to a head on 09:55 - Apr 7 by Metal_Hacker |
Yeah I know and I'm sorry .........BUT let's get there first |
100%, let's discuss that if it happens. | |
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| With the season coming to a head on 10:18 - Apr 7 with 1168 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:08 - Apr 7 by Guthrum |
I think we may find recruitment slightly easier than two summers ago. There's a bit of Prem recognition, we haven't just appeared all the way from L1. We'll have shown the ability to come back. Might encourage more players to consider Ipswich, more agents prepared to give us a shot. |
Great point, we will have built up larger networks and relationships with agents so will be offered players we did not have access to the last time round. | | | |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:23 - Apr 7 with 1133 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:01 - Apr 7 by vilanovablue |
Well Matusiwa feels an upgrade on Morsy and also more prem ready. |
O Shea, Davies and Matisuwa to start.
We would need a loaned in PL ready striker minimum then we have the spine of the team.
GK department is a worry, our best goalie is in Serie A!
Would not be surprised if we will go for the Millwall right sided player and loan out SWE to a play off chasing champ club.
Left side Jaden and Clarke are arguably where they want to be, so they have everything to prove.
All the rest to get to get minutes here and there, many to leave or be loaned out.
Can Furlong do a job in the PL, possibly, he has been there before. | | | |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:24 - Apr 7 with 1128 views | _CliveBaker_ |
Certainly still a big if given the games we have ahead of us, but there's no doubt we're in a really good position now. We effectively need to match or better both Boro and Wall's points from their final 5 games, in our 7. They're all big games, but I think the next 3 will go a long way to determining our season, what with the Derby coming up, then 1 of the games in hand, then Boro. 7 points from those and there's a very good chance we'll then be going into final 4 in a position where 2 wins could be enough. Only Millwall getting 5/5 would stop us at that point.
IF we go up I think we'll certainly be starting from a higher base. When you consider we could be looking at the likes of Greaves, Cajuste, Philogene, Mehmeti as bench options vs. Edmundson, Harness, Luongo, Szmodics, Al-Hamadi etc. No disrespect to those, but the bench on Game 1 vs. the bench against Liverpool in August 2024 could be worlds apart.
We will obviously recruit, and we need to recruit much better than last time. I'd like to see us invest in a few more proven players at that level. Its easier said than done but I didn't like the signings of Ogbene / Szmodics etc last time, there's generally a reason players in their mid to late 20's have spent the vast majority of their careers in L1 and the Championship, and adding those to a core who had similar experience felt a bit desperate to me. I'd love 3 or 4 with 100 appearances at that level behind them, players who know what Premier League football looks like. I'm not expecting world class players, but a few through the spine of the team in the ilk of Ward-Prowse, Cairney, Wilson. Michael Keane is out of contract at Everton, perhaps an unlikely one, but I'd like to see us sign a few experienced players who maybe command a bigger wage but less of a transfer fee and resale value. We've got a core who deserve the chance or another chance there - O'Shea, Davis, Greaves, Matusiwa, Philogene, Clarke etc. We'll need a #1 keeper, probably 8 or 9 signings, but we'll struggle to recruit from the Championship and sign players better than we've got (Hackney aside probably).
It has to be a question of fewer and better this time around. |  | | |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:30 - Apr 7 with 1087 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:23 - Apr 7 by WolfieAtTheBack |
O Shea, Davies and Matisuwa to start.
We would need a loaned in PL ready striker minimum then we have the spine of the team.
GK department is a worry, our best goalie is in Serie A!
Would not be surprised if we will go for the Millwall right sided player and loan out SWE to a play off chasing champ club.
Left side Jaden and Clarke are arguably where they want to be, so they have everything to prove.
All the rest to get to get minutes here and there, many to leave or be loaned out.
Can Furlong do a job in the PL, possibly, he has been there before. |
Can Furlong do a job in the PL, possibly, he has been there before.
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| With the season coming to a head on 10:30 - Apr 7 with 1086 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:24 - Apr 7 by _CliveBaker_ |
Certainly still a big if given the games we have ahead of us, but there's no doubt we're in a really good position now. We effectively need to match or better both Boro and Wall's points from their final 5 games, in our 7. They're all big games, but I think the next 3 will go a long way to determining our season, what with the Derby coming up, then 1 of the games in hand, then Boro. 7 points from those and there's a very good chance we'll then be going into final 4 in a position where 2 wins could be enough. Only Millwall getting 5/5 would stop us at that point.
IF we go up I think we'll certainly be starting from a higher base. When you consider we could be looking at the likes of Greaves, Cajuste, Philogene, Mehmeti as bench options vs. Edmundson, Harness, Luongo, Szmodics, Al-Hamadi etc. No disrespect to those, but the bench on Game 1 vs. the bench against Liverpool in August 2024 could be worlds apart.
We will obviously recruit, and we need to recruit much better than last time. I'd like to see us invest in a few more proven players at that level. Its easier said than done but I didn't like the signings of Ogbene / Szmodics etc last time, there's generally a reason players in their mid to late 20's have spent the vast majority of their careers in L1 and the Championship, and adding those to a core who had similar experience felt a bit desperate to me. I'd love 3 or 4 with 100 appearances at that level behind them, players who know what Premier League football looks like. I'm not expecting world class players, but a few through the spine of the team in the ilk of Ward-Prowse, Cairney, Wilson. Michael Keane is out of contract at Everton, perhaps an unlikely one, but I'd like to see us sign a few experienced players who maybe command a bigger wage but less of a transfer fee and resale value. We've got a core who deserve the chance or another chance there - O'Shea, Davis, Greaves, Matusiwa, Philogene, Clarke etc. We'll need a #1 keeper, probably 8 or 9 signings, but we'll struggle to recruit from the Championship and sign players better than we've got (Hackney aside probably).
It has to be a question of fewer and better this time around. |
Hackney would be an ideal signing. | | | |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:47 - Apr 7 with 1028 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:24 - Apr 7 by _CliveBaker_ |
Certainly still a big if given the games we have ahead of us, but there's no doubt we're in a really good position now. We effectively need to match or better both Boro and Wall's points from their final 5 games, in our 7. They're all big games, but I think the next 3 will go a long way to determining our season, what with the Derby coming up, then 1 of the games in hand, then Boro. 7 points from those and there's a very good chance we'll then be going into final 4 in a position where 2 wins could be enough. Only Millwall getting 5/5 would stop us at that point.
IF we go up I think we'll certainly be starting from a higher base. When you consider we could be looking at the likes of Greaves, Cajuste, Philogene, Mehmeti as bench options vs. Edmundson, Harness, Luongo, Szmodics, Al-Hamadi etc. No disrespect to those, but the bench on Game 1 vs. the bench against Liverpool in August 2024 could be worlds apart.
We will obviously recruit, and we need to recruit much better than last time. I'd like to see us invest in a few more proven players at that level. Its easier said than done but I didn't like the signings of Ogbene / Szmodics etc last time, there's generally a reason players in their mid to late 20's have spent the vast majority of their careers in L1 and the Championship, and adding those to a core who had similar experience felt a bit desperate to me. I'd love 3 or 4 with 100 appearances at that level behind them, players who know what Premier League football looks like. I'm not expecting world class players, but a few through the spine of the team in the ilk of Ward-Prowse, Cairney, Wilson. Michael Keane is out of contract at Everton, perhaps an unlikely one, but I'd like to see us sign a few experienced players who maybe command a bigger wage but less of a transfer fee and resale value. We've got a core who deserve the chance or another chance there - O'Shea, Davis, Greaves, Matusiwa, Philogene, Clarke etc. We'll need a #1 keeper, probably 8 or 9 signings, but we'll struggle to recruit from the Championship and sign players better than we've got (Hackney aside probably).
It has to be a question of fewer and better this time around. |
The problem with the players you've listed and appreciate you are using them as an example as opposed to them specifically. But they are all past their physical peak. I genuinely believe you are better going to France or other European nations and taking guys who can physically handle themselves against premier league opposition.
Sunderland nailed their European recruitment, you never see Sunderland get bullied. That has to be the priority imo. Create a team who wont get pushed around so easily like we did last time. Especially in midfield. | |
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| With the season coming to a head on 11:07 - Apr 7 with 954 views | lazyblue |
We will have to purchase half a team of athletic giants to have any chance. | | | |
| With the season coming to a head on 11:17 - Apr 7 with 932 views | BloomBlue |
Sensible expectations from the fans. Too many had us in the top 10 expectations last time.
Survive relegation and then continue evolving.
We will need to change the squad, but for every Sunderland who did a complete rebuild there is a Brentford who went with 80% of their championship squad and survived. Even when we played Brentford last season they were starting games with 4 or 5 players who played for them in the championship and Brentford is an established Prem team now using that continuation / slow evolving model. |  | | |
| With the season coming to a head on 11:20 - Apr 7 with 907 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:30 - Apr 7 by WolfieAtTheBack |
Hackney would be an ideal signing. |
Hackney would be the best signing we can make if the model is go up then go down repeat.
Hackney in our team in the championship would have seen us up by now. | | | |
| With the season coming to a head on 11:26 - Apr 7 with 877 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| With the season coming to a head on 10:47 - Apr 7 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
The problem with the players you've listed and appreciate you are using them as an example as opposed to them specifically. But they are all past their physical peak. I genuinely believe you are better going to France or other European nations and taking guys who can physically handle themselves against premier league opposition.
Sunderland nailed their European recruitment, you never see Sunderland get bullied. That has to be the priority imo. Create a team who wont get pushed around so easily like we did last time. Especially in midfield. |
I don't disagree but I think it needs to be a mix of both. At the risk of going full Alan Hansen we're desperately lacking premier league know how, as we were last season. And those we do have probably have far more scars than positive experiences. We need to strike the right blend of raw pace & physicality, value, continuity and experience. Xhaka is arguably Sunderland's signing of the season. 33, certainly past his peak, but spent his career at the top level and just takes them up a level entirely.
You could argue Phillips was meant to be that last season, but for various reasons he just never got going. I really would like 3 of that ilk in the squad. O'Shea and Johnson are probably (I would guess) our only 2 players with 50+ appearances at PL level as it stands. And Johnson was never really a regular, just a cheap academy squad player really. The Myles Kenlock of West Ham. [Post edited 7 Apr 11:28]
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| With the season coming to a head on 11:31 - Apr 7 with 837 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| With the season coming to a head on 11:26 - Apr 7 by _CliveBaker_ |
I don't disagree but I think it needs to be a mix of both. At the risk of going full Alan Hansen we're desperately lacking premier league know how, as we were last season. And those we do have probably have far more scars than positive experiences. We need to strike the right blend of raw pace & physicality, value, continuity and experience. Xhaka is arguably Sunderland's signing of the season. 33, certainly past his peak, but spent his career at the top level and just takes them up a level entirely.
You could argue Phillips was meant to be that last season, but for various reasons he just never got going. I really would like 3 of that ilk in the squad. O'Shea and Johnson are probably (I would guess) our only 2 players with 50+ appearances at PL level as it stands. And Johnson was never really a regular, just a cheap academy squad player really. The Myles Kenlock of West Ham. [Post edited 7 Apr 11:28]
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I agree. Seems unlikely but your Michael Keane shout for an example would be a really good one. | |
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| With the season coming to a head on 12:53 - Apr 7 with 709 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Chris Waddle has us to go up but doubts we have to money to spend what Sunderland spent, which oddly he puts at £300m as covered by the EADT.
I make it close to £200m but even so it shows that Waddle doesn’t understand our ownership. If we go up, I can see the club taking more risks with top flight players from across Europe and the Premier League, someone jokingly mentioned Trippier but I can see us going in for one or two like that as Sunderland did. |  |
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| With the season coming to a head on 12:55 - Apr 7 with 702 views | SomethingBlue |
We would be technically be far closer to the level than two years ago and would presumably recruit with athleticism more firmly in mind to bridge the gap in that area. I think we'd do better than many on here expect but let's get there first, the next month will be an unholy dogfight. [Post edited 7 Apr 12:57]
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| With the season coming to a head on 12:56 - Apr 7 with 691 views | GlasgowBlue |
The starting eleven will have to be almost unrecognisable from the team wch started yesterday.
We will have to go down the Sunderland route. |  |
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| With the season coming to a head on 13:04 - Apr 7 with 650 views | ParisBlue |
Most of our squad are under contract until 2027 at least, so as well as a heap of incomings they'd need to be a heap of outgoings.
Not having Liverpool and Man City as your first 2 games helps. To stay up you need to start well, stack up a few points in the first 10 games. That's what Sunderland did (and Leeds to a lesser extent), before the inevitable drop back. |  |
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| With the season coming to a head on 13:39 - Apr 7 with 575 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| With the season coming to a head on 13:04 - Apr 7 by ParisBlue |
Most of our squad are under contract until 2027 at least, so as well as a heap of incomings they'd need to be a heap of outgoings.
Not having Liverpool and Man City as your first 2 games helps. To stay up you need to start well, stack up a few points in the first 10 games. That's what Sunderland did (and Leeds to a lesser extent), before the inevitable drop back. |
There are quite a few easy outgoings though. Young, Button, & Burns are currently in the 25 but out of contract and likely to go, with Azon and Neil on loan with no obligation. That's 5 of the existing squad, Baggott probably goes as well to make 6.
Outside of that, while not in the 25 we'll have Townsend, Chaplin, Humphreys, Al Hamadi, Muric, Ogbene, Szmodics, Harry Clarke, Slicker all likely to leave.
Then some question marks over a few of those we're obliged to sign / existing players. Wouldn't be surprised if Akpom and Cajuste deals get done with a view to them going straight out on loan. I think Palmer could go as well. I'd be surprised if more than about 16 of the current 25 man squad are registered next season.
Agree about the fast start, that was very kind for Sunderland and they've ridden the crest of that for long enough to keep them out of trouble all season. | | | |
| With the season coming to a head on 15:26 - Apr 7 with 495 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| With the season coming to a head on 13:39 - Apr 7 by _CliveBaker_ |
There are quite a few easy outgoings though. Young, Button, & Burns are currently in the 25 but out of contract and likely to go, with Azon and Neil on loan with no obligation. That's 5 of the existing squad, Baggott probably goes as well to make 6.
Outside of that, while not in the 25 we'll have Townsend, Chaplin, Humphreys, Al Hamadi, Muric, Ogbene, Szmodics, Harry Clarke, Slicker all likely to leave.
Then some question marks over a few of those we're obliged to sign / existing players. Wouldn't be surprised if Akpom and Cajuste deals get done with a view to them going straight out on loan. I think Palmer could go as well. I'd be surprised if more than about 16 of the current 25 man squad are registered next season.
Agree about the fast start, that was very kind for Sunderland and they've ridden the crest of that for long enough to keep them out of trouble all season. |
Is there a conversation where Kipre stays on? | | | |
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