| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 12:23 - Aug 25 with 4165 views | Wickets |
Like most on here i hate praising Norwich but over the last decade they have got so much more right then we do IMO . The above is yet another example their attitude to cup matches as the above result shows while we seem to send our players out with the message that these cup games have little or no importance they (Norwich) seem very much up for them . Love PC and want to back him as much as i can but he seems to have made the same mistake as previous Town managers . I would be ok with our disappointing performances in these competitions if after them we won our league game but if anything it seems to be the opposite . I also feel its disrespectful to the loyal fans that attend these matches . The recent game against a weak Newport side was a great chance to get a moral boosting big win to help kick start what we all hope is going to be a successful season a chance missed . |  | | |  |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:25 - Aug 25 with 3127 views | SitfcB |
How many cups have they won over the last decade? |  |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:31 - Aug 25 with 3091 views | BlueBadger |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:25 - Aug 25 by SitfcB |
How many cups have they won over the last decade? |
You appear to have spelt 'forever' wrongly there. |  |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:39 - Aug 25 with 3033 views | abracaDOBRA_ |
I mean they lost to Crawley in the same cup 2 years back. |  | | |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:43 - Aug 25 with 2995 views | Wickets |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:25 - Aug 25 by SitfcB |
How many cups have they won over the last decade? |
My point is that not putting in good performances in cup games seems to be detremental to our league form and our team moral . Absolutely nothing to do with winning cups . If you are happy with us putting in poor performances in these games well fine but i am not . | | | |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:43 - Aug 25 with 2991 views | The_Romford_Blue |
They made the same number of changes as we did.. 10 |  |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:47 - Aug 25 with 2965 views | BlueBadger |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:43 - Aug 25 by Wickets |
My point is that not putting in good performances in cup games seems to be detremental to our league form and our team moral . Absolutely nothing to do with winning cups . If you are happy with us putting in poor performances in these games well fine but i am not . |
They'll still get relegated. | |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:49 - Aug 25 with 2964 views | Wickets |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:43 - Aug 25 by The_Romford_Blue |
They made the same number of changes as we did.. 10 |
OK but i think its about attitude more than the changes made . Players from our first team squad lost at home to Newport reserves . For me thats not good enough. I just feel that whenever we play these games we send players out we the message in the back of their mind that these games do not matter . That for me is sloppy . But its ok to disagree . | | | |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:51 - Aug 25 with 2945 views | Wickets |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:47 - Aug 25 by BlueBadger |
They'll still get relegated. |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:54 - Aug 25 with 2933 views | Illinoisblue |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:49 - Aug 25 by Wickets |
OK but i think its about attitude more than the changes made . Players from our first team squad lost at home to Newport reserves . For me thats not good enough. I just feel that whenever we play these games we send players out we the message in the back of their mind that these games do not matter . That for me is sloppy . But its ok to disagree . |
It’s not just attitude, it’s quality of players. They have enough strength in depth to beat a championship reserve side. We didn’t have enough to beat a League 2 reserve side.
Anyway maybe this is the season we’ll improve our FA Cup record of 1 win in 18 games. |  |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 13:17 - Aug 25 with 2808 views | SitfcB |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:39 - Aug 25 by abracaDOBRA_ |
I mean they lost to Crawley in the same cup 2 years back. |
And non-League Luton Town in the FA Cup a few years back. | |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 13:18 - Aug 25 with 2800 views | SitfcB |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:43 - Aug 25 by Wickets |
My point is that not putting in good performances in cup games seems to be detremental to our league form and our team moral . Absolutely nothing to do with winning cups . If you are happy with us putting in poor performances in these games well fine but i am not . |
We didn’t put in a poor performance against Newport. | |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 13:34 - Aug 25 with 2696 views | Swansea_Blue |
It’s hardly a cricket score! Their fans could even count the goals on one hand. |  |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 14:18 - Aug 25 with 2551 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Do you mean to say Bournemouth take the cup even less seriously than us?
Two sides to every story!
I do, however, look forward to them resting Pukki and Zimmerframeman in some match against their relegation rivals ready for the FA Cup 3rd round. |  |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 14:23 - Aug 25 with 2520 views | Wickets |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:54 - Aug 25 by Illinoisblue |
It’s not just attitude, it’s quality of players. They have enough strength in depth to beat a championship reserve side. We didn’t have enough to beat a League 2 reserve side.
Anyway maybe this is the season we’ll improve our FA Cup record of 1 win in 18 games. |
That would be great . One look at our league game results after Cup defeats over the past half a dozen years or so tells a tale for me . | | | |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 14:23 - Aug 25 with 2517 views | TractorCam |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 12:49 - Aug 25 by Wickets |
OK but i think its about attitude more than the changes made . Players from our first team squad lost at home to Newport reserves . For me thats not good enough. I just feel that whenever we play these games we send players out we the message in the back of their mind that these games do not matter . That for me is sloppy . But its ok to disagree . |
We played really well against Newport, 99 times out of 100 we win that game. Much different to the other cup losses over the years. |  |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 14:25 - Aug 25 with 2497 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 14:23 - Aug 25 by Wickets |
That would be great . One look at our league game results after Cup defeats over the past half a dozen years or so tells a tale for me . |
Indeed, resting players hasn't exactly helped with league performances for Town, has it?
As far as nodge are concerned, it must be a nice break from the predictability of the league to see them play like that in a cup. I wonder whether their fans will continue to be happy with the club's yoyo model. | |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 14:30 - Aug 25 with 2473 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 14:23 - Aug 25 by TractorCam |
We played really well against Newport, 99 times out of 100 we win that game. Much different to the other cup losses over the years. |
Could you say that about most of our league performances too?
If so, that means we have had the 1 in 100 for 5 matches out of 5. The probability of that is 1 in 10,000,000,000. I would suggest we have not had that freak set of outcomes and that it is a much lower percentage of those games we would have won.
EDIT: Or to put it another way, there is a reason we are not winning games at the moment. Be that poor defending, tactics, naivety, the need to gel or a combination of all of those (and maybe more). [Post edited 25 Aug 2021 14:33]
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 14:39 - Aug 25 with 2434 views | TractorCam |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 14:30 - Aug 25 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Could you say that about most of our league performances too?
If so, that means we have had the 1 in 100 for 5 matches out of 5. The probability of that is 1 in 10,000,000,000. I would suggest we have not had that freak set of outcomes and that it is a much lower percentage of those games we would have won.
EDIT: Or to put it another way, there is a reason we are not winning games at the moment. Be that poor defending, tactics, naivety, the need to gel or a combination of all of those (and maybe more). [Post edited 25 Aug 2021 14:33]
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No, but that definitely applies to Newport. | |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 14:53 - Aug 25 with 2369 views | NthQldITFC |
Don't forget that the Rumbelows/Milk Cup thingy has always been the height of their aspirations.
It's not certain that they are actually aware that proper competitions even exist! |  |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 14:56 - Aug 25 with 2351 views | NthQldITFC |
Strangely enough, I once dropped an E in Bournemouth, and also had an unexpectedly good score. | |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 15:28 - Aug 25 with 2246 views | doodah |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 14:25 - Aug 25 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Indeed, resting players hasn't exactly helped with league performances for Town, has it?
As far as nodge are concerned, it must be a nice break from the predictability of the league to see them play like that in a cup. I wonder whether their fans will continue to be happy with the club's yoyo model. |
Probably more happier with that model yo-yoing between the champs and premiership, than the model of consolidating in league one I suspect.
It's really pointless having a go at them for being in a position as a club that far exceeds our own. Yo-yoing between champs and premier league has just enabled them to spend £50m + on new players. Are you really suggesting you wouldn't want us to be in that position? |  | | |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 15:35 - Aug 25 with 2221 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 15:28 - Aug 25 by doodah |
Probably more happier with that model yo-yoing between the champs and premiership, than the model of consolidating in league one I suspect.
It's really pointless having a go at them for being in a position as a club that far exceeds our own. Yo-yoing between champs and premier league has just enabled them to spend £50m + on new players. Are you really suggesting you wouldn't want us to be in that position? |
Nope, I wasn't commenting on us at all nor was I "having a go at them" at all.
All I questioned was whether their fans will continue to be happy with that model.
Your take to the compare them to us. Your choice, not mine. | |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 15:59 - Aug 25 with 2154 views | timothyeo |
It just shows the gap between the championship and Premier league is bigger than it ever was.
Norwich made ten changes, Bournemouth made eight.
The difference is this season Norwich signed some incredibly talented players (anyone who follows football outside of England, how on earth did they get Rashica and Tzolis?!) Who haven't even represented them in the prem this season.
And Norwich are a lowly Premier League team. I think they'll finish lower midtable but it just shows how quickly the gap grows between the divisions. | | | |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 16:06 - Aug 25 with 2128 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 15:59 - Aug 25 by timothyeo |
It just shows the gap between the championship and Premier league is bigger than it ever was.
Norwich made ten changes, Bournemouth made eight.
The difference is this season Norwich signed some incredibly talented players (anyone who follows football outside of England, how on earth did they get Rashica and Tzolis?!) Who haven't even represented them in the prem this season.
And Norwich are a lowly Premier League team. I think they'll finish lower midtable but it just shows how quickly the gap grows between the divisions. |
I am not convinced. On what basis are Rashica and Tzolis incredibly talented players? Have they played at Premier League level? Or are they more the typical nodge signings? Ones with potential to develop into very good Premier League players. Get them in, develop them, sell them for a big profit. It has been their (very successful) model for many years now. It gets their fans to see some very good players.
If the gap was truly bigger than ever, fewer teams would stay up than ever before. I am not sure that is the case. It has always been the case that teams need to invest to stay in that league when they get there. Instead, they cash in on their most saleable assets and look to develop the next ones. It is a model that serves them very well. | |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 16:28 - Aug 25 with 2080 views | Mediocre_Quick |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 16:06 - Aug 25 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I am not convinced. On what basis are Rashica and Tzolis incredibly talented players? Have they played at Premier League level? Or are they more the typical nodge signings? Ones with potential to develop into very good Premier League players. Get them in, develop them, sell them for a big profit. It has been their (very successful) model for many years now. It gets their fans to see some very good players.
If the gap was truly bigger than ever, fewer teams would stay up than ever before. I am not sure that is the case. It has always been the case that teams need to invest to stay in that league when they get there. Instead, they cash in on their most saleable assets and look to develop the next ones. It is a model that serves them very well. |
Rashica carried Bremen and was the only stand out in a p*ss poor team that eventually got relegated from the Bundesliga
Tzolis is allegedly 'the future of greek football'
I hate to say it, but Norwich do pick up some gems sometimes, something I wish we did more often |  | | |
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