| Anne sacoolas 07:53 - Sep 11 with 2010 views | solomon |
Driving cautiously albeit on the wrong said of the road according to her lawyers. A bit like mounting the pavement and claiming to be within the speed limit whilst doing so.
Americans.
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| Anne sacoolas on 08:33 - Sep 11 with 1627 views | Bluefish |
Is it like breaking the law in a specific and limited way? |  |
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| Anne sacoolas on 08:38 - Sep 11 with 1615 views | solomon |
| Anne sacoolas on 08:33 - Sep 11 by Bluefish |
Is it like breaking the law in a specific and limited way? |
One dead innocent road user would suggest it is. | | | |
| Anne sacoolas on 09:22 - Sep 11 with 1571 views | Pendejo |
So her cautious driving causes one death..... Imagine if she wasn't cautious, would have been like Death Race 2000
If she was indeed driving cautiously, Harry Dunn wouldn't be dead and we would not have overheard of her... Can't the lawyer be used for such a disgraceful statement? |  |
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| Anne sacoolas on 09:35 - Sep 11 with 1546 views | hampstead_blue |
"I only killed him a bit" |  |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Anne sacoolas on 09:48 - Sep 11 with 1529 views | solomon |
| Anne sacoolas on 09:22 - Sep 11 by Pendejo |
So her cautious driving causes one death..... Imagine if she wasn't cautious, would have been like Death Race 2000
If she was indeed driving cautiously, Harry Dunn wouldn't be dead and we would not have overheard of her... Can't the lawyer be used for such a disgraceful statement? |
It’s almost like this incident is an actual snap shot of US foreign policy. | | | |
| Anne sacoolas on 09:55 - Sep 11 with 1523 views | Basuco |
I worked as a contractor at RAF Mildenhall and USAF Lakenheath for 5 or 6 years back in the 80's and it was very common to see cars driven on the wrong side of the road. My big surprise is that a tragedy like this did not happen near one of these bases. |  | | |
| Anne sacoolas on 09:59 - Sep 11 with 1501 views | Bluefish |
| Anne sacoolas on 09:55 - Sep 11 by Basuco |
I worked as a contractor at RAF Mildenhall and USAF Lakenheath for 5 or 6 years back in the 80's and it was very common to see cars driven on the wrong side of the road. My big surprise is that a tragedy like this did not happen near one of these bases. |
Hmm I grew up in that area and lived there for over 30 years. It wasn't common, although as part of their induction they were banned from overtaking on some of the fen roads because they kept ending up in ditches | |
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| Anne sacoolas on 10:03 - Sep 11 with 1503 views | Guthrum |
| Anne sacoolas on 09:55 - Sep 11 by Basuco |
I worked as a contractor at RAF Mildenhall and USAF Lakenheath for 5 or 6 years back in the 80's and it was very common to see cars driven on the wrong side of the road. My big surprise is that a tragedy like this did not happen near one of these bases. |
I lived in the area growing up and there were a number of incidents, including once (IIRC) when an ambulance ended up being run off the road. Tho don't specifically remember any fatalities. |  |
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| Anne sacoolas on 10:14 - Sep 11 with 1481 views | HARRY10 |
It was, by in large and accident.
What was not accidental was to 'flee the scene' ie flee to the US.
That smacks of cowardice, and contempt for the family involve - and no weasel words from a hired 'liar' will change that.
This should have and still should be sorted out in the place it happened - England
Trying to string this out merely adds to the pain of the family, and the shame of those trying to duck out of their responsibility |  | | |
| Anne sacoolas on 10:14 - Sep 11 with 1480 views | Basuco |
| Anne sacoolas on 09:59 - Sep 11 by Bluefish |
Hmm I grew up in that area and lived there for over 30 years. It wasn't common, although as part of their induction they were banned from overtaking on some of the fen roads because they kept ending up in ditches |
The areas closest to the base were the worst, cars pulling away from shops, and junctions cars would frequently go onto the wrong side of the road and then swerve violently to correct it. I was working in a car hire office in Beck Row once and saw a brand new car pull away and did not correct it within sight of the office. It was great working up there as we used to get to go to squadron BBQ's and at $2:40 to the pound, you paid $5 entry and that would cover as much as you could eat and drink (beer) all afternoon. Now those were the really great days. A guy I worked with had Ipswich scarfs attached to his van for a month after the FA Cup win, we used to get waved trough the main gates without stopping all the time, then when he removed the scarfs he was stopped by the gate security and asked where are you Ipswich scarfs? | | | |
| Anne sacoolas on 10:28 - Sep 11 with 1457 views | BlueBadger |
| Anne sacoolas on 09:55 - Sep 11 by Basuco |
I worked as a contractor at RAF Mildenhall and USAF Lakenheath for 5 or 6 years back in the 80's and it was very common to see cars driven on the wrong side of the road. My big surprise is that a tragedy like this did not happen near one of these bases. |
Seen a fair few when I was working at WSH until they started sending most major trauma stuff to Addenbrookes.
Funnily enough, the few that still came to WSH were more scared on arrival at WSH because they were quite often accompanied by a MP who was waiting for them to be declared 'airway safe' so they could chuck the book at them for driving like fools. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 10:28]
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| Anne sacoolas on 10:39 - Sep 11 with 1427 views | solomon |
| Anne sacoolas on 10:28 - Sep 11 by BlueBadger |
Seen a fair few when I was working at WSH until they started sending most major trauma stuff to Addenbrookes.
Funnily enough, the few that still came to WSH were more scared on arrival at WSH because they were quite often accompanied by a MP who was waiting for them to be declared 'airway safe' so they could chuck the book at them for driving like fools. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 10:28]
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Was the MP Mr T? | | | |
| Anne sacoolas on 10:41 - Sep 11 with 1420 views | BlueBadger |
| Anne sacoolas on 10:39 - Sep 11 by solomon |
Was the MP Mr T? |
Sometimes, yes. | |
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| Anne sacoolas on 10:41 - Sep 11 with 1415 views | Bluefish |
| Anne sacoolas on 10:14 - Sep 11 by Basuco |
The areas closest to the base were the worst, cars pulling away from shops, and junctions cars would frequently go onto the wrong side of the road and then swerve violently to correct it. I was working in a car hire office in Beck Row once and saw a brand new car pull away and did not correct it within sight of the office. It was great working up there as we used to get to go to squadron BBQ's and at $2:40 to the pound, you paid $5 entry and that would cover as much as you could eat and drink (beer) all afternoon. Now those were the really great days. A guy I worked with had Ipswich scarfs attached to his van for a month after the FA Cup win, we used to get waved trough the main gates without stopping all the time, then when he removed the scarfs he was stopped by the gate security and asked where are you Ipswich scarfs? |
It was great growing up around there back then with it being so easy to get on, I was on there most days playing tennis or bowling and eating at Anthony's, Baskin Robbin and the Starlifter. Lakenheath was tricker but still used to get signed on there a fair bit. Later it became all about the Galaxy club. Had loads of mates to get us ridiculous cheap beer and steaks so we had plenty of parties where it was all you could eat and drink. After the war it was ruined because it became harder to get on and not worth the effort | |
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| Anne sacoolas on 10:45 - Sep 11 with 1408 views | Guthrum |
| Anne sacoolas on 09:55 - Sep 11 by Basuco |
I worked as a contractor at RAF Mildenhall and USAF Lakenheath for 5 or 6 years back in the 80's and it was very common to see cars driven on the wrong side of the road. My big surprise is that a tragedy like this did not happen near one of these bases. |
Altho the difference between Mildenhall/Lakenheath and Croughton is that you can fly into the former two straight from the US. Croughton is a non-flying base (it's covered with giant aerials and domes, if you ever drive past). So she would have to arrived there by car as well. | |
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| Anne sacoolas on 10:48 - Sep 11 with 1403 views | BlueBadger |
| Anne sacoolas on 10:41 - Sep 11 by BlueBadger |
Sometimes, yes. |
There was sometimes a very large african-american MP called Tyrone who turned up. Usually to throw the book at good 'ol boys from the South who'd wrecked their ridiculous gas-guzzlers.
One time, one of the local 'regulars', a charming gentleman with a large 'white power' tattoo on his chest and a number of pharmaceutical hobbies tried to give him grief. As security moved in to escort said charmer back to his seat in the waiting room Tyrone just smiled and said to them 'sirs, I been chased by over a dozen KKK before, I reckon this fella'll not trouble me over much'. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 16:56]
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| Anne sacoolas on 15:46 - Sep 11 with 1287 views | solomon |
| Anne sacoolas on 10:48 - Sep 11 by BlueBadger |
There was sometimes a very large african-american MP called Tyrone who turned up. Usually to throw the book at good 'ol boys from the South who'd wrecked their ridiculous gas-guzzlers.
One time, one of the local 'regulars', a charming gentleman with a large 'white power' tattoo on his chest and a number of pharmaceutical hobbies tried to give him grief. As security moved in to escort said charmer back to his seat in the waiting room Tyrone just smiled and said to them 'sirs, I been chased by over a dozen KKK before, I reckon this fella'll not trouble me over much'. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 16:56]
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| Anne sacoolas on 16:46 - Sep 11 with 1252 views | HARRY10 |
| Anne sacoolas on 10:28 - Sep 11 by BlueBadger |
Seen a fair few when I was working at WSH until they started sending most major trauma stuff to Addenbrookes.
Funnily enough, the few that still came to WSH were more scared on arrival at WSH because they were quite often accompanied by a MP who was waiting for them to be declared 'airway safe' so they could chuck the book at them for driving like fools. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 10:28]
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Probably scared they would be charged as in the US
"Have a seat in the waiting room sir, it will be $67.... per hour
''We will take you down for an x-ray, once you have sorted out the re-mortgage on your house'' | | | |
| Anne sacoolas on 16:53 - Sep 11 with 1234 views | jeera |
| Anne sacoolas on 09:59 - Sep 11 by Bluefish |
Hmm I grew up in that area and lived there for over 30 years. It wasn't common, although as part of their induction they were banned from overtaking on some of the fen roads because they kept ending up in ditches |
It was bloody common along the Mildenhall to Bury road.
Very common.
I worked Mildenhall on a Friday for a few years and had a near miss or two myself.
2 of my mates had accidents along there with Americans doing exactly that; one of whom found his van's engine practically in his lap and had to be cut out.
They would be stationed over here and bring their motors with them.
There were so many incidents and near misses it became quite a fuss.
You must have slept through it. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 17:03]
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| Anne sacoolas on 20:04 - Sep 11 with 1164 views | Bluefish |
| Anne sacoolas on 16:53 - Sep 11 by jeera |
It was bloody common along the Mildenhall to Bury road.
Very common.
I worked Mildenhall on a Friday for a few years and had a near miss or two myself.
2 of my mates had accidents along there with Americans doing exactly that; one of whom found his van's engine practically in his lap and had to be cut out.
They would be stationed over here and bring their motors with them.
There were so many incidents and near misses it became quite a fuss.
You must have slept through it. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 17:03]
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Maybe it was different in the 70s certainly not in the 90s and beyond | |
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| Anne sacoolas on 20:11 - Sep 11 with 1154 views | jeera |
| Anne sacoolas on 20:04 - Sep 11 by Bluefish |
Maybe it was different in the 70s certainly not in the 90s and beyond |
Fecking 70s. Give you 70s. I was a child in the 70s.
I was working Mildenhall throughout a chunk of the 90s.
I did have a 1976 FS1E circa 1983 and a '74 Ford Capri in '84 though. | |
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| Anne sacoolas on 20:13 - Sep 11 with 1154 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Anne sacoolas on 10:14 - Sep 11 by HARRY10 |
It was, by in large and accident.
What was not accidental was to 'flee the scene' ie flee to the US.
That smacks of cowardice, and contempt for the family involve - and no weasel words from a hired 'liar' will change that.
This should have and still should be sorted out in the place it happened - England
Trying to string this out merely adds to the pain of the family, and the shame of those trying to duck out of their responsibility |
She was driving on the wrong side of the road which shows some culpability.
The fact she fled claiming immunity that she should not have had suggests there may well have been further culpability.
The ones who should really be responsible are those who allowed her to falsely claim the immunity. |  |
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| Anne sacoolas on 20:52 - Sep 11 with 1105 views | Vic |
| Anne sacoolas on 09:59 - Sep 11 by Bluefish |
Hmm I grew up in that area and lived there for over 30 years. It wasn't common, although as part of their induction they were banned from overtaking on some of the fen roads because they kept ending up in ditches |
Hmm, the number of smashed up pontiacs etc I always saw at The 5 ways garage suggestEd to me that our cousins from across the pond were not verily familiar with the UK road set up! When I started to drive in the late 70’s I was specifically warned By several people about the number of USAF personnel who drove on the wrong side of the road. |  |
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| Anne sacoolas on 21:01 - Sep 11 with 1089 views | Bluefish |
| Anne sacoolas on 20:52 - Sep 11 by Vic |
Hmm, the number of smashed up pontiacs etc I always saw at The 5 ways garage suggestEd to me that our cousins from across the pond were not verily familiar with the UK road set up! When I started to drive in the late 70’s I was specifically warned By several people about the number of USAF personnel who drove on the wrong side of the road. |
Big difference between bad drivers pranging cars and peopledriving on the wrong side of the road for head ons | |
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| Anne sacoolas on 23:26 - Sep 11 with 987 views | TractorWood |
| Anne sacoolas on 16:53 - Sep 11 by jeera |
It was bloody common along the Mildenhall to Bury road.
Very common.
I worked Mildenhall on a Friday for a few years and had a near miss or two myself.
2 of my mates had accidents along there with Americans doing exactly that; one of whom found his van's engine practically in his lap and had to be cut out.
They would be stationed over here and bring their motors with them.
There were so many incidents and near misses it became quite a fuss.
You must have slept through it. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 17:03]
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I live quite close to the area. In general the Americans drive pretty slowly and hesitantly until they get on the A11 or A14. I think they are given educational courses when they arrive and as some have said above their superiors hammer them for any local bother.
As you say they get their 6 litre Dodge ram's shipped over with left hand drive. I really think that doesn't help.
As with the Anna Sacoolas though there is no legislating for habit and instinct. The whole thing is a shambles and she should be extradited the same as I'm sure would happen if it was vice versa. The claim of diplomatic immunity is farcical and the remainder of her argument is that the maximum sentence is harsh so she doesn't want to come over. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 23:29]
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