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It's not Qatar 15:27 - Jan 26 with 1653 viewsDJR

The 2023 report from Human Rights Watch on the UK is very damning.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2023/country-chapters/united-kingdom#e81181

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It's not Qatar on 16:14 - Jan 26 with 1569 viewsbluelagos

Assuming we get a change of govt. in a couple of years, you wonder how quickly some of those laws can be repealed? Or whether Starmer and co. would opt for the "Not high priority" argument and leave them in place?

For a supposed libertarian, Johnson didn't half betray those beliefs in appointing Patel to Home Secretary and all the sh1t that followed.

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It's not Qatar on 16:19 - Jan 26 with 1546 viewsOldsmoker

It's not Qatar on 16:14 - Jan 26 by bluelagos

Assuming we get a change of govt. in a couple of years, you wonder how quickly some of those laws can be repealed? Or whether Starmer and co. would opt for the "Not high priority" argument and leave them in place?

For a supposed libertarian, Johnson didn't half betray those beliefs in appointing Patel to Home Secretary and all the sh1t that followed.


I dislike Braverman intensely but calling her a sh1t is a bit much.

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It's not Qatar on 16:27 - Jan 26 with 1533 viewsDJR

It's not Qatar on 16:14 - Jan 26 by bluelagos

Assuming we get a change of govt. in a couple of years, you wonder how quickly some of those laws can be repealed? Or whether Starmer and co. would opt for the "Not high priority" argument and leave them in place?

For a supposed libertarian, Johnson didn't half betray those beliefs in appointing Patel to Home Secretary and all the sh1t that followed.


With his legal background, I imagine Starmer's instincts will be to repeal them all, but on an issue like Rwanda, maybe he will be hamstrung by public opinion.

Johnson's only principles are furthering his career, freeloading and lining his pockets.
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It's not Qatar on 19:16 - Jan 26 with 1414 viewsSwansea_Blue

Pah! Just fear mongering. Nobody’s suggesting watering down human/workers rights. As an Independent Nation we’re free to set world-leading improved protections.


Arf! If anyone was stupid enough to believe that, they deserve all we get (unfortunately a lot of us don’t deserve it).

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It's not Qatar on 19:52 - Jan 26 with 1365 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

It's not Qatar on 16:14 - Jan 26 by bluelagos

Assuming we get a change of govt. in a couple of years, you wonder how quickly some of those laws can be repealed? Or whether Starmer and co. would opt for the "Not high priority" argument and leave them in place?

For a supposed libertarian, Johnson didn't half betray those beliefs in appointing Patel to Home Secretary and all the sh1t that followed.


Libertarianism is essentially survival of the fittest which would make her the sensible choice IMHO.
Starmer won't be rocking any boats.

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It's not Qatar on 20:35 - Jan 26 with 1317 viewsbluelagos

It's not Qatar on 19:52 - Jan 26 by BanksterDebtSlave

Libertarianism is essentially survival of the fittest which would make her the sensible choice IMHO.
Starmer won't be rocking any boats.


Not convinced at all by that. Clearly there are some laissez faire type libertarian economists who would argue the market should determine everything. I was very much referring to the role of the state (Libertarian or authoritarian) in terms of how people are treated.

Patel brought in law authoritarian laws that limit/reduce our rights. The economic rights and wrongs of free market dogmatists is a different debate altogether.

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It's not Qatar on 20:58 - Jan 26 with 1282 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

It's not Qatar on 20:35 - Jan 26 by bluelagos

Not convinced at all by that. Clearly there are some laissez faire type libertarian economists who would argue the market should determine everything. I was very much referring to the role of the state (Libertarian or authoritarian) in terms of how people are treated.

Patel brought in law authoritarian laws that limit/reduce our rights. The economic rights and wrongs of free market dogmatists is a different debate altogether.


I have always perceived Libertarianism as ruthless selfish individualism as opposed to a more communal/societal based Selfishness where looking after number one also benefits the collective. I would argue that Patel introduced laws that allow ruthless individualism to top trump the needs of the collective.

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It's not Qatar on 21:14 - Jan 26 with 1263 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

It's not Qatar on 16:19 - Jan 26 by Oldsmoker

I dislike Braverman intensely but calling her a sh1t is a bit much.


Oh, I don't know.

As sobriquets go it seems apposite.

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It's not Qatar on 04:05 - Jan 27 with 1128 viewsBlueBadger

It's not Qatar on 20:58 - Jan 26 by BanksterDebtSlave

I have always perceived Libertarianism as ruthless selfish individualism as opposed to a more communal/societal based Selfishness where looking after number one also benefits the collective. I would argue that Patel introduced laws that allow ruthless individualism to top trump the needs of the collective.


The average liberterian is steadfastly opposed to governmental interference in people's lives, as long as those people are well-off, white and preferably male heterosexuals.

I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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It's not Qatar on 08:21 - Jan 27 with 997 viewsDarth_Koont

Awful. But no shock as we've been sliding here for years.

And yet there's seemingly more concern and outcry over the Super League than the state of the UK and how it is failing tens of millions of men, women and children. All while being gaslit by the useless and self-serving politicians screwing us over.

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It's not Qatar on 10:34 - Jan 27 with 924 viewsSomethingBlue

And only a really, really tiny fraction of the public are anything approaching awake to any of this. Most won't even care until it's too late for them.

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It's not Qatar on 11:06 - Jan 27 with 881 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

It’s easy for them to get away with this stuff on the quiet.

When people can’t access basic healthcare due to waiting times and inability to get GP appointments, criminals operating brazenly due to lack of police, people aren’t interested in the bigger picture stuff.

Still seems highly undemocratic that there’s no mechanism to eject a zombie government. They have no mandate or support, and yet here we are…
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