| Remaining in and outs? 07:29 - Sep 1 with 2427 views | LegendofthePhoenix | Hopefully Flemming incoming is all but done. The really obvious gap for me is RB - we need a dedicated 1st choice RB so that Dara can play in his proper position, and Darnell provides cover. Are we loaning or selling Alex Palmer? Not sure how happy he would be to be 3rd choice. Then there's Mehmeti and Taylor. If those 3 go out, we still have 2 squad places left after getting Flemming and a RB (but presumably Button would be 3rd choice keeper, leaving one more squad place) . I'd like to see another CB - we get through them during a season what with suspensions and injuries. Not sure I want to see Kipre up against some of the attackers in the Prem. Pos Count Surname 1st Name GK1 1 Scherpen Kjell GK2 1 Walton Christian GK3 1 Button David RB1 1 RB2 1 Furlong Darnell LB1 1 Davis Leif LB2 0 Outtara Abdoul CB1 1 O'Shea Dara CB2 1 Diop Issa CB3 1 Greaves Jacob CB4 1 Kipre Cedric CM1 1 Palacios Exequiel CM2 1 Lukic Sasa CM3 1 Florentina Luis CM4 1 Matusiwa Azor CM5 1 Nunez Marcelino RW1 1 Fatawu Abdul RW2 1 McAteer Casey LW1 1 Maeda Daizen LW2 1 Clarke Jack LW3 1 Philiogene Jaden No10 1 1 Enciso Julio No10 2 0 Egeli Sindre Walle CF1 1 Flemming Zian CF2 1 Emersonn CF3 1 Akpom Chuba Total 24 [Post edited 1 Sep 7:32]
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| Remaining in and outs? on 07:35 - Sep 1 with 1972 views | lurcher | The left side of defence is a bigger issue. We haven't bought Diop as cover, I expect O'Shea will carry on at RB and we will find a LCB/LFB who can push out Greaves. |  | |  |
| Remaining in and outs? on 07:41 - Sep 1 with 1897 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Remaining in and outs? on 07:35 - Sep 1 by lurcher | The left side of defence is a bigger issue. We haven't bought Diop as cover, I expect O'Shea will carry on at RB and we will find a LCB/LFB who can push out Greaves. |
I dunno about a bigger issue. At least we have a 1st choice LB, which is more than we can say bout the right side. |  |
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| Remaining in and outs? on 07:44 - Sep 1 with 1872 views | franz_tyson | Ogbene and Humphreys haven't been confirmed OUT yet, before we even get to Taylor, Mehmeti and Palmer. If Taylor is injured... not going to be easy to get a suitor. And Mehmeti wants to stay? Think we still got some work to do before bring in another body ( that's assuming we get Flemming). Busy old day, perhaps. |  | |  |
| Remaining in and outs? on 07:45 - Sep 1 with 1865 views | lurcher |
| Remaining in and outs? on 07:41 - Sep 1 by LegendofthePhoenix | I dunno about a bigger issue. At least we have a 1st choice LB, which is more than we can say bout the right side. |
O'Shea has played RB throughout his career. He also plays there for Ireland. Greaves and Ouattara are the only cover for Davis and I am not sure that Greaves is really good enough at this level. |  | |  |
| Remaining in and outs? on 07:46 - Sep 1 with 1847 views | BlueBoots | Quiet day... In: Flemming Out: Ogbene (Lincoln), Humphreys (Huddersfield), Button (Not Registered) Leaves us with a 25 man squad |  |
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| Remaining in and outs? on 07:52 - Sep 1 with 1789 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Remaining in and outs? on 07:35 - Sep 1 by lurcher | The left side of defence is a bigger issue. We haven't bought Diop as cover, I expect O'Shea will carry on at RB and we will find a LCB/LFB who can push out Greaves. |
Yep. I have found myself very twitchy over our defending options. |  |
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| Remaining in and outs? on 07:52 - Sep 1 with 1789 views | WeWereZombies |
| Remaining in and outs? on 07:35 - Sep 1 by lurcher | The left side of defence is a bigger issue. We haven't bought Diop as cover, I expect O'Shea will carry on at RB and we will find a LCB/LFB who can push out Greaves. |
Greaves is excellent - until he loses his composure. Can O'Neil coach a more rounded game into him ? Does he have to have Leif alongside him for comfort (which makes for a compromise on team selection) ? |  |
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| Remaining in and outs? on 07:52 - Sep 1 with 1781 views | lurcher |
| Remaining in and outs? on 07:46 - Sep 1 by BlueBoots | Quiet day... In: Flemming Out: Ogbene (Lincoln), Humphreys (Huddersfield), Button (Not Registered) Leaves us with a 25 man squad |
Anis Mehmeti out and another CB coming in |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| Remaining in and outs? on 07:56 - Sep 1 with 1743 views | lurcher |
| Remaining in and outs? on 07:52 - Sep 1 by WeWereZombies | Greaves is excellent - until he loses his composure. Can O'Neil coach a more rounded game into him ? Does he have to have Leif alongside him for comfort (which makes for a compromise on team selection) ? |
I am not sure playing with an attacking FB who pushes on helps with composure. We are going to need to bring in another CB if we want the option of 5 at the back. |  | |  |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:08 - Sep 1 with 1626 views | WeWereZombies |
| Remaining in and outs? on 07:56 - Sep 1 by lurcher | I am not sure playing with an attacking FB who pushes on helps with composure. We are going to need to bring in another CB if we want the option of 5 at the back. |
I still think there is a lot of potential for improvement in Greaves (and in Davis) who has already had one full season in the Premier League. Perhaps we have a future England international in there but like Harry Maguire (or Titus Bramble) they will always have a mistake or two in them. On a related side note, when I watched the highlights from the United game the following day I couldn't help feeling 'no penalty, Greaves got the ball' but what applied twenty years ago doesn't fit with the way referees operate now and that seems to be another adjustment Greaves needs to make to his play. |  |
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| Remaining in and outs? on 08:12 - Sep 1 with 1561 views | Metal_Hacker | I'd ideally like to see a new / another LCB coming in Lining up with 3 of the 4 from last season in the Championship still does disturb me slightly I think Greaves has done ok but if we lose Greaves we've got Kipre as only back up |  |
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| Remaining in and outs? on 08:17 - Sep 1 with 1497 views | Len_Brennan |
| Remaining in and outs? on 07:45 - Sep 1 by lurcher | O'Shea has played RB throughout his career. He also plays there for Ireland. Greaves and Ouattara are the only cover for Davis and I am not sure that Greaves is really good enough at this level. |
Does O'Shea play RB for Ireland? Has that not been Seamus Coleman or Doherty? O'Shea has play left sided centre half for Ireland I thought. |  |
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| Remaining in and outs? on 08:18 - Sep 1 with 1479 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:17 - Sep 1 by Len_Brennan | Does O'Shea play RB for Ireland? Has that not been Seamus Coleman or Doherty? O'Shea has play left sided centre half for Ireland I thought. |
Has definitely played RB several times |  |
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| Remaining in and outs? on 08:20 - Sep 1 with 1453 views | seblue78 |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:12 - Sep 1 by Metal_Hacker | I'd ideally like to see a new / another LCB coming in Lining up with 3 of the 4 from last season in the Championship still does disturb me slightly I think Greaves has done ok but if we lose Greaves we've got Kipre as only back up |
Agreed. I think we’re probably ok on the right with O’Shea and Outtara with Furlong as a back up |  | |  |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:23 - Sep 1 with 1410 views | lurcher |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:08 - Sep 1 by WeWereZombies | I still think there is a lot of potential for improvement in Greaves (and in Davis) who has already had one full season in the Premier League. Perhaps we have a future England international in there but like Harry Maguire (or Titus Bramble) they will always have a mistake or two in them. On a related side note, when I watched the highlights from the United game the following day I couldn't help feeling 'no penalty, Greaves got the ball' but what applied twenty years ago doesn't fit with the way referees operate now and that seems to be another adjustment Greaves needs to make to his play. |
I think going to ground is what triggered the pen. The united lads stayed on their feet with Enciso and left the keeper to deal with it. I don't know what Greaves ceiling is, but maybe signing someone a little better will help us. |  | |  |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:34 - Sep 1 with 1311 views | TownieRob | Flemming, Left sided CB cover and a RW. Mehmeti, Jack Taylor and possibly Mcateer out (I know GON said hes in the plans but the drop off is too big) |  | |  |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:44 - Sep 1 with 1228 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:12 - Sep 1 by Metal_Hacker | I'd ideally like to see a new / another LCB coming in Lining up with 3 of the 4 from last season in the Championship still does disturb me slightly I think Greaves has done ok but if we lose Greaves we've got Kipre as only back up |
Agree, I think Greaves greatest strength is also his greatest weakness. He tries sooo hard - blocking and tackling and running and tries to be absolutely everywhere when we are under attack. But that also seems to be when his adrenalin level really spikes and he loses some composure in the heat of the moment. I think it is something that could be coached - we want the 100% endeavour, but he needs to remain calm in his head space. But as for Cedric - I think he is suited to a slower pace of game, and with the electric pace of PL attackers, that is something I don't even want to think about. Good Championship CB, not good enough for PL. But RB is the biggest gap for me. I think Darnell can be reasonable cover. But we need Dara in the RCB position, so we just have a massive hole at RB. Only 14 hours to find out! [Post edited 1 Sep 8:44]
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| Remaining in and outs? on 08:45 - Sep 1 with 1175 views | NedPlimpton |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:18 - Sep 1 by Metal_Hacker | Has definitely played RB several times |
Has he? Ireland tend to play a 352 with Seamus Coleman as the right wing back type role. O'Shea is very much part of the back 3 |  | |  |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:50 - Sep 1 with 1093 views | franz_tyson |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:34 - Sep 1 by TownieRob | Flemming, Left sided CB cover and a RW. Mehmeti, Jack Taylor and possibly Mcateer out (I know GON said hes in the plans but the drop off is too big) |
It only works if we can upgrade McAteer. No point getting rid if we can't get in a better replacement. The clock is ticking. And maybe he's good enough as a squad player to compete against lower half teams. That's where we need to get our points. I wouldn't rule out Philogene playing RW if he stays. |  | |  |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:51 - Sep 1 with 1076 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:45 - Sep 1 by NedPlimpton | Has he? Ireland tend to play a 352 with Seamus Coleman as the right wing back type role. O'Shea is very much part of the back 3 |
Yes he has . Don't ask me who against but for sure I've seen him play a couple of times for Ireland at RB |  |
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| Remaining in and outs? on 08:53 - Sep 1 with 1051 views | NedPlimpton |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:51 - Sep 1 by Metal_Hacker | Yes he has . Don't ask me who against but for sure I've seen him play a couple of times for Ireland at RB |
Hmmm, I've seen David James play as a striker. Doesn't mean he is one! |  | |  |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:54 - Sep 1 with 1047 views | BlueBoots |
| Remaining in and outs? on 07:52 - Sep 1 by lurcher | Anis Mehmeti out and another CB coming in |
Mehmeti saying he wants to stay and fight for a place in the team |  |
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| Remaining in and outs? on 08:55 - Sep 1 with 1027 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:53 - Sep 1 by NedPlimpton | Hmmm, I've seen David James play as a striker. Doesn't mean he is one! |
I never said Dara was a right back , simply saying he has played RB for Ireland |  |
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| Remaining in and outs? on 09:13 - Sep 1 with 841 views | WeWereZombies |
| Remaining in and outs? on 08:50 - Sep 1 by franz_tyson | It only works if we can upgrade McAteer. No point getting rid if we can't get in a better replacement. The clock is ticking. And maybe he's good enough as a squad player to compete against lower half teams. That's where we need to get our points. I wouldn't rule out Philogene playing RW if he stays. |
I think if McAteer gets game time then we will see him come on leaps and bounds, like we saw last season from the nondescript late substitution at Preston to the ever present threat he presented to the opposition towards the end of the campaign. However, if there is little likelihood of getting that game time then it is better for his development to be on loan to a potential top six second tier side (Millwall ? Swansea ? QPR ?) |  |
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| Remaining in and outs? on 09:24 - Sep 1 with 738 views | Sharkey | It's a very strange deadline day, with so many league fixtures this evening. Especially down in league 2, (not that this is what this thread is really about), I should think managers are often personally involved in getting deals done. Has deadline day been a game day before? |  | |  |
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