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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league 16:49 - Sep 15 with 2486 viewsIllinoisblue

In case you were wondering why an American pension fund would invest in a third tier football club.


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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 19:33 - Sep 15 with 2295 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Whats the average profit for bottom half teams?

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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 20:01 - Sep 15 with 2237 viewsIllinoisblue

100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 19:33 - Sep 15 by Marshalls_Mullet

Whats the average profit for bottom half teams?


More than L1 I’d guess!

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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 20:07 - Sep 15 with 2207 viewsHighgateBlue

100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 19:33 - Sep 15 by Marshalls_Mullet

Whats the average profit for bottom half teams?


Yes, I always think this when the Champ playoff game has variously been described as "worth" £20m, £40m, £60m, etc.

If the successful club then feels the need to increase its transfer and wage budgets by at least that amount, it's hardly a prize. There is very little attempt by many clubs to make their endeavours genuinely financially sustainable, and if I'm trying to be objective I do respect the attitude that Norwich have displayed. When they go up they spend a responsible amount, and generally are found wanting by all those daft clubs on steroids. Many of them will become a Portsmouth, a Bolton, a Derby, a Wigan, a Coventry. And yet the parade of narcissists will continue to want to buy clubs as a play thing.

If I were Gamechanger, I would be hoping to get Town to the Premier league, or the cusp thereof, and then to sell to some such narcissist for £100m or more. Where that will leave ITFC is anyone's guess, but at the moment I'm happy enough to enjoy the ride, albeit with this nagging long term concern at the back of my mind.
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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 20:08 - Sep 15 with 2194 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 20:01 - Sep 15 by Illinoisblue

More than L1 I’d guess!


Might not be for Forest this season?

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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 20:12 - Sep 15 with 2170 viewsFrimleyBlue

100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 20:07 - Sep 15 by HighgateBlue

Yes, I always think this when the Champ playoff game has variously been described as "worth" £20m, £40m, £60m, etc.

If the successful club then feels the need to increase its transfer and wage budgets by at least that amount, it's hardly a prize. There is very little attempt by many clubs to make their endeavours genuinely financially sustainable, and if I'm trying to be objective I do respect the attitude that Norwich have displayed. When they go up they spend a responsible amount, and generally are found wanting by all those daft clubs on steroids. Many of them will become a Portsmouth, a Bolton, a Derby, a Wigan, a Coventry. And yet the parade of narcissists will continue to want to buy clubs as a play thing.

If I were Gamechanger, I would be hoping to get Town to the Premier league, or the cusp thereof, and then to sell to some such narcissist for £100m or more. Where that will leave ITFC is anyone's guess, but at the moment I'm happy enough to enjoy the ride, albeit with this nagging long term concern at the back of my mind.


For me it'll go 2 ways. Sold to an Evans and we go backwards.

Or... the 3 lions find investors to match their personal ambitions and the pension pot becomes a share holder whilst we have various investors pumping large sums of cash in. Was it phoenix who had 10 owners?

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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 21:46 - Sep 15 with 1989 viewsArnieM

£100m for failure! Just about sums that lot up, doesn’t it.

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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 22:46 - Sep 15 with 1863 viewsSwansea_Blue

100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 19:33 - Sep 15 by Marshalls_Mullet

Whats the average profit for bottom half teams?


That’s the key thing. In their last full accounts Chelsea lost over £200m in one year. All PL clubs together lost over a billion. Silly wages wipe out the income.

I don’t know about Naarwich last year, but their previous season in the PL gave them a pre-tax profit of under £2m (but they lost £33m the season before getting there).
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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 22:54 - Sep 15 with 1823 viewsJ2BLUE

Who was wondering? We have known this all along.

Truly impaired.
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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 00:01 - Sep 16 with 1730 viewsXYZ

100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 22:46 - Sep 15 by Swansea_Blue

That’s the key thing. In their last full accounts Chelsea lost over £200m in one year. All PL clubs together lost over a billion. Silly wages wipe out the income.

I don’t know about Naarwich last year, but their previous season in the PL gave them a pre-tax profit of under £2m (but they lost £33m the season before getting there).
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The pension fund don't need to draw an income (dividends) from ITFC. They'll have a valuation model and if that's increasing at an acceptable rate then they're happy.
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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 02:25 - Sep 16 with 1652 viewsIllinoisblue

100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 22:54 - Sep 15 by J2BLUE

Who was wondering? We have known this all along.


Hark at Larry Literal here.

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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 08:49 - Sep 16 with 1311 viewsElephantintheRoom

I think you’ll find the pension fund are more into hard cash from gullible new owners brought in to a club with ‘added value’.

The premier league is unsustainable in its current form for makeweights - who inevitably teeter on the brink of insolvency in the Prem and when they drop back down.

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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 08:58 - Sep 16 with 1286 viewsdirtyboy

100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 20:07 - Sep 15 by HighgateBlue

Yes, I always think this when the Champ playoff game has variously been described as "worth" £20m, £40m, £60m, etc.

If the successful club then feels the need to increase its transfer and wage budgets by at least that amount, it's hardly a prize. There is very little attempt by many clubs to make their endeavours genuinely financially sustainable, and if I'm trying to be objective I do respect the attitude that Norwich have displayed. When they go up they spend a responsible amount, and generally are found wanting by all those daft clubs on steroids. Many of them will become a Portsmouth, a Bolton, a Derby, a Wigan, a Coventry. And yet the parade of narcissists will continue to want to buy clubs as a play thing.

If I were Gamechanger, I would be hoping to get Town to the Premier league, or the cusp thereof, and then to sell to some such narcissist for £100m or more. Where that will leave ITFC is anyone's guess, but at the moment I'm happy enough to enjoy the ride, albeit with this nagging long term concern at the back of my mind.


They don't necessarily have to sell, so that's worth considering.

What will happen is the value of the club will be substantially more, even flirting between Prem/Champ (if run properly) so as long as the balance sheet 'worth' of the club is more than what they've put in, then generally the investors will be okay with continued ownership. IMO.

Of course, you could be right and they'd look to sell, but long term, there's still value in football (believe it or not) especially with woman's football making strides.
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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 09:49 - Sep 16 with 1235 viewsCityBlue

...and as a result the average salary is just mind blowing. I think our top earner is probably just shy of 20k a week with most on about 9-11K.
In the EPL that is more like average about £45k.....

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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 13:03 - Sep 16 with 1070 viewsVic

100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 08:58 - Sep 16 by dirtyboy

They don't necessarily have to sell, so that's worth considering.

What will happen is the value of the club will be substantially more, even flirting between Prem/Champ (if run properly) so as long as the balance sheet 'worth' of the club is more than what they've put in, then generally the investors will be okay with continued ownership. IMO.

Of course, you could be right and they'd look to sell, but long term, there's still value in football (believe it or not) especially with woman's football making strides.


The value is going up not only because of the success of the team but also because of land acquisition, ground development, etc.

The vibes coming out about future development of the stadium (inc possibly the carpark in PR, etc) sound to me like someone is in this for the long haul and not a quick turn over for a buck or two.

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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 13:08 - Sep 16 with 1054 viewsElderGrizzly

100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 20:01 - Sep 15 by Illinoisblue

More than L1 I’d guess!


Sunderland lost £200m from their time being in the PL.

It's not always guaranteed to be a money spinner
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100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 06:07 - Sep 17 with 881 viewsTeHuia

100million pounds for finishing bottom of the premier league on 20:07 - Sep 15 by HighgateBlue

Yes, I always think this when the Champ playoff game has variously been described as "worth" £20m, £40m, £60m, etc.

If the successful club then feels the need to increase its transfer and wage budgets by at least that amount, it's hardly a prize. There is very little attempt by many clubs to make their endeavours genuinely financially sustainable, and if I'm trying to be objective I do respect the attitude that Norwich have displayed. When they go up they spend a responsible amount, and generally are found wanting by all those daft clubs on steroids. Many of them will become a Portsmouth, a Bolton, a Derby, a Wigan, a Coventry. And yet the parade of narcissists will continue to want to buy clubs as a play thing.

If I were Gamechanger, I would be hoping to get Town to the Premier league, or the cusp thereof, and then to sell to some such narcissist for £100m or more. Where that will leave ITFC is anyone's guess, but at the moment I'm happy enough to enjoy the ride, albeit with this nagging long term concern at the back of my mind.


The whole thought of Marcus Evans buying it back made me shudder.
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