| Hull must be rubbish! 12:09 - Nov 23 with 4979 views | N2_Blue |
It seems according to our so called supporters apparently you are rubbish if you can't beat top 8 teams.
Hull have not beaten a team in the top 9, and have lost to Peterboro and Fleetwood.
We've beaten the team in 8th at least
(edited to pick up error pointed out by Homer) [Post edited 23 Nov 2020 12:14]
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:10 - Nov 23 with 2797 views | homer_123 |
'Hull have not beaten a top ten team in the top 9' Huh? |  |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:11 - Nov 23 with 2785 views | TieDyedIn95 |
They will add Ipswich to that list tomorrow. There will be a Lambert Out meltdown after. |  |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:13 - Nov 23 with 2774 views | noggin |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:11 - Nov 23 by TieDyedIn95 |
They will add Ipswich to that list tomorrow. There will be a Lambert Out meltdown after. |
I fully expect that, yes. |  |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:14 - Nov 23 with 2765 views | DanTheMan |
"so called supporters"
Oh enough with this, we can be fans and be concerned about team performances at the same time. It's as dumb as calling people happy clappers for being positive about things.
Hull could well be rubbish if they fail, like we did, to beat those around them. They're in the same position we were last year, there's still a lot of time for them to fall away. |  |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:17 - Nov 23 with 2723 views | Herbivore |
Looking at the table we've only beaten one side in the top half, Accrington who are currently 12th so at the very bottom of the top half. |  |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:18 - Nov 23 with 2716 views | N2_Blue |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:14 - Nov 23 by DanTheMan |
"so called supporters"
Oh enough with this, we can be fans and be concerned about team performances at the same time. It's as dumb as calling people happy clappers for being positive about things.
Hull could well be rubbish if they fail, like we did, to beat those around them. They're in the same position we were last year, there's still a lot of time for them to fall away. |
Sorry Dan, but i'm fed up with the over the top negativeity...so no 'not enough of this'!
Plenty of supporters are using this type of stat to beat us with and it's unnecessary. Beating the top teams away is always a tall order but you need to at home admittedly. Just how many top 8 teams have we played at home? You can only beat what is put in front of you and we've done that to the max at home. | |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:21 - Nov 23 with 2698 views | Herbivore |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:18 - Nov 23 by N2_Blue |
Sorry Dan, but i'm fed up with the over the top negativeity...so no 'not enough of this'!
Plenty of supporters are using this type of stat to beat us with and it's unnecessary. Beating the top teams away is always a tall order but you need to at home admittedly. Just how many top 8 teams have we played at home? You can only beat what is put in front of you and we've done that to the max at home. |
Is it really asking a lot to take at least one point from away games at Lincoln, Doncaster, and Sunderland? Standards really have lowered. | |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:21 - Nov 23 with 2694 views | N2_Blue |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:17 - Nov 23 by Herbivore |
Looking at the table we've only beaten one side in the top half, Accrington who are currently 12th so at the very bottom of the top half. |
Accrington are 12th?? Based on what? | |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:22 - Nov 23 with 2687 views | homer_123 |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:21 - Nov 23 by N2_Blue |
Accrington are 12th?? Based on what? |
Based on the League table.
Yep, also just spotted TWTD not up to date for some reason. [Post edited 23 Nov 2020 12:27]
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| The mighty Lincoln..... on 12:23 - Nov 23 with 2677 views | Bloots |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:21 - Nov 23 by Herbivore |
Is it really asking a lot to take at least one point from away games at Lincoln, Doncaster, and Sunderland? Standards really have lowered. |
.....you mean.
We can't expect to draw with teams like that.
There's no easy games in this league.
We've got no right to beat anyone.
Blah, blah, blah.
Zzzzz.... |  |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:23 - Nov 23 with 2678 views | homer_123 |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:18 - Nov 23 by N2_Blue |
Sorry Dan, but i'm fed up with the over the top negativeity...so no 'not enough of this'!
Plenty of supporters are using this type of stat to beat us with and it's unnecessary. Beating the top teams away is always a tall order but you need to at home admittedly. Just how many top 8 teams have we played at home? You can only beat what is put in front of you and we've done that to the max at home. |
I do see where you are coming from.
However, let me ask you a question - it's a simple one.
Based on our overall performances - how do you think we will fair against the better teams in this division? | |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:24 - Nov 23 with 2670 views | N2_Blue |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:21 - Nov 23 by Herbivore |
Is it really asking a lot to take at least one point from away games at Lincoln, Doncaster, and Sunderland? Standards really have lowered. |
No...but dodgy pen at Lincoln, and Sunderland would have been a draw minimum without an official who should never set foot on a football pitch again.
Fail to win at least one of the two games at home this week there may be a point but we've not played a top 8 team at home yet so this stat is really unfair | |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:26 - Nov 23 with 2653 views | Herbivore |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:21 - Nov 23 by N2_Blue |
Accrington are 12th?? Based on what? |
Based on the table on TWTD but looks like that may be wrong and they are actually 9th. In any case, it's not exactly a great record. | |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:26 - Nov 23 with 2654 views | homer_123 |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:24 - Nov 23 by N2_Blue |
No...but dodgy pen at Lincoln, and Sunderland would have been a draw minimum without an official who should never set foot on a football pitch again.
Fail to win at least one of the two games at home this week there may be a point but we've not played a top 8 team at home yet so this stat is really unfair |
Here's the thing - ref'ring decisions have no bearing on 'how' we play. Yes, they do affect results (that's football) but they have no affect on ability to our pass a ball, make a tackle, press etc etc etc [Post edited 23 Nov 2020 12:35]
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:28 - Nov 23 with 2636 views | Herbivore |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:24 - Nov 23 by N2_Blue |
No...but dodgy pen at Lincoln, and Sunderland would have been a draw minimum without an official who should never set foot on a football pitch again.
Fail to win at least one of the two games at home this week there may be a point but we've not played a top 8 team at home yet so this stat is really unfair |
But we didn't take anything from those games and I'd say our luck at the weekend makes up for the two points dropped in those two games. | |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:34 - Nov 23 with 2606 views | N2_Blue |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:28 - Nov 23 by Herbivore |
But we didn't take anything from those games and I'd say our luck at the weekend makes up for the two points dropped in those two games. |
well if you are going to make that argument, and this applies to Homer above, i'd say the only thing that matters is: Played 12, Pts 25.
Tell me any supporter who would not have taken that at the start of the season whatever way it was achieved. | |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:38 - Nov 23 with 2577 views | Herbivore |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:34 - Nov 23 by N2_Blue |
well if you are going to make that argument, and this applies to Homer above, i'd say the only thing that matters is: Played 12, Pts 25.
Tell me any supporter who would not have taken that at the start of the season whatever way it was achieved. |
When you look at our fixtures we've done okay, nothing more. We've had an easy start to the season. | |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:40 - Nov 23 with 2572 views | N2_Blue |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:23 - Nov 23 by homer_123 |
I do see where you are coming from.
However, let me ask you a question - it's a simple one.
Based on our overall performances - how do you think we will fair against the better teams in this division? |
I don't know is my answer but i'm optimistic that we can do well against them at home at least. Hull won't put 11 men behind ball like Shrews which will help us.
Play like we did against Sunderland or Blackpool and I think we'll win...I've predicted 2-1 Town v Hull.
I'm not happy with out performances generally or Lambert conducts himself and injuries are seriously hurting us. But i see as much reason as to why we will win tomorrow night as to why we won't.
*And appreciate you trying to see my point even if you don't fully agree. I just think the negativity is over the top...and I'm no Lambert fan (i'd like Paul Cook) | |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:40 - Nov 23 with 2570 views | homer_123 |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:34 - Nov 23 by N2_Blue |
well if you are going to make that argument, and this applies to Homer above, i'd say the only thing that matters is: Played 12, Pts 25.
Tell me any supporter who would not have taken that at the start of the season whatever way it was achieved. |
And you have perfectly illustrated why some fans are concerned.
I'll try and explain.
Lambert comes in after Hurst - he doesn't get us even remotely looking like making a fist of staying the in championship - which is what he's brought in to do.
Last season - we sat top and thereabouts for the early part of the season, even through we were not playing great football - we managed to get results - we then fell away badly and didn't recover.
This season - early performances showed a little better cohesion and consistency with good pressing and at times, decent football. The last 6 or 7 games however, has been a case of deja vu with last season - we sit with 25 points having played 12 games but for the majority of those, the 'performances' are now pretty much the same as last seasons early form.
So, I ask you again, looking longer term - do you think, based on performances, we are going to do well against the better teams in this division? Do you think our performances will see us in the top 2 or top 6 come the end of the season?
For me - no, we have gone backwards since the start of the season - we look very similar to last season now (yes, we've had injuries but we have a big enough squad of players who should be able to performance at this level). My concern lies with the fact that Lambert doesn't appear to getting us to progress.
Yes, we all would take 25 points after 12 games, I don't think anyone would question that but....over the course of the season, the genuine concern remains about our ability to get those results on an ongoing basis. [Post edited 23 Nov 2020 12:43]
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:41 - Nov 23 with 2561 views | N2_Blue |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:38 - Nov 23 by Herbivore |
When you look at our fixtures we've done okay, nothing more. We've had an easy start to the season. |
I wouldn't argue with that, I agree. | |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:42 - Nov 23 with 2558 views | homer_123 |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:40 - Nov 23 by N2_Blue |
I don't know is my answer but i'm optimistic that we can do well against them at home at least. Hull won't put 11 men behind ball like Shrews which will help us.
Play like we did against Sunderland or Blackpool and I think we'll win...I've predicted 2-1 Town v Hull.
I'm not happy with out performances generally or Lambert conducts himself and injuries are seriously hurting us. But i see as much reason as to why we will win tomorrow night as to why we won't.
*And appreciate you trying to see my point even if you don't fully agree. I just think the negativity is over the top...and I'm no Lambert fan (i'd like Paul Cook) |
Look, no issues with you being optimistic at all and I'm pleased for you that you are.
Here's hoping that Lambert can get us going into a 3rd or 4th gear and we can get out of this division....I have to say, I don't think he will but I'd be delighted to be wrong. [Post edited 23 Nov 2020 12:43]
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:51 - Nov 23 with 2511 views | N2_Blue |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:42 - Nov 23 by homer_123 |
Look, no issues with you being optimistic at all and I'm pleased for you that you are.
Here's hoping that Lambert can get us going into a 3rd or 4th gear and we can get out of this division....I have to say, I don't think he will but I'd be delighted to be wrong. [Post edited 23 Nov 2020 12:43]
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I'm not sure he will either, but I'm going to be optimistic based on our current position. Performances have tailed off but we are still on track. We've not had a fit forward this season.
If one of Jackson or Norwood gets a run, they have proved they can score enough at this level to make us a threat.
Injuries are crippling but we have so many midfield options we are fortunate in someways, and for the first time is so many seasons our midfield scores goals, this is massively encouraging. Lancaster and Dozzell will only get stronger with more games and experience. The form of Edwards and Chambers this season is a massive boost.
Even Holy has stepped up when we've need him. He's shaky at times but has not cost us and he won us the game against Crewe.
So there are positives... and I'm just cannot believe we will capitulate as badly as last year no matter how incompetent Lambert can be at times. | |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 13:00 - Nov 23 with 2469 views | NewcyBlue |
Lambert out! |  |
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| Hull must be rubbish! on 13:19 - Nov 23 with 2415 views | keighleyblue |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 12:21 - Nov 23 by Herbivore |
Is it really asking a lot to take at least one point from away games at Lincoln, Doncaster, and Sunderland? Standards really have lowered. |
Yes because those teams should just roll over and give us the 3 points, after all they have nothing to play for whereas the mighty Ipswich.... |  | | |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 13:21 - Nov 23 with 2403 views | Herbivore |
| Hull must be rubbish! on 13:19 - Nov 23 by keighleyblue |
Yes because those teams should just roll over and give us the 3 points, after all they have nothing to play for whereas the mighty Ipswich.... |
What a bizarre response. I'm not expecting them to roll over, but I am expecting us to be good enough to pick up at least a point from 270 minutes of football against the likes of Lincoln, Doncaster and Sunderland. If you view those games as ones in which we aren't good enough to expect to pick up even one point across the three games then you're entitled to that view, but it's an overly pessimistic analysis imo. | |
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