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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry 10:57 - Jan 30 with 2083 viewsKeno

on the anniversary of a very dark day that should never have happened and should never be allowed to be repeated
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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:11 - Jan 30 with 2028 viewsnoggin

And must never be allowed to happen again.

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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:13 - Jan 30 with 2018 viewsleitrimblue

One of the lowest points in modern British history. And there is no London in Derry
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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:18 - Jan 30 with 1995 viewsKeno

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:13 - Jan 30 by leitrimblue

One of the lowest points in modern British history. And there is no London in Derry


"And there is no London in Derry"

I am aware of that (ask my PA who is from the 'other side' and I wind up as often as I can by referring to Derry.

for the sake of trying not to 'upset' anyone I thought I should include it

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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:29 - Jan 30 with 1957 viewsleitrimblue

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:18 - Jan 30 by Keno

"And there is no London in Derry"

I am aware of that (ask my PA who is from the 'other side' and I wind up as often as I can by referring to Derry.

for the sake of trying not to 'upset' anyone I thought I should include it


Sorry Ken, know you are fully aware of it. But, feck um, it's called Derry (Doire). Its like trying to convince my Spanish in laws that they should refer to Benidorm as Beni as not to upset the tourists
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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:31 - Jan 30 with 1946 viewsKeno

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:29 - Jan 30 by leitrimblue

Sorry Ken, know you are fully aware of it. But, feck um, it's called Derry (Doire). Its like trying to convince my Spanish in laws that they should refer to Benidorm as Beni as not to upset the tourists


No need for sorry I will always call it Derry!!

I found the documentary on the Derry football team very moving and was trying to find the BBC Undertones documentary from a couple of years back.

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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:38 - Jan 30 with 1932 viewsbluejacko

How about your thoughts going to the Enniskillen and Warrenpoint victims along with other murders that the IRA terrorists have not been bought to justice for?
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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:38 - Jan 30 with 1913 viewsnoggin

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:38 - Jan 30 by bluejacko

How about your thoughts going to the Enniskillen and Warrenpoint victims along with other murders that the IRA terrorists have not been bought to justice for?


Well that didn't take lonng. FFS

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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:47 - Jan 30 with 1882 viewsWeWereZombies

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:38 - Jan 30 by bluejacko

How about your thoughts going to the Enniskillen and Warrenpoint victims along with other murders that the IRA terrorists have not been bought to justice for?


It is possible to feel for both the victims of Bloody Sunday and the victims of the Enniskillen bombing, y'know. Post a remembrance thread on the eighth of November and I will uptick that too.

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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:50 - Jan 30 with 1868 viewsleitrimblue

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:31 - Jan 30 by Keno

No need for sorry I will always call it Derry!!

I found the documentary on the Derry football team very moving and was trying to find the BBC Undertones documentary from a couple of years back.


That's a great documentary. I often work with this big group of prod civil engineers based in Derry and just this side of the border in Donegal. They are all related, brothers, uncles, brothers in law etc. There a very interesting but strange bunch. Quite proud of there protestant heritage, but in no way sectarian. They just smile at me when I call it Derry
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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:54 - Jan 30 with 1823 viewsleitrimblue

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:38 - Jan 30 by bluejacko

How about your thoughts going to the Enniskillen and Warrenpoint victims along with other murders that the IRA terrorists have not been bought to justice for?


Because they were also state sanctioned murders?
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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:55 - Jan 30 with 1820 viewsChurchman

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:47 - Jan 30 by WeWereZombies

It is possible to feel for both the victims of Bloody Sunday and the victims of the Enniskillen bombing, y'know. Post a remembrance thread on the eighth of November and I will uptick that too.


My thoughts go to all innocent victims of violence. The moment we forget is the moment we are doomed to repeat it, thinking not only of this but the Holocaust stuff discussed the other day.
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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 14:34 - Jan 30 with 1663 viewsfactual_blue

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:38 - Jan 30 by bluejacko

How about your thoughts going to the Enniskillen and Warrenpoint victims along with other murders that the IRA terrorists have not been bought to justice for?


How about your thoughts going to the millions of Irish men, women and children killed or starved during several hundred years of English interference/occupation?

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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 14:36 - Jan 30 with 1655 viewsnoggin

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 14:34 - Jan 30 by factual_blue

How about your thoughts going to the millions of Irish men, women and children killed or starved during several hundred years of English interference/occupation?


Balls

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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 14:37 - Jan 30 with 1640 viewsfactual_blue

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:47 - Jan 30 by WeWereZombies

It is possible to feel for both the victims of Bloody Sunday and the victims of the Enniskillen bombing, y'know. Post a remembrance thread on the eighth of November and I will uptick that too.


One could reasonably add the question 'which Bloody Sunday?'

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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 14:50 - Jan 30 with 1609 viewsTractorFrog

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 14:37 - Jan 30 by factual_blue

One could reasonably add the question 'which Bloody Sunday?'


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday
Quite a few to choose from.

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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 14:52 - Jan 30 with 1595 viewsfooters

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 14:50 - Jan 30 by TractorFrog

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday
Quite a few to choose from.


What a great song. It really encapsulates the frustration of a Sunday, doesn't it? You wake up in the morning, you've got to read all the Sunday papers, the kids are running round, you've got to mow the lawn, wash the car, and you think "Sunday, bloody Sunday!"

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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 14:58 - Jan 30 with 1581 viewsWeWereZombies

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 14:52 - Jan 30 by footers

What a great song. It really encapsulates the frustration of a Sunday, doesn't it? You wake up in the morning, you've got to read all the Sunday papers, the kids are running round, you've got to mow the lawn, wash the car, and you think "Sunday, bloody Sunday!"


There is more than one 'Stranger in a Strange Land' too:


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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 15:09 - Jan 30 with 1531 viewsfooters

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 14:58 - Jan 30 by WeWereZombies

There is more than one 'Stranger in a Strange Land' too:



On a similar theme, the band U2 tried to sue the culture-jamming pioneers Negativland for 'stealing' that name for an album (which record shops at the time were stocking with the other U2's records, which was the aim of the project, obviously), when of course U2 themselves named their group after the US spyplane.

What a world we live in. Hrmph.

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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 15:52 - Jan 30 with 1467 viewsElephantintheRoom

If you put your righteous indignation to music you too might do quite well

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Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 16:08 - Jan 30 with 1433 viewsbluelagos

Thoughts go to all the people of Derry / Londonderry on 11:54 - Jan 30 by leitrimblue

Because they were also state sanctioned murders?


This. The killings on Bloody Sunday were carried out by British soldiers, in uniform who then proceeded to lie about the circumstances and to falsely claim those killed were involved with the IRA.

For anyone British that may be a very uncomfortable truth, but that truth has been established, accepted and a serving PM even apologised for that.

Anyone seeking to post a "Yeah but..." type comment clearly hasn't grasped the enormity of what happened - namely that innocent Northern Irish catholic civilians were shot dead by British soldiers. It was and remains a dark day in our history and no "Yeah but..." will ever change that.

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