| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 00:20 - Dec 20 with 3450 views | Ryorry |
Great, but Gav's not gonna be happy with you stretching his beautiful page ... |  |
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 01:52 - Dec 20 with 3371 views | WicklowBlue |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 00:20 - Dec 20 by Ryorry |
Great, but Gav's not gonna be happy with you stretching his beautiful page ... |
Indeed, Badger you just broke the Stylesheet and CSS!!!!!
However I agree, but still lots to play for Trumpland wise. This decision is no doubt headed to the Supreme Court.
Its too early to celebrate. |  | | |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 01:55 - Dec 20 with 3369 views | Illinoisblue |
Never let a grifting opportunity go to waste:
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 07:14 - Dec 20 with 3150 views | GlasgowBlue |
Surely the problem here is that Trump is yet to be convicted of insurgency and the US Supreme Court, which Trump overloaded with his own people, will simply overturn this ruling? |  |
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 07:31 - Dec 20 with 3092 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
A few million Trump votes solidify! |  |
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 07:32 - Dec 20 with 3088 views | ElderGrizzly |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 07:14 - Dec 20 by GlasgowBlue |
Surely the problem here is that Trump is yet to be convicted of insurgency and the US Supreme Court, which Trump overloaded with his own people, will simply overturn this ruling? |
Sadly that is exactly right.
Trump’s crack legal team have already said they are appealing to the Supreme Court and have asked for a stay on the Colorado ruling.
In theory it needs to be resolved by 5th Jan for him to be on the Colorado primary ballot.
Another 13 states have also said they are likely to bar him too, so this was a test case in that regard |  | | |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 07:38 - Dec 20 with 3044 views | Buhrer |
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 07:39 - Dec 20 with 3038 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 01:55 - Dec 20 by Illinoisblue |
Never let a grifting opportunity go to waste:
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I’m sure his pal Vladolf will be contributing… |  | | |
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 07:54 - Dec 20 with 3013 views | DJR |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 07:14 - Dec 20 by GlasgowBlue |
Surely the problem here is that Trump is yet to be convicted of insurgency and the US Supreme Court, which Trump overloaded with his own people, will simply overturn this ruling? |
Not just convicted but even charged.
I always thought his (political) impeachment for insurrection was on fairly thin grounds, even though he sailed close to the wind, and it is significant that none of the subsequent (legal) charges against him involved insurrection.
Given this, and the fact that other State courts have not jumped the same way as the court in Colorado when asked to do the same, I would have thought that it is almost certain that the US Supreme Court will overrule the finding.
But Trump will milk it for all it is worth, and I really think that things like this merely play into his hands. |  | | |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 08:03 - Dec 20 with 2969 views | santiagosentme |
Trump 2024. |  | | |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 08:12 - Dec 20 with 2935 views | Herbivore |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 08:03 - Dec 20 by santiagosentme |
Trump 2024. |
Wow, you must really hate America if you want them to have a president as fundamentally dishonest, corrupt, self-serving, and incompetent as Trump. |  |
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 08:21 - Dec 20 with 2895 views | Zapers |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 01:52 - Dec 20 by WicklowBlue |
Indeed, Badger you just broke the Stylesheet and CSS!!!!!
However I agree, but still lots to play for Trumpland wise. This decision is no doubt headed to the Supreme Court.
Its too early to celebrate. |
I agree, way too early, only a fool would write Trump off at this stage.
Underestimate him at you peril, he's unfortunately very powerful.
'He who laughs last, laughs loudest. | | | |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 08:46 - Dec 20 with 2826 views | Zapers |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 08:03 - Dec 20 by santiagosentme |
Trump 2024. |
I'm not sure about Trump, but for sure pretty much anyone is better than 'sleepy Joe Biden. | | | |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 08:59 - Dec 20 with 2776 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 08:12 - Dec 20 by Herbivore |
Wow, you must really hate America if you want them to have a president as fundamentally dishonest, corrupt, self-serving, and incompetent as Trump. |
Not even just America - his foreign policy will be a disaster to the wider world - he could potentially sell Ukraine down the river by cutting off funding. And given his past actions regarding Israel will likely add fuel to the fire in the Middle East. | | | |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 09:04 - Dec 20 with 2761 views | Guthrum |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 08:59 - Dec 20 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Not even just America - his foreign policy will be a disaster to the wider world - he could potentially sell Ukraine down the river by cutting off funding. And given his past actions regarding Israel will likely add fuel to the fire in the Middle East. |
Pretty much give anything to anybody prepared to flatter and stoke his ego. |  |
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 10:01 - Dec 20 with 2625 views | BlueBadger |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 08:46 - Dec 20 by Zapers |
I'm not sure about Trump, but for sure pretty much anyone is better than 'sleepy Joe Biden. |
I'm not entirely sure that, as TWTD's anti-bullying lead you should be using derogatory terms. [Post edited 20 Dec 2023 10:02]
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 10:06 - Dec 20 with 2596 views | StokieBlue |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 08:46 - Dec 20 by Zapers |
I'm not sure about Trump, but for sure pretty much anyone is better than 'sleepy Joe Biden. |
You were made to look silly last time you used that phrase but then I don't expect you to learn and evolve.
Much like pickles and the pickling process I guess which which hasn't evolved much in about 5000 years.
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 10:06 - Dec 20 with 2578 views | BlueBadger |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 10:06 - Dec 20 by StokieBlue |
You were made to look silly last time you used that phrase but then I don't expect you to learn and evolve.
Much like pickles and the pickling process I guess which which hasn't evolved much in about 5000 years.
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No idea what Pazesses them to keep doing th us sort of thing, | |
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 10:19 - Dec 20 with 2526 views | BlueBadger |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 08:21 - Dec 20 by Zapers |
I agree, way too early, only a fool would write Trump off at this stage.
Underestimate him at you peril, he's unfortunately very powerful.
'He who laughs last, laughs loudest. |
I will take any and all opportunities to laugh at the misfortunes of bigoted and corrupt criminal Donald Trump.
Surprised as TWTD's anti-bullying lead you don't, either. | |
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 10:58 - Dec 20 with 2436 views | Zapers |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 10:06 - Dec 20 by StokieBlue |
You were made to look silly last time you used that phrase but then I don't expect you to learn and evolve.
Much like pickles and the pickling process I guess which which hasn't evolved much in about 5000 years.
SB |
I think that's in your head Stokie, I didn't coin the phrase 'sleepy Joe'
Many find it appropriate, sorry it hurts your sensitive soul  | | | |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 11:33 - Dec 20 with 2354 views | StokieBlue |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 10:58 - Dec 20 by Zapers |
I think that's in your head Stokie, I didn't coin the phrase 'sleepy Joe'
Many find it appropriate, sorry it hurts your sensitive soul |
You seem to have replied to a post you've made up in your head rather than the one that I actually posted.
Guess that leaves us in a bit of a pickle on how to progress.
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 11:56 - Dec 20 with 2290 views | BlueBadger |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 11:33 - Dec 20 by StokieBlue |
You seem to have replied to a post you've made up in your head rather than the one that I actually posted.
Guess that leaves us in a bit of a pickle on how to progress.
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It's an extremely testing issue. | |
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 11:58 - Dec 20 with 2247 views | ElderGrizzly |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 07:54 - Dec 20 by DJR |
Not just convicted but even charged.
I always thought his (political) impeachment for insurrection was on fairly thin grounds, even though he sailed close to the wind, and it is significant that none of the subsequent (legal) charges against him involved insurrection.
Given this, and the fact that other State courts have not jumped the same way as the court in Colorado when asked to do the same, I would have thought that it is almost certain that the US Supreme Court will overrule the finding.
But Trump will milk it for all it is worth, and I really think that things like this merely play into his hands. |
A lawyer explains it well here
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| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 13:04 - Dec 20 with 2190 views | Zapers |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 11:56 - Dec 20 by BlueBadger |
It's an extremely testing issue. |
For you, yes i agree.
Maybe take a rest and enjoy your Xmas | | | |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 15:25 - Dec 20 with 2083 views | DJR |
| LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO on 11:58 - Dec 20 by ElderGrizzly |
A lawyer explains it well here
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Speaking as a lawyer myself, it is interesting to note that the provision doesn't actually say "give aid or comfort to those engaged in insurrection or rebellion". Instead it says "give aid or comfort to the enemies thereof", the word "thereof" appearing to refer to the Constitution of the United States or perhaps the United States itself. The question would then appear to turn on whether the rioters were such enemies, and also whether Trump had "given aid and comfort to" them, which may have a more restricted meaning than one might think at face value.
As an aside, it is interesting to note that none of the 6 January rioters was actually charged with insurrection, presumably because from what I have read insurrection charges are considered difficult to prove. This itself perhaps makes it difficult to prove that such people were "enemies thereof" however reprehensible their actions, as well as making it difficult to regard Trump himself as engaged in insurrection or rebellion for the purposes of the provision in question.
Having read the provision, I can also see the argument (which I think I read has been advanced) that the provision does not apply to the office of President itself because it does not refer to that office as such whilst it does refer to Senator, Representative and an elector of President. Perhaps it was just not thought necessary.
All in all, there seems plenty of wriggle-room for the US Supreme Court to throw out the case.
EDIT: I would just add that I haven't read the Colorado court judgment, so these are only my initial observations. [Post edited 8 Feb 2024 21:38]
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