| What is it about Moyes ? 10:05 - Nov 3 with 1340 views | OldFart71 |
I think the question has to be asked is what is it about David Moyes that makes him such a good manager.
It was said prior to the season starting that they were short of players and maybe things will change if he gets a few injuries.
But there's no doubt he is doing a brilliant job.
Maybe not a manager for a top club, although it could be said that along with Newcastle they should be up there, but due to the fact that they like many of these on the edge of greatness clubs still sell their best assets and have owners unlike our own who seem prepared for the long haul.
That's not to say we won't sell if the opportunity comes along as we saw with Delap (maybe we didn't have a choice) and Hutch who threw his toys out of the pram. |  | | |  |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:17 - Nov 3 with 1234 views | Guthrum |
A very, very good fit for Everton.
Moyes' reputation was dented by his stint at ManU, where he was always onto a bit of a loser in succeeding Sir Alex Ferguson. |  |
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| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:19 - Nov 3 with 1219 views | mellowblue |
Man U should have perservered a bit longer. Replacing a dour Scot with a dour Scot might well have worked out successfully. He looks old for 63. [Post edited 3 Nov 10:20]
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| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:21 - Nov 3 with 1193 views | mellowblue |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:17 - Nov 3 by Guthrum |
A very, very good fit for Everton.
Moyes' reputation was dented by his stint at ManU, where he was always onto a bit of a loser in succeeding Sir Alex Ferguson. |
ha, we were both thinking about his Man U stint at the same time | | | |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:24 - Nov 3 with 1168 views | BlueDouglas |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:19 - Nov 3 by mellowblue |
Man U should have perservered a bit longer. Replacing a dour Scot with a dour Scot might well have worked out successfully. He looks old for 63. [Post edited 3 Nov 10:20]
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think the problems at Man U are beyond any manager to sort out |  |
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| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:24 - Nov 3 with 1171 views | Mookamoo |
There is obviously a lot of trust that goes both ways.
If West Ham are wondering why they are where they are, they can look back to how Moyles wasn't backed despite regularly playing in Europe. |  | | |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:29 - Nov 3 with 1127 views | mellowblue |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:24 - Nov 3 by BlueDouglas |
think the problems at Man U are beyond any manager to sort out |
Other than an aging squad, there were no problems when Sir Alex left. | | | |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:31 - Nov 3 with 1112 views | unstableblue |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:19 - Nov 3 by mellowblue |
Man U should have perservered a bit longer. Replacing a dour Scot with a dour Scot might well have worked out successfully. He looks old for 63. [Post edited 3 Nov 10:20]
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I was watching their excellent shape, system and workrate last night thinking exactly the same, what if Man U had given him time?
Yes he’s got the two in form centre backs in the league, and in Dewsbury Hall a Rolls Royce. But imagine of Moyes had had access to the transfer kitty Man U had squandered.
They could have been robust and attack attack attack.. leaving the front 4 to be free. |  |
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| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:32 - Nov 3 with 1107 views | ITFC_Essex |
He's just a good football manager. Manure were mad sacking him that soon. |  |
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| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:51 - Nov 3 with 1021 views | homer_123 |
He's an underrated manager. Also, I think there is an assumption that his teams are defensive or boring.
Having watched Everton under Moyes for a while, it's evident that this isn't the case. Yes, they are defensively well organised (as a team), especially when out of possession.
But actually, they are creative and good going forward. I have to say, I have enjoyed watching them play.
For whatever reason, he's viewed somewhat as a pragmatic manager, which is underselling his ability somewhat. [Post edited 3 Nov 10:54]
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| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:52 - Nov 3 with 1016 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Gets the most out of what he has. Players like him and play for him. If they give him 100% he protects them.
He's low risk, hence the failure at Utd where they expect to be attacking, and not exactly exciting but he builds his teams from the back, around hard working players and sprinkles that with some flair. Hes pretty much Mick but but better and a bit less agricultural. |  |
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| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:53 - Nov 3 with 1011 views | BlueDouglas |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:29 - Nov 3 by mellowblue |
Other than an aging squad, there were no problems when Sir Alex left. |
think most man u fans would disagree - when they took over the Glazers saddled the club with half a billion debt that the clubs they were competing with didn't have to worry about. Since the takeover they've been paying it off with interest = a lot of money they would have been better off investing in old trafford, training, struture etc.
not just about the money though, a bit like us they lost their identity, poor governance and the wrong people behind the scenes will do that. | |
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| What is it about Moyes ? on 11:21 - Nov 3 with 931 views | Garv |
Find his teams generally quite boring and against us they were poor. Scored with a very lucky goal.
His squad is small but individually he's got some great names, I wouldn't say he's working miracles. He's got the England no.1 in goal, his midfield is packed full of good young footballers, £100m Grealish is there, defensively he's got a mix of experience and potential, plus they all seem to be massive. It's up front where he's obviously light but there's worse strikers around than Barry.
I find Moyes a bit of a miserable so and so, so I'm probably clouded by that. |  |
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| What is it about Moyes ? on 11:37 - Nov 3 with 839 views | Guthrum |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:53 - Nov 3 by BlueDouglas |
think most man u fans would disagree - when they took over the Glazers saddled the club with half a billion debt that the clubs they were competing with didn't have to worry about. Since the takeover they've been paying it off with interest = a lot of money they would have been better off investing in old trafford, training, struture etc.
not just about the money though, a bit like us they lost their identity, poor governance and the wrong people behind the scenes will do that. |
Plus an ill-balanced squad containing a number of billy big bollox players not suited to the team. | |
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| What is it about Moyes ? on 11:56 - Nov 3 with 759 views | mellowblue |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:53 - Nov 3 by BlueDouglas |
think most man u fans would disagree - when they took over the Glazers saddled the club with half a billion debt that the clubs they were competing with didn't have to worry about. Since the takeover they've been paying it off with interest = a lot of money they would have been better off investing in old trafford, training, struture etc.
not just about the money though, a bit like us they lost their identity, poor governance and the wrong people behind the scenes will do that. |
I was thinking more along the lines of playing success.
Bear in mind the Glazers were shareholder 10 years before Sir Alex left and as long as they were still successful on the pitch, the fan base were overall quite muted about the debt, a few yellow and green scarves here and there and the odd protest was about the height of it. It got far more toxic once the success dried up. | | | |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 12:53 - Nov 3 with 569 views | Dubtractor |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 10:51 - Nov 3 by homer_123 |
He's an underrated manager. Also, I think there is an assumption that his teams are defensive or boring.
Having watched Everton under Moyes for a while, it's evident that this isn't the case. Yes, they are defensively well organised (as a team), especially when out of possession.
But actually, they are creative and good going forward. I have to say, I have enjoyed watching them play.
For whatever reason, he's viewed somewhat as a pragmatic manager, which is underselling his ability somewhat. [Post edited 3 Nov 10:54]
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He's a manager that gets solid results, absolutely, but i very much disagree that his teams are good to watch.
Only 2 teams have scored less than them, and only Leeds have fewer overall goals scored and conceded) than them, they are the most pragmatic and cagey team in the league.
Horrible team to watch as a neutral. |  |
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| What is it about Moyes ? on 13:25 - Nov 3 with 448 views | pointofblue |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 12:53 - Nov 3 by Dubtractor |
He's a manager that gets solid results, absolutely, but i very much disagree that his teams are good to watch.
Only 2 teams have scored less than them, and only Leeds have fewer overall goals scored and conceded) than them, they are the most pragmatic and cagey team in the league.
Horrible team to watch as a neutral. |
I thought they were entertaining to watch last night, in fairness. Very much deserved the win. | |
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| What is it about Moyes ? on 14:23 - Nov 3 with 309 views | homer_123 |
| What is it about Moyes ? on 12:53 - Nov 3 by Dubtractor |
He's a manager that gets solid results, absolutely, but i very much disagree that his teams are good to watch.
Only 2 teams have scored less than them, and only Leeds have fewer overall goals scored and conceded) than them, they are the most pragmatic and cagey team in the league.
Horrible team to watch as a neutral. |
I watched them a lot last year, maybe I was lucky and the ones I watched they were more expressive but, genuinely, I was surprised at how good they were to watch. | |
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