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4 4 2 17:45 - Mar 27 with 1030 viewschrismakin

Just to save further posts about only having 1 upfront again.

We didnt

And it made no difference

So time to put the 4 4 2 desire to bed.

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4 4 2 on 17:48 - Mar 27 with 1001 viewsDennyx4

Sorry disagree, from what I saw it was 4231 - With Edwards, Judge & Sears behind Norwood
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4 4 2 on 17:48 - Mar 27 by Dennyx4

Sorry disagree, from what I saw it was 4231 - With Edwards, Judge & Sears behind Norwood


Changed to 442 when Jackson came on
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4 4 2 on 17:49 - Mar 27 with 984 viewschrismakin

4 4 2 on 17:48 - Mar 27 by Dennyx4

Sorry disagree, from what I saw it was 4231 - With Edwards, Judge & Sears behind Norwood


What do you see as a front 2 out of interest

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4 4 2 on 17:49 - Mar 27 with 981 viewshaynes_toe1

4 4 2 isn't some magical formula to make us score goals.

However under Cook we have somehow managed to become even less creative and I've seen nothing to suggest he is capable of changing that.
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4 4 2 on 17:50 - Mar 27 with 966 viewsDennyx4

4 4 2 on 17:49 - Mar 27 by chrismakin

What do you see as a front 2 out of interest


Two strikers up against the two centre halfs - that wasn't the case in the first half.
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4 4 2 on 17:51 - Mar 27 with 955 viewschrismakin

4 4 2 on 17:49 - Mar 27 by haynes_toe1

4 4 2 isn't some magical formula to make us score goals.

However under Cook we have somehow managed to become even less creative and I've seen nothing to suggest he is capable of changing that.


Less creative... weve barely created anything all season. Its not new to us.

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4 4 2 on 17:51 - Mar 27 with 955 viewsBelsteadCav

Why didn’t you put that on the thread below?

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4 4 2 on 17:51 - Mar 27 with 948 viewschrismakin

4 4 2 on 17:50 - Mar 27 by Dennyx4

Two strikers up against the two centre halfs - that wasn't the case in the first half.


Yes it was. Sears dropped deeper in partnership with Norwood. That was a 4 4 2.

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4 4 2 on 17:52 - Mar 27 with 941 viewsPJH

4 4 2 on 17:50 - Mar 27 by Dennyx4

Two strikers up against the two centre halfs - that wasn't the case in the first half.


Ah that is where you are going wrong, first half was 4 4 2 with only one up front, you are thinking of 4 4 2 with two up front.
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4 4 2 on 17:54 - Mar 27 with 926 viewsBloomBlue

All of Cook's success has came with playing 1 up front, I don't see him changing that.
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4 4 2 on 17:54 - Mar 27 with 912 viewsDennyx4

4 4 2 on 17:51 - Mar 27 by chrismakin

Yes it was. Sears dropped deeper in partnership with Norwood. That was a 4 4 2.


Agree to disagree - In my view Sears didn't drop deep, he started deeper. You want the three behind Norwood to get ahead of him & get involved.

Also Sears and Judge swapped positions a few times during the first half, that just doesn't happen in a 442.
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4 4 2 on 17:55 - Mar 27 with 901 viewsDennyx4

4 4 2 on 17:52 - Mar 27 by PJH

Ah that is where you are going wrong, first half was 4 4 2 with only one up front, you are thinking of 4 4 2 with two up front.


Sorry, obviously getting confused. One up front means 442 now. Got it.
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4 4 2 on 17:57 - Mar 27 with 886 viewsPJH

4 4 2 on 17:55 - Mar 27 by Dennyx4

Sorry, obviously getting confused. One up front means 442 now. Got it.


That's what the clever coaches do, they play 4 4 2 with one up front.
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4 4 2 on 17:59 - Mar 27 with 883 viewschrismakin

4 4 2 on 17:54 - Mar 27 by Dennyx4

Agree to disagree - In my view Sears didn't drop deep, he started deeper. You want the three behind Norwood to get ahead of him & get involved.

Also Sears and Judge swapped positions a few times during the first half, that just doesn't happen in a 442.


It can happen. It's a support striker in a 4 4 2

Theres many different versions of a 4 4 2 first half we had 1 version. 2nd half we had another.

The biggest issue again with this... which ever way you go... we had 0 wing play.

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4 4 2 on 19:06 - Mar 27 with 826 viewshaynes_toe1

4 4 2 on 17:51 - Mar 27 by chrismakin

Less creative... weve barely created anything all season. Its not new to us.


Yeah so it's concerning we've been even less so and averaged less goals since Cook has come in, considering what a poor point we were starting from.
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4 4 2 on 19:10 - Mar 27 with 811 viewssaffers12

4 4 2 on 17:55 - Mar 27 by Dennyx4

Sorry, obviously getting confused. One up front means 442 now. Got it.


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4 4 2 on 19:13 - Mar 27 with 800 viewschrismakin

4 4 2 on 19:06 - Mar 27 by haynes_toe1

Yeah so it's concerning we've been even less so and averaged less goals since Cook has come in, considering what a poor point we were starting from.


Not really

A few handful of games at the front end of the season makes up a good % of our goals scored. Realistically since November we have offered nothing going forwards

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4 4 2 on 19:19 - Mar 27 with 770 viewsZXBlue

4 4 2 on 17:49 - Mar 27 by haynes_toe1

4 4 2 isn't some magical formula to make us score goals.

However under Cook we have somehow managed to become even less creative and I've seen nothing to suggest he is capable of changing that.


That is simply untrue.

We played more in the opposition half today. We made a few nice creative moves which didn't get finished. It was not good enough, but this is going to take time. There was more attacking intent than in many Lambert games.

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4 4 2 on 19:22 - Mar 27 with 762 viewsPique

4 4 2 on 17:59 - Mar 27 by chrismakin

It can happen. It's a support striker in a 4 4 2

Theres many different versions of a 4 4 2 first half we had 1 version. 2nd half we had another.

The biggest issue again with this... which ever way you go... we had 0 wing play.


We had 0 wing play because we started the game with 0 wingers.
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4 4 2 on 19:23 - Mar 27 with 758 viewschrismakin

4 4 2 on 19:19 - Mar 27 by ZXBlue

That is simply untrue.

We played more in the opposition half today. We made a few nice creative moves which didn't get finished. It was not good enough, but this is going to take time. There was more attacking intent than in many Lambert games.

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The pain is exactly what paul says it is... players waiting for someone else to do something. When wigan got in our area the went for goal. When we get close we look lost and end up facing our own goal.

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4 4 2 on 19:34 - Mar 27 with 740 viewschrismakin

4 4 2 on 19:22 - Mar 27 by Pique

We had 0 wing play because we started the game with 0 wingers.


Erm Edwards. That was his job.

He was crp at it but that was his job.

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4 4 2 on 20:00 - Mar 27 with 706 viewsPique

4 4 2 on 19:34 - Mar 27 by chrismakin

Erm Edwards. That was his job.

He was crp at it but that was his job.


I’m sorry, but Edwards is not a winger and never has been. Can’t beat a man, can’t get to the byline, can’t cross.

He’s a very average right midfielder, a sort of crap Paul Anderson.
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