| So, stop me if i'm wrong 19:39 - Apr 13 with 1777 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
but, I make this three seasons on the trot now that pretty much this squad of players have effectively downed tools, before the season was up? |  |
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| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 19:43 - Apr 13 with 1703 views | RegencyBlue |
There won’t be a fourth hopefully! |  | | |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 19:46 - Apr 13 with 1664 views | bluejacko |
They can’t say Cook hasn’t given any of them a chance can they.
Absolute bunch of tossers |  | | |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 19:58 - Apr 13 with 1544 views | Parky |
This is part of the reason Chambers has to go. Played a massive part of instilling this loser mentality and downing tools whenever we get to the important part of the season. | | | |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:10 - Apr 13 with 1465 views | BlueBadger |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 19:58 - Apr 13 by Parky |
This is part of the reason Chambers has to go. Played a massive part of instilling this loser mentality and downing tools whenever we get to the important part of the season. |
You must have a very high opinion of Chambers if you think that not only has he been playing and captaining the side but he's been responsible for coaching, tactics, motivation, transfer policy, team selection and overall club policy all this time. [Post edited 13 Apr 2021 20:13]
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| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:19 - Apr 13 with 1412 views | blueprint |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 19:58 - Apr 13 by Parky |
This is part of the reason Chambers has to go. Played a massive part of instilling this loser mentality and downing tools whenever we get to the important part of the season. |
Yeah it’s all Chambers fault.
He’s the only one who deserves some respect. |  | | |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:21 - Apr 13 with 1395 views | Parky |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:10 - Apr 13 by BlueBadger |
You must have a very high opinion of Chambers if you think that not only has he been playing and captaining the side but he's been responsible for coaching, tactics, motivation, transfer policy, team selection and overall club policy all this time. [Post edited 13 Apr 2021 20:13]
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You repeat this every single time somebody criticises Chambers. “Played a massive part” not once did I say he’s in charge and/or responsible for all of the ridiculous things you’ve listed.
He’s been our captain, our ‘leader’ throughout our entire demise, he’s part of the worst Ipswich side ever. I’m sure he’s a nice bloke, but he’s been a massive part of our demise whether you like it or not. | | | |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:22 - Apr 13 with 1372 views | pointofblue |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:10 - Apr 13 by BlueBadger |
You must have a very high opinion of Chambers if you think that not only has he been playing and captaining the side but he's been responsible for coaching, tactics, motivation, transfer policy, team selection and overall club policy all this time. [Post edited 13 Apr 2021 20:13]
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To be fair I would argue a key aspect of the captain’s role is to provide motivation. | |
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| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:23 - Apr 13 with 1372 views | Parky |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:19 - Apr 13 by blueprint |
Yeah it’s all Chambers fault.
He’s the only one who deserves some respect. |
Where did I say that? I said he’s played a ‘massive part’ which he has. He’s been our club captain through our entire demise and is part of the worst Ipswich team ever.
He gets my respect for his long service and commitment, but that doesn’t warrant him a free pass. | | | |
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| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:23 - Apr 13 with 1362 views | BlueBadger |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:21 - Apr 13 by Parky |
You repeat this every single time somebody criticises Chambers. “Played a massive part” not once did I say he’s in charge and/or responsible for all of the ridiculous things you’ve listed.
He’s been our captain, our ‘leader’ throughout our entire demise, he’s part of the worst Ipswich side ever. I’m sure he’s a nice bloke, but he’s been a massive part of our demise whether you like it or not. |
'He’s been our captain, our ‘leader’ throughout our entire demise'
You basically, just did. Right there.
At some point, you're going to have to let the fact that Mick liked him go. | |
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| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:25 - Apr 13 with 1325 views | BlueBadger |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:22 - Apr 13 by pointofblue |
To be fair I would argue a key aspect of the captain’s role is to provide motivation. |
But if the manager isn't also providing that, he's basically pissing in the wind. | |
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| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:25 - Apr 13 with 1324 views | Parky |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:22 - Apr 13 by pointofblue |
To be fair I would argue a key aspect of the captain’s role is to provide motivation. |
This. Everybody talks about a poor losing mentality at the club, even McGoldrick and Bialkowski mentioned it when they left, whilst obviously Chambers isn’t solely responsible; a club captain has to take some of the responsibility in my opinion. | | | |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:26 - Apr 13 with 1303 views | Mullet |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 19:58 - Apr 13 by Parky |
This is part of the reason Chambers has to go. Played a massive part of instilling this loser mentality and downing tools whenever we get to the important part of the season. |
How has he done that exactly? |  |
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| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:27 - Apr 13 with 1266 views | BlueBadger |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:26 - Apr 13 by Mullet |
How has he done that exactly? |
Basically, well, it's because Mick liked him. | |
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| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:28 - Apr 13 with 1248 views | Parky |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:23 - Apr 13 by BlueBadger |
'He’s been our captain, our ‘leader’ throughout our entire demise'
You basically, just did. Right there.
At some point, you're going to have to let the fact that Mick liked him go. |
I couldn’t care that Mick liked him, what a strange flex.
Completely ignore every single valid point I have made, each to their own. | | | |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:29 - Apr 13 with 1226 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
They have failed to perform consistently from the day MM left. |  |
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| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:29 - Apr 13 with 1201 views | Parky |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:26 - Apr 13 by Mullet |
How has he done that exactly? |
Feel free to read above. | | | |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:32 - Apr 13 with 1172 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:26 - Apr 13 by Mullet |
How has he done that exactly? |
He did put his fingers in his ears when he scored, that was good fun. |  |
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| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:37 - Apr 13 with 1125 views | BlueBadger |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:28 - Apr 13 by Parky |
I couldn’t care that Mick liked him, what a strange flex.
Completely ignore every single valid point I have made, each to their own. |
You haven't made any valid points, you just let your inner Numbskull run riot. | |
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| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:40 - Apr 13 with 1076 views | Parky |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:37 - Apr 13 by BlueBadger |
You haven't made any valid points, you just let your inner Numbskull run riot. |
Evidence to me how my initial statement is in anyway shape or form incorrect. “Luke Chambers has played a massive part in our clubs demise and is part of the our worst ever side”.
You’ve previously openly admitted you never used to go, or watch us, so I’ll take your opinion with a pinch of salt. | | | |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:43 - Apr 13 with 1053 views | Mullet |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:29 - Apr 13 by Parky |
Feel free to read above. |
You went in with "massive part" to "some responsibility". That's not even consistent let alone remotely exact though.
So what has he done above all else, and all others senior to him with decision making remits that makes that add up exactly?
How do you explain his and the teams performances at the start of the season if this is 3 year issue? Let alone a 3 manager issue etc? | |
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| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:53 - Apr 13 with 986 views | Parky |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:43 - Apr 13 by Mullet |
You went in with "massive part" to "some responsibility". That's not even consistent let alone remotely exact though.
So what has he done above all else, and all others senior to him with decision making remits that makes that add up exactly?
How do you explain his and the teams performances at the start of the season if this is 3 year issue? Let alone a 3 manager issue etc? |
If you don’t think a club captain plays a “massive part” in the teams morale and mentality, we’ll have to agree to disagree.
As mentioned before Mcgoldrick and Bialkowski touched on this poor mentality along the lines of “there is no pressure to win and achieve” which has been absolutely spot on, every failure has just been forgiven and accepted, until this takeover and the inevitable huge clear out incoming. | | | |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:58 - Apr 13 with 947 views | Mullet |
| So, stop me if i'm wrong on 20:53 - Apr 13 by Parky |
If you don’t think a club captain plays a “massive part” in the teams morale and mentality, we’ll have to agree to disagree.
As mentioned before Mcgoldrick and Bialkowski touched on this poor mentality along the lines of “there is no pressure to win and achieve” which has been absolutely spot on, every failure has just been forgiven and accepted, until this takeover and the inevitable huge clear out incoming. |
But how does this repeated anecdote from McG and BB land at Chambers' feet and not the managers, owner, the fans etc?
You're just throwing two vague ideas together and being dismissive when asked for more than the dots here.
What has Chambers (not) done specifically which so clear and obviously down to him? Your anecdote can easily be countered by Lankester's Dad repeatedly praising him on twitter etc not just for Jack's progress but in everything he does.
Are we to assume then that your point is just cancelled out or is it actually more substantive than "read above" and repeat? | |
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