| PC said it and I agree.... 22:18 - Aug 21 with 1772 views | norfsufblue |
Where do you want to be playing your football when you are leading?
And for me shuffling it from full back to full back is asking for trouble...
These are league one players and someone will occasionally muck up and mistakes that close to your own goal will lead to repeated disaster as we have seen this season.
We must get the ball to our better players further up the field for more of the game and in particular when we have just scored... we seem to repeatedly go into our shell when we do so.. we must be more positive for much more of the game... |  | | |  |
| PC said it and I agree.... on 22:19 - Aug 21 with 1729 views | portmanking |
I found myself scratching my head at that comment. Because SURELY the keeper and centre halves are playing that way under Cook's orders?! |  | | |
| PC said it and I agree.... on 22:20 - Aug 21 with 1723 views | pointofblue |
The issue today was we couldn't play through midfield - the defence didn't have a ball out and therefore we were stuck with the ball at the back, inviting trouble. It was hopefully just one of those games. | |
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| PC said it and I agree.... on 22:28 - Aug 21 with 1661 views | chrismakin |
| PC said it and I agree.... on 22:19 - Aug 21 by portmanking |
I found myself scratching my head at that comment. Because SURELY the keeper and centre halves are playing that way under Cook's orders?! |
No manager can control what happens in game. That's the trust PC speaks of. Over time players will start to be calmer on the ball. Trust each other and know ways of doing things, at the moment they're playing a bit safe, when they start to understand their team mates. You'll find the play will start to spread alot quicker and more direct. |  |
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| PC said it and I agree.... on 10:10 - Aug 22 with 1344 views | Guthrum |
It's a different situation doing that when the opposition have 10 men behind the ball and our CBs are nearly on the half-way line, as we look for a way through a tight formation, than it is passing around 20 yards from our own goal with the other side on the front foot. In both cases an interception can be disastrous, but the first is necessary build-up to an attack when the other team has been able to organise its defence. |  |
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| PC said it and I agree.... on 12:38 - Aug 22 with 1255 views | Herbivore |
| PC said it and I agree.... on 22:28 - Aug 21 by chrismakin |
No manager can control what happens in game. That's the trust PC speaks of. Over time players will start to be calmer on the ball. Trust each other and know ways of doing things, at the moment they're playing a bit safe, when they start to understand their team mates. You'll find the play will start to spread alot quicker and more direct. |
"No manager can control what happens in game" - then why bother having a manager in the dugout at all? I know you've gone hard on thinking Cook can do no wrong but it's getting a bit silly now. |  |
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| PC said it and I agree.... on 14:05 - Aug 22 with 1146 views | chrismakin |
| PC said it and I agree.... on 12:38 - Aug 22 by Herbivore |
"No manager can control what happens in game" - then why bother having a manager in the dugout at all? I know you've gone hard on thinking Cook can do no wrong but it's getting a bit silly now. |
I'm talking about what players do themselves. They aren't puppets on strings. | |
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| PC said it and I agree.... on 14:47 - Aug 22 with 1072 views | Herbivore |
| PC said it and I agree.... on 14:05 - Aug 22 by chrismakin |
I'm talking about what players do themselves. They aren't puppets on strings. |
Oh right, sorry I thought it was like FIFA and Cook sat in the dugout with a PS5 controller making them all move. Or maybe there's a middle ground between the manager having no control over what happens on the pitch and him literally controlling the players like a puppeteer. | |
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| PC said it and I agree.... on 14:57 - Aug 22 with 1034 views | chrismakin |
| PC said it and I agree.... on 14:47 - Aug 22 by Herbivore |
Oh right, sorry I thought it was like FIFA and Cook sat in the dugout with a PS5 controller making them all move. Or maybe there's a middle ground between the manager having no control over what happens on the pitch and him literally controlling the players like a puppeteer. |
What point are you actually trying to make? | |
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| PC said it and I agree.... on 17:19 - Aug 22 with 909 views | Herbivore |
| PC said it and I agree.... on 14:57 - Aug 22 by chrismakin |
What point are you actually trying to make? |
That you're wrong, as usual. | |
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| PC said it and I agree.... on 17:23 - Aug 22 with 891 views | chrismakin |
| PC said it and I agree.... on 17:19 - Aug 22 by Herbivore |
That you're wrong, as usual. |
How so..
Do you see invisible strings on players and cook controlling them then.
If not. Then you understand the point that once the players cross that line then you lose personal control and you have to trust those you've selected.
You can get messages across. But you can't control exactly what they do. Thus why PC is frustrated at things he's seen over the games and mentioned them afterwards. [Post edited 22 Aug 2021 17:33]
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| PC said it and I agree.... on 17:39 - Aug 22 with 847 views | Churchman |
| PC said it and I agree.... on 17:23 - Aug 22 by chrismakin |
How so..
Do you see invisible strings on players and cook controlling them then.
If not. Then you understand the point that once the players cross that line then you lose personal control and you have to trust those you've selected.
You can get messages across. But you can't control exactly what they do. Thus why PC is frustrated at things he's seen over the games and mentioned them afterwards. [Post edited 22 Aug 2021 17:33]
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It’s an interesting point as to how much influence a manager has with players on the pitch when they are actually playing. With Jim and Keane, they used to flee to the other side of the pitch when they were raving. It was funny. With Mick and Terry Connor they used to bark a bit at the players, but I’m not sure it made any difference most of the time. A players view would be interesting. |  | | |
| PC said it and I agree.... on 17:44 - Aug 22 with 832 views | chrismakin |
| PC said it and I agree.... on 17:39 - Aug 22 by Churchman |
It’s an interesting point as to how much influence a manager has with players on the pitch when they are actually playing. With Jim and Keane, they used to flee to the other side of the pitch when they were raving. It was funny. With Mick and Terry Connor they used to bark a bit at the players, but I’m not sure it made any difference most of the time. A players view would be interesting. |
I'd say it's normal if your shouting team instructions. But if you're having to coach to individuals from the sidelines you're heading for trouble. | |
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| PC said it and I agree.... on 18:52 - Aug 22 with 727 views | Vic |
| PC said it and I agree.... on 22:20 - Aug 21 by pointofblue |
The issue today was we couldn't play through midfield - the defence didn't have a ball out and therefore we were stuck with the ball at the back, inviting trouble. It was hopefully just one of those games. |
Exactly. Which is why I thought we were so much better when Carroll came on. |  |
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