| Ashton 11:47 - Aug 15 with 8612 views | Wickets |
I have seen some mild but none the less there has been some criticism of Mark , i think that's simply rather silly i'm more that happy with the job he has done while he has been at Town . Transfer dealings are always going to be difficult both in and out as its not a perfect science . We know he has been going all out and perhaps things have not quite gone to plan . I am of course still hopeful that he can get the one or two deals we want over the line in the next couple of weeks but if not better to wait until the next window then settle for lesser than what we really want . Well that's my take . |  | | |  |
| Ashton on 11:52 - Aug 15 with 5024 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
I've not seen any criticism of MA. Not on here anyway.
Except for the obvious trolls. |  |
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| Ashton on 11:56 - Aug 15 with 4984 views | itfcsuth |
It's ridiculous.
The man has been outstanding during his time here.
The squad built is fantastic, the infrastructure changes have been brilliant, the recruitment of KMc was a master stroke.
He's also bought in two long term targets of KMc this window.
We aren't going to win every deal we go in for anymore - we aren't that major player in a small pond anymore - we lost McNally to Stoke, Rak-Sakyi possibly to Leicester.
We are competing with big clubs now - you aren't going to get every deal over the line.
Does my nut in reading some of the nonsense on here sometimes (albeit from a very select few I must say). |  | | |
| Ashton on 11:56 - Aug 15 with 4979 views | DanTheMan |
| Ashton on 11:52 - Aug 15 by Cheltenham_Blue |
I've not seen any criticism of MA. Not on here anyway.
Except for the obvious trolls. |
There's been some very, very mild criticism about the lack of signings this year but it's not exactly unwarranted. I'm sure Ashton isn't happy with the situation either. |  |
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| Ashton on 11:59 - Aug 15 with 4922 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I think its fine to say this window hasn't quite gone as the club would have wanted, I think that's clear. Not to say its been a massive disaster by any means.
I'm sure Ashton and Mckenna have been frustrated by it. We mustn't get to a stage where anything said about the club that isn't effusive praise is deemed to be massively negative. |  |
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| Ashton on 12:01 - Aug 15 with 4897 views | ReusersTown |
Yeah, the majority of criticism I've seen has come from clean known scummer troll accounts generally, so nothing to really worry about. Not sure why they bother. |  | | |
| Ashton on 12:02 - Aug 15 with 4896 views | the_toff |
We really couldn't have asked for any more. He talks a good game but he's backed it up with tangible results. We've got a much better manager than we did when he joined, a better squad, higher league status, higher revenues, new pitch, improved links to the community, loads of love of PR and training ground, Sheeran links etc. The list goes on and on, he's delivered at just about every metric.
As someone said on here recently, if you get all your transfer targets you're probably not aiming high enough. I would rather aim for the moon and at least hit the stars. Previously we weren't even aiming for the stars and were hitting row E of the Cobbold. | | | |
| Ashton on 12:02 - Aug 15 with 4880 views | ITFCBlues |
| Ashton on 11:56 - Aug 15 by DanTheMan |
There's been some very, very mild criticism about the lack of signings this year but it's not exactly unwarranted. I'm sure Ashton isn't happy with the situation either. |
Quite! Don't think anyone has questioned how he's gone about things here and really turned this club around, especially off the field!
But this summer's transfer dealings have thus far not lived up to the billing of a club that wants to attack this league - there is of course a number of reasons for this i'd guess & not solely MA's fault - especially with far more money in the league this summer. He was clearly deflecting the attention for the lack of signings in that TownTV interview, which seems to have worked with a lot of people on here!
What we don't want is another situation like last summer where it gets to deadline day, we've not got the deals we wanted done & then panic and sign poor players - like Ahadme & Camara - this very nearly cost us last season. Thankfully we managed to resolve this in January.
Let's hope we can get these dealsover the line in the next couple of weeks! |  |
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| Ashton on 12:02 - Aug 15 with 4883 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Ashton on 11:56 - Aug 15 by DanTheMan |
There's been some very, very mild criticism about the lack of signings this year but it's not exactly unwarranted. I'm sure Ashton isn't happy with the situation either. |
Yeah, but that has generally been from posters that think arranging a transfer in real life is just like it is in FM23.
When the more sane posters start criticising Ashton then I'll take some notice. He was asked a question about where transfers are, as we all want to know, (regularly and repeatedly), and he gave an honest answer as to where we were at that point in time.
If the player then changes his mind....There isn't much MA can do about it. Now if he says, "we missed out on one", the same posters will be whining that we can't outbid every club in the division. [Post edited 15 Aug 2023 12:08]
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| Ashton on 12:04 - Aug 15 with 4859 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Ashton on 12:02 - Aug 15 by the_toff |
We really couldn't have asked for any more. He talks a good game but he's backed it up with tangible results. We've got a much better manager than we did when he joined, a better squad, higher league status, higher revenues, new pitch, improved links to the community, loads of love of PR and training ground, Sheeran links etc. The list goes on and on, he's delivered at just about every metric.
As someone said on here recently, if you get all your transfer targets you're probably not aiming high enough. I would rather aim for the moon and at least hit the stars. Previously we weren't even aiming for the stars and were hitting row E of the Cobbold. |
Row 'C'. But only after bouncing off the perimeter wall. [Post edited 15 Aug 2023 12:07]
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| Agreed on 12:06 - Aug 15 with 4829 views | Dyland |
| Ashton on 12:02 - Aug 15 by the_toff |
We really couldn't have asked for any more. He talks a good game but he's backed it up with tangible results. We've got a much better manager than we did when he joined, a better squad, higher league status, higher revenues, new pitch, improved links to the community, loads of love of PR and training ground, Sheeran links etc. The list goes on and on, he's delivered at just about every metric.
As someone said on here recently, if you get all your transfer targets you're probably not aiming high enough. I would rather aim for the moon and at least hit the stars. Previously we weren't even aiming for the stars and were hitting row E of the Cobbold. |
Though not sure he's really to thank for the Sheeran links... sure he's perfectly capable of nurturing that if it's to the benefit of the club. |  |
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| We didn't "panic" buy Ahadme and Camara for goodness sake on 12:09 - Aug 15 with 4719 views | Dyland |
| Ashton on 12:02 - Aug 15 by ITFCBlues |
Quite! Don't think anyone has questioned how he's gone about things here and really turned this club around, especially off the field!
But this summer's transfer dealings have thus far not lived up to the billing of a club that wants to attack this league - there is of course a number of reasons for this i'd guess & not solely MA's fault - especially with far more money in the league this summer. He was clearly deflecting the attention for the lack of signings in that TownTV interview, which seems to have worked with a lot of people on here!
What we don't want is another situation like last summer where it gets to deadline day, we've not got the deals we wanted done & then panic and sign poor players - like Ahadme & Camara - this very nearly cost us last season. Thankfully we managed to resolve this in January.
Let's hope we can get these dealsover the line in the next couple of weeks! |
We did miss out on our top targets though, but we got them in eventually. Plus, we did what we needed to do last season, so whatever innit :) | |
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| Ashton on 12:10 - Aug 15 with 4700 views | Pippin1970 |
| Ashton on 12:02 - Aug 15 by ITFCBlues |
Quite! Don't think anyone has questioned how he's gone about things here and really turned this club around, especially off the field!
But this summer's transfer dealings have thus far not lived up to the billing of a club that wants to attack this league - there is of course a number of reasons for this i'd guess & not solely MA's fault - especially with far more money in the league this summer. He was clearly deflecting the attention for the lack of signings in that TownTV interview, which seems to have worked with a lot of people on here!
What we don't want is another situation like last summer where it gets to deadline day, we've not got the deals we wanted done & then panic and sign poor players - like Ahadme & Camara - this very nearly cost us last season. Thankfully we managed to resolve this in January.
Let's hope we can get these dealsover the line in the next couple of weeks! |
We have won the first two games without lots of new faces. I'm more than happy to carry on if transfers don't come off till January. | | | |
| Ashton on 12:23 - Aug 15 with 4556 views | LankHenners |
The other end of the scale is that some seem to worship him like he's actually on the pitch scoring 30 goals a season.
He's a suit and he's doing the job a suit should be doing and should have been doing here for years if we had anyone in charge who had half a clue about running a football club. He's done a very good job of cracking on with things that need doing and is clearly well supported (in terms of finance and advice) by the ownership group.
Seems to be anything that isn't treating him as the messiah is viewed as blasphemy in some quarters.
The club would have wanted more players in by now and will be frustrated to have missed out on targets. That is true as true can be and I don't know why people seem to be so invested in disputing that.
People can have opinions on it but I don't think it was very sensible to say we were close to getting '2 or 3' signings in and now be here almost 3 weeks later with no additions since that was uttered.
Essentially, he's done a good job but it's a bit strange to act like everything's been perfect and he's free from the mildest of criticism, and it's arguable that it counts as 'criticism' to be honest. |  |
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| Ashton on 12:26 - Aug 15 with 4542 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
It’s easy to be disappointed with this window after a monumental one in January, but let’s not forget those players were signed with the Championship in mind, therefore we’ve not needed too many bodies in.
I’d rather we ended this window by not getting our targeted players than bringing in signings for the sake of it. It would be far more damaging to sign expensive flops, or players with disruptive personalities. | | | |
| Ashton on 12:26 - Aug 15 with 4525 views | pointofblue |
| Ashton on 12:02 - Aug 15 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Yeah, but that has generally been from posters that think arranging a transfer in real life is just like it is in FM23.
When the more sane posters start criticising Ashton then I'll take some notice. He was asked a question about where transfers are, as we all want to know, (regularly and repeatedly), and he gave an honest answer as to where we were at that point in time.
If the player then changes his mind....There isn't much MA can do about it. Now if he says, "we missed out on one", the same posters will be whining that we can't outbid every club in the division. [Post edited 15 Aug 2023 12:08]
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To be honest, it's using the fans as a potential reason for transfers falling through which bug me more than anything. Stoke, for example, will not make a late move for a player because 1loveITFC posts something on social media. They'll be aware of progress via the player's agent. If we can't outbid a side, or offer better terms, then ok. But saying the fans speculating is causing issues getting players in? I can't see that really being the case. | |
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| Ashton on 12:27 - Aug 15 with 4520 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
The only thing I was iffy with was the lad we mucked about from Pompey at the last minute, that wasn't a good look.
In terms of business, we signed Walton and Morsy a touch too late into that season, but some of that was Cooks doing, say what you want about Chambers and Skuse, Cook came in and wiped out the on field leadership, and in those early games we were crying out for it in 21/22. Thankfully both Walton and Morsy came in and steadied the ship, but what a disaster.
I will say however, and I feel mean saying it, but Rakeem Harper is probably my worse ever Town player. That game against Colchester last season makes even Fish's sole game look fantastic, he was absolutely woeful. To think he's played in the Premier League amazes me! |  | | |
| Ashton on 12:31 - Aug 15 with 4447 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Ashton on 12:26 - Aug 15 by pointofblue |
To be honest, it's using the fans as a potential reason for transfers falling through which bug me more than anything. Stoke, for example, will not make a late move for a player because 1loveITFC posts something on social media. They'll be aware of progress via the player's agent. If we can't outbid a side, or offer better terms, then ok. But saying the fans speculating is causing issues getting players in? I can't see that really being the case. |
I have wondered previously what is meant by, "it hurts us".
How, in what context does it hurt us? I think he'd find 1loveITFC et al would be far more amenable to keeping quiet if he backed it up with examples.
I'm about as 'in the know' as my nan, and she died before I was born, but rumour is all that keeps football fans happy at times. | |
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| Ashton on 12:34 - Aug 15 with 4416 views | NthQldITFC |
| Ashton on 11:56 - Aug 15 by itfcsuth |
It's ridiculous.
The man has been outstanding during his time here.
The squad built is fantastic, the infrastructure changes have been brilliant, the recruitment of KMc was a master stroke.
He's also bought in two long term targets of KMc this window.
We aren't going to win every deal we go in for anymore - we aren't that major player in a small pond anymore - we lost McNally to Stoke, Rak-Sakyi possibly to Leicester.
We are competing with big clubs now - you aren't going to get every deal over the line.
Does my nut in reading some of the nonsense on here sometimes (albeit from a very select few I must say). |
That there's even a thread on this does my nut in.
The man's overseen the most magnificent transformation of our football club, and continues to do so.
Some people seem to think that if you don't get every transfer target you're after, immediately and for a bargain basement price, you've failed somehow. That's akin to a solipsist's view of the world where none of the other apparent equivalent entities are real but figments of your imagination, and therefore you can just decide that you get everything you want and they have no power to achieve anything at your expense. |  |
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| Agreed on 12:37 - Aug 15 with 4339 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Agreed on 12:06 - Aug 15 by Dyland |
Though not sure he's really to thank for the Sheeran links... sure he's perfectly capable of nurturing that if it's to the benefit of the club. |
Agreed, the Sheeran PR fell in his lap. |  |
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| Ashton on 12:38 - Aug 15 with 4325 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Ashton on 12:23 - Aug 15 by LankHenners |
The other end of the scale is that some seem to worship him like he's actually on the pitch scoring 30 goals a season.
He's a suit and he's doing the job a suit should be doing and should have been doing here for years if we had anyone in charge who had half a clue about running a football club. He's done a very good job of cracking on with things that need doing and is clearly well supported (in terms of finance and advice) by the ownership group.
Seems to be anything that isn't treating him as the messiah is viewed as blasphemy in some quarters.
The club would have wanted more players in by now and will be frustrated to have missed out on targets. That is true as true can be and I don't know why people seem to be so invested in disputing that.
People can have opinions on it but I don't think it was very sensible to say we were close to getting '2 or 3' signings in and now be here almost 3 weeks later with no additions since that was uttered.
Essentially, he's done a good job but it's a bit strange to act like everything's been perfect and he's free from the mildest of criticism, and it's arguable that it counts as 'criticism' to be honest. |
Absolutely this, well said. |  |
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| Ashton on 12:39 - Aug 15 with 4309 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Ashton on 12:23 - Aug 15 by LankHenners |
The other end of the scale is that some seem to worship him like he's actually on the pitch scoring 30 goals a season.
He's a suit and he's doing the job a suit should be doing and should have been doing here for years if we had anyone in charge who had half a clue about running a football club. He's done a very good job of cracking on with things that need doing and is clearly well supported (in terms of finance and advice) by the ownership group.
Seems to be anything that isn't treating him as the messiah is viewed as blasphemy in some quarters.
The club would have wanted more players in by now and will be frustrated to have missed out on targets. That is true as true can be and I don't know why people seem to be so invested in disputing that.
People can have opinions on it but I don't think it was very sensible to say we were close to getting '2 or 3' signings in and now be here almost 3 weeks later with no additions since that was uttered.
Essentially, he's done a good job but it's a bit strange to act like everything's been perfect and he's free from the mildest of criticism, and it's arguable that it counts as 'criticism' to be honest. |
Agreed. The money invested in L1 is the biggest influence since the ME days. | |
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| Ashton on 12:41 - Aug 15 with 4282 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| Ashton on 12:34 - Aug 15 by NthQldITFC |
That there's even a thread on this does my nut in.
The man's overseen the most magnificent transformation of our football club, and continues to do so.
Some people seem to think that if you don't get every transfer target you're after, immediately and for a bargain basement price, you've failed somehow. That's akin to a solipsist's view of the world where none of the other apparent equivalent entities are real but figments of your imagination, and therefore you can just decide that you get everything you want and they have no power to achieve anything at your expense. |
Under Evans we were so used to being lied to and bsed that we almost came to expect it with Ashton.
We were told about 5 year plans, which appeared to be nothing more than cuts, we were told that the squad and funding was "competitive" which it wasn't, we had Lee O'Neil claim the reasons we had so many injuries was that "the human body wasn't designed to play football" ......... and when we were promised money would be invested we ended up with Leon Best and Colin fkn Quaner.
Fantastic.
Last season we needed some help over the finish line and brought in Clarke, Broadhead, Mass and Hirst, all of which had recently played in the league above. The difference between the Evans world and the Ashton world is actually light years. | | | |
| Ashton on 12:43 - Aug 15 with 4237 views | Illinoisblue |
| Ashton on 12:26 - Aug 15 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
It’s easy to be disappointed with this window after a monumental one in January, but let’s not forget those players were signed with the Championship in mind, therefore we’ve not needed too many bodies in.
I’d rather we ended this window by not getting our targeted players than bringing in signings for the sake of it. It would be far more damaging to sign expensive flops, or players with disruptive personalities. |
That’s a good point re the January window. Compared to say, Sheff Weds, who have brought in 9 or 10 players this summer. (Partly to boost their aging squad and obviously partly due to new manager bringing in his own players). They could be fighting relegation before they all start to gel. |  |
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