| coaching 12:01 - Sep 10 with 1368 views | Crinkle59 |
Am I being cynical when I rate our "new" coaches as being below the level the clup needs/I can't rate them highly as players or for their coaching experience. the better the players ,the better the coches needed. IS PC trying to do it all on his own? |  | | |  |
| coaching on 12:05 - Sep 10 with 1359 views | Steve_M |
No, it's been much discussed over the last couple of months and will continue to be whilst the team displays such basic organisational failings on a regular basis. |  |
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| coaching on 12:08 - Sep 10 with 1330 views | chrismakin |
| coaching on 12:05 - Sep 10 by Steve_M |
No, it's been much discussed over the last couple of months and will continue to be whilst the team displays such basic organisational failings on a regular basis. |
Yes
To much is being made of a set up which falls inline with previous coaching set ups by PC
The type of individal errors are being blamed on the coaches despite it being more of an individual issue rather than a lack of coaching.
Having a new Keeper commanding his area, 2 commanding CB's partnering each other, should hopefully sort out the individual errors |  |
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| coaching on 13:31 - Sep 10 with 1240 views | Steve_M |
| coaching on 12:08 - Sep 10 by chrismakin |
Yes
To much is being made of a set up which falls inline with previous coaching set ups by PC
The type of individal errors are being blamed on the coaches despite it being more of an individual issue rather than a lack of coaching.
Having a new Keeper commanding his area, 2 commanding CB's partnering each other, should hopefully sort out the individual errors |
We have conceded five goals from set pieces in the last three league matches. It's winning out on goals from players giving the ball away (three). | |
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| coaching on 13:41 - Sep 10 with 1203 views | chrismakin |
| coaching on 13:31 - Sep 10 by Steve_M |
We have conceded five goals from set pieces in the last three league matches. It's winning out on goals from players giving the ball away (three). |
Whilst I agree, the likes of Harper stood in one place in one of those goals - that's not coaching, that's the player doing what he wants not what he's told.
We've seen the horrors with Hladky, Walton will perhaps bring more steel to setpiece organisation. | |
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| But surely that IS coaching. on 14:00 - Sep 10 with 1165 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| coaching on 13:41 - Sep 10 by chrismakin |
Whilst I agree, the likes of Harper stood in one place in one of those goals - that's not coaching, that's the player doing what he wants not what he's told.
We've seen the horrors with Hladky, Walton will perhaps bring more steel to setpiece organisation. |
If a player is repeatedly making the same mistake and the coach is telling him to rectify it and not getting him to, it's the coach's fault because it represents his/her failure to get their point across. If the coach keeps picking a player who is consistently not following his/her advice, then the coach is at fault. |  |
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| But surely that IS coaching. on 14:46 - Sep 10 with 1111 views | chrismakin |
| But surely that IS coaching. on 14:00 - Sep 10 by OriginalMarkyP |
If a player is repeatedly making the same mistake and the coach is telling him to rectify it and not getting him to, it's the coach's fault because it represents his/her failure to get their point across. If the coach keeps picking a player who is consistently not following his/her advice, then the coach is at fault. |
I can't personally recall Harper being singled out on more than 1 occasion in regards to set pieces, which I'm referring to.
I've yet to see an individual error repeated. We've just seen other 'new individual errors' lol. Which to me shows the coaches have seen it, spoken about it and stopped that individaul doing the same thing again, which is what coaching is all about. But certain things have needed sorting, which potentially falls into your last sentence, with Walton coming in, it may restrict the risk somewhat of conceding more silly goals from set pieces. We will see. | |
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| coaching on 16:48 - Sep 10 with 1032 views | _sanctimoanious_ |
Certainly doesn’t match up to Norwich u23 coach Matt Gill and Stuart Taylor. Also nothing on Paul Hirst and Doig when we were a level higher! Does Cook even know what a football coach is? |  | | |
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| coaching on 17:49 - Sep 10 with 955 views | Bluedicea |
I think the strategy is different for the coaching staff and the team.
I think over the next year and when we go up, we will take time to identify and start trying to recruit more/better coaches.
The fact was Cook needed to have the coaches setup, way before any players started arriving, so rather than go the route that takes time, they went for coaches that Cook knew and identified as capable, so it would give the backroom staff a feeling of unity, which would hopefully translate to the players, rather than the whole club being all strangers.
My tuppence worth. |  |
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| coaching on 18:54 - Sep 10 with 910 views | BlueBadger |
| coaching on 16:48 - Sep 10 by _sanctimoanious_ |
Certainly doesn’t match up to Norwich u23 coach Matt Gill and Stuart Taylor. Also nothing on Paul Hirst and Doig when we were a level higher! Does Cook even know what a football coach is? |
It's a big bus that takes supporters to a match... |  |
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| coaching on 09:25 - Sep 11 with 745 views | strikalite |
| coaching on 12:05 - Sep 10 by Steve_M |
No, it's been much discussed over the last couple of months and will continue to be whilst the team displays such basic organisational failings on a regular basis. |
I just hope Cook doesn't play this zonal marking, I'm not seeing players getting hold of players, the basics if it's picking up an opponent.. |  | | |
| So you’re saying it’s the players….. on 11:31 - Sep 11 with 692 views | Bloots |
| coaching on 12:08 - Sep 10 by chrismakin |
Yes
To much is being made of a set up which falls inline with previous coaching set ups by PC
The type of individal errors are being blamed on the coaches despite it being more of an individual issue rather than a lack of coaching.
Having a new Keeper commanding his area, 2 commanding CB's partnering each other, should hopefully sort out the individual errors |
….that are the reason we’re in the relegation zone of the 3rd Division?
Ultimately they are the exact players that Cook wanted, so either he thought he could improve them through coaching or he just asked for the wrong players.
Either way the management team has to take as much responsibility for our current position as anyone else. |  |
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| So you’re saying it’s the players….. on 12:09 - Sep 11 with 648 views | pointofblue |
| So you’re saying it’s the players….. on 11:31 - Sep 11 by Bloots |
….that are the reason we’re in the relegation zone of the 3rd Division?
Ultimately they are the exact players that Cook wanted, so either he thought he could improve them through coaching or he just asked for the wrong players.
Either way the management team has to take as much responsibility for our current position as anyone else. |
It’s always the players fault - has been at least since Cook arrived. [Post edited 11 Sep 2021 12:09]
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