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Watching the leaders debate 21:02 - May 18 with 6553 viewsbluelagos

Am really torn between the Libs and Greens for my vote.

What should a disgruntled left of centre voter with no time for Corbyn do?

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:04 - May 18 with 2382 viewsThePitBoss

You'll be very disappointed.
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Watching the leaders debate on 21:05 - May 18 with 2353 viewsGlasgowBlue

Don't you mean the losers debate?

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:06 - May 18 with 2365 viewsvapour_trail

Where do you live? Will it have any impact?

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:07 - May 18 with 2359 viewsvapour_trail

Watching the leaders debate on 21:05 - May 18 by GlasgowBlue

Don't you mean the losers debate?


Not really. Corbyn isn't there.

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:09 - May 18 with 2361 viewsElderGrizzly

I did like these two responses



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Watching the leaders debate on 21:22 - May 18 with 2322 viewsSarge

Just use this:

https://www.tactical2017.com
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Watching the leaders debate on 21:23 - May 18 with 2284 viewsGlasgowBlue

Watching the leaders debate on 21:22 - May 18 by Sarge

Just use this:

https://www.tactical2017.com



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Watching the leaders debate on 21:25 - May 18 with 2291 viewsManchesterblue

Plaid Cymru woman has the biggest ears ever

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:28 - May 18 with 2271 viewsSarge

Watching the leaders debate on 21:23 - May 18 by GlasgowBlue



I'm one of the people who couldn't vote in 2010 and was then screwed over the most by the Tories and the yellow Tories.

You've got to do what needs to be done. Especially if you don't know who to vote for anyway.
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Watching the leaders debate on 21:28 - May 18 with 2266 viewsDarth_Koont

Not vote if it comes to it.

A low turnout can suggest a need for change and a need for politicians to properly engage with the electorate better than anything else.

I've never bought all this blackmail about having to vote. It's more important to stick to your principles rather than getting into line to preserve the status quo.

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:33 - May 18 with 2237 viewsblue_oyster

Watching the leaders debate on 21:28 - May 18 by Darth_Koont

Not vote if it comes to it.

A low turnout can suggest a need for change and a need for politicians to properly engage with the electorate better than anything else.

I've never bought all this blackmail about having to vote. It's more important to stick to your principles rather than getting into line to preserve the status quo.


You seem to have eaten all of the sensible pills today!

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:34 - May 18 with 2229 viewsThePitBoss

Watching the leaders debate on 21:25 - May 18 by Manchesterblue

Plaid Cymru woman has the biggest ears ever


Massive jugs.
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Watching the leaders debate on 21:36 - May 18 with 2215 viewsDarth_Koont

Watching the leaders debate on 21:33 - May 18 by blue_oyster

You seem to have eaten all of the sensible pills today!


No, I just stayed off the smack today.

But I'm always sensible ... (cough)

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:37 - May 18 with 2209 viewsElderGrizzly

Watching the leaders debate on 21:23 - May 18 by GlasgowBlue



Sssssh Natalie
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Watching the leaders debate on 21:38 - May 18 with 2206 viewsAdmiralFunge

Fck this election.

Corbyn just gives a series of Best Man speeches to people who already completely agree with his ideas, and everyone else is irrelevant.

In summary, Laggers, I don't know. Fancy a pint?

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:39 - May 18 with 2195 viewsJ2BLUE

Watching on +1. If Fallon is right and 1p on income tax would raise £30bn over a parliament then it simply must be done. It's a no brainer.

Truly impaired.
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Watching the leaders debate on 21:40 - May 18 with 2184 viewsvapour_trail

Watching the leaders debate on 21:28 - May 18 by Darth_Koont

Not vote if it comes to it.

A low turnout can suggest a need for change and a need for politicians to properly engage with the electorate better than anything else.

I've never bought all this blackmail about having to vote. It's more important to stick to your principles rather than getting into line to preserve the status quo.


Exactly.

Mass non participation is what is required.

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:42 - May 18 with 2174 viewsimsureazzure

Fundamental Christian nutcase or a vote that makes you feel better but changes F all.

Spoil your paper as I will.
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Watching the leaders debate on 21:42 - May 18 with 2166 viewscaught-in-limbo

Watching the leaders debate on 21:28 - May 18 by Darth_Koont

Not vote if it comes to it.

A low turnout can suggest a need for change and a need for politicians to properly engage with the electorate better than anything else.

I've never bought all this blackmail about having to vote. It's more important to stick to your principles rather than getting into line to preserve the status quo.


Exactly. Nobody should buy into any of the following:

1) "It's your democratic duty to vote"
2) "If you don't vote, you can't complain"
3)" A non vote is a vote for candidate x"
4) "If you don't like any of the candidates, cast a blank vote"
5) candidate x is unelectable

If you feel that none of the parties really represent you, or that you're in a position of voting for a least worst option again, it most likely means the politicians are serving themselves or someone else as opposed to you. If that's the case, don't be tricked into voting - all you're doing is condoning a system which does nothing for you and strengthens their credibility further.

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:43 - May 18 with 2162 viewsAdmiralFunge

Watching the leaders debate on 21:40 - May 18 by vapour_trail

Exactly.

Mass non participation is what is required.


I dunno, Vappers.

I've had this out with CIL before. Exercise your right to vote, even if it's going in there and wrecking the ballot paper.

I do wonder if a vote where, say, 40% of the ballot papers were spoiled would prompt any kind of re-think.

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:46 - May 18 with 2139 viewsAdmiralFunge

Watching the leaders debate on 21:42 - May 18 by caught-in-limbo

Exactly. Nobody should buy into any of the following:

1) "It's your democratic duty to vote"
2) "If you don't vote, you can't complain"
3)" A non vote is a vote for candidate x"
4) "If you don't like any of the candidates, cast a blank vote"
5) candidate x is unelectable

If you feel that none of the parties really represent you, or that you're in a position of voting for a least worst option again, it most likely means the politicians are serving themselves or someone else as opposed to you. If that's the case, don't be tricked into voting - all you're doing is condoning a system which does nothing for you and strengthens their credibility further.


The problem with that viewpoint is that, in real terms, your actions mean as much as the fat man next door, who can't be arsed to walk to the polling station.

There is no discernible difference.

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:46 - May 18 with 2137 viewslowhouseblue

Watching the leaders debate on 21:42 - May 18 by caught-in-limbo

Exactly. Nobody should buy into any of the following:

1) "It's your democratic duty to vote"
2) "If you don't vote, you can't complain"
3)" A non vote is a vote for candidate x"
4) "If you don't like any of the candidates, cast a blank vote"
5) candidate x is unelectable

If you feel that none of the parties really represent you, or that you're in a position of voting for a least worst option again, it most likely means the politicians are serving themselves or someone else as opposed to you. If that's the case, don't be tricked into voting - all you're doing is condoning a system which does nothing for you and strengthens their credibility further.


don't you think (4) makes your point better than just not turning up? if you don't go along then no one knows that you're any different from the people who just couldn't care less. casting a blank ballot is surely a much clearer way of saying that you've thought about it, you care about it, and still don't want any of them?
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And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:47 - May 18 with 2133 viewsvapour_trail

Watching the leaders debate on 21:43 - May 18 by AdmiralFunge

I dunno, Vappers.

I've had this out with CIL before. Exercise your right to vote, even if it's going in there and wrecking the ballot paper.

I do wonder if a vote where, say, 40% of the ballot papers were spoiled would prompt any kind of re-think.


Do they report numbers of spoiled papers?

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:48 - May 18 with 2128 viewslowhouseblue

Watching the leaders debate on 21:47 - May 18 by vapour_trail

Do they report numbers of spoiled papers?


yes.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Watching the leaders debate on 21:49 - May 18 with 2124 viewsGromheort

Watching the leaders debate on 21:28 - May 18 by Darth_Koont

Not vote if it comes to it.

A low turnout can suggest a need for change and a need for politicians to properly engage with the electorate better than anything else.

I've never bought all this blackmail about having to vote. It's more important to stick to your principles rather than getting into line to preserve the status quo.


Certainly don't support the idea of compulsory voting. However, as the vote falls that typically favours the Tories (given its the younger people that are more likely to say stuff it)
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