| Privatisation gone mad! 19:10 - Sep 22 with 2968 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/sep/22/councils-in-england-to-get-revis
'A private litter warden gave Isabelle Pepin a £500 fixed penalty notice (FPN) for fly-tipping this week after she left an Ikea cabinet outside her home for people to take. In another case, a carpet fitter from Bournemouth was also given a £500 FPN for leaving an off-cut outside his home for someone to take.'
'Julie, also from Bournemouth, is fighting a £500 FPN she is unable to afford to pay – and which will increase to £1,000 in two weeks’ time – for leaving six planks of wood stacked outside her garden gate for people to collect.
“The private litter warden had me in tears,” she said. “I told him I didn’t realise I was doing anything wrong and offered to take the wood back into my garden immediately. But he said he was being lenient and what I’d done was so bad that he should actually be taking me to court to get a £50,000 fine.”
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:29 - Sep 22 with 2483 views | NthQldITFC |
I absolutely fkn despise the privatised, anti-social, anti-environmental, money-focussed cesspit of 'individual first' self interest that is Western capitalist 'society'. It's stupid and self defeating. |  |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:31 - Sep 22 with 2468 views | Pendejo |
Fly tipping is a huge problem on some of the roads where I live, so if I heard that people were being fined I'd be very happy.
There are ways of getting rid of useful excess goods; Gumtree, Freecycle etc. |  |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:34 - Sep 22 with 2435 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:29 - Sep 22 by NthQldITFC |
I absolutely fkn despise the privatised, anti-social, anti-environmental, money-focussed cesspit of 'individual first' self interest that is Western capitalist 'society'. It's stupid and self defeating. |
To be fair Isabelle Peppin sounds like one of those woke just stop oil types so probably had it coming. | |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:35 - Sep 22 with 2438 views | factual_blue |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:29 - Sep 22 by NthQldITFC |
I absolutely fkn despise the privatised, anti-social, anti-environmental, money-focussed cesspit of 'individual first' self interest that is Western capitalist 'society'. It's stupid and self defeating. |
I'll put you down as a 'don't know' then? |  |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:36 - Sep 22 with 2422 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:31 - Sep 22 by Pendejo |
Fly tipping is a huge problem on some of the roads where I live, so if I heard that people were being fined I'd be very happy.
There are ways of getting rid of useful excess goods; Gumtree, Freecycle etc. |
There's fly tipping and then there's giving stuff away though surely. | |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:36 - Sep 22 with 2422 views | NthQldITFC |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:31 - Sep 22 by Pendejo |
Fly tipping is a huge problem on some of the roads where I live, so if I heard that people were being fined I'd be very happy.
There are ways of getting rid of useful excess goods; Gumtree, Freecycle etc. |
There's a world of difference between fly tipping and this though. I'm with you, I'd string up fly tippers, but someone leaving useful timber on their own boundary line with a 'Free, help yourself' sign is a sensible, positive action.
The fact that profit-driven wanchors are trying to hand out £500 fines for that makes me sick.
I hear what you're saying about Freecycle, Gumtree etc., but plenty of old dudes won't be able to handle that. We have to put common sense above worshipping money and greed. | |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:38 - Sep 22 with 2411 views | NthQldITFC |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:34 - Sep 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
To be fair Isabelle Peppin sounds like one of those woke just stop oil types so probably had it coming. |
Isabelle Ringin - or have I just smashed my head against the wall in frustration? | |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:39 - Sep 22 with 2407 views | bsw72 |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:31 - Sep 22 by Pendejo |
Fly tipping is a huge problem on some of the roads where I live, so if I heard that people were being fined I'd be very happy.
There are ways of getting rid of useful excess goods; Gumtree, Freecycle etc. |
Too many people dump stuff on the pavement and think by scribbling “free” on a bit of paper they can just leave it and absolve themselves of responsibility for it. No issue if it is left in their front garden but not on the pavement. My wife has to use a mobility scooter on bad health days and pavements are already a nightmare. |  | | |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:39 - Sep 22 with 2408 views | bournemouthblue |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:31 - Sep 22 by Pendejo |
Fly tipping is a huge problem on some of the roads where I live, so if I heard that people were being fined I'd be very happy.
There are ways of getting rid of useful excess goods; Gumtree, Freecycle etc. |
Leaving it on public land and then admitting to it is her mistake |  |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 20:26 - Sep 22 with 2248 views | Pendejo |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:36 - Sep 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
There's fly tipping and then there's giving stuff away though surely. |
Unless you physically handing it to someone simply leaving "stuff" however useful is fly tipping.
How long does it have to be there before you would consider it dumped?
Fly tipping is also a magnet for others to tip their junk, so the useful could be obscured or tainted by the junk. | |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 20:39 - Sep 22 with 2209 views | Leaky |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 19:36 - Sep 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
There's fly tipping and then there's giving stuff away though surely. |
Where I live common for people to leave stuff out for some one to collect . However they always leave it within there boundary & usually put something on our local face book page |  | | |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 20:40 - Sep 22 with 2206 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 20:26 - Sep 22 by Pendejo |
Unless you physically handing it to someone simply leaving "stuff" however useful is fly tipping.
How long does it have to be there before you would consider it dumped?
Fly tipping is also a magnet for others to tip their junk, so the useful could be obscured or tainted by the junk. |
Personally I'd give it 3 days but it generally goes before that.
BTW....we picked up a 4m length of iroko kitchen worktop for nothing today...blooming luvverly. | |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 20:44 - Sep 22 with 2168 views | Leaky |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 20:40 - Sep 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Personally I'd give it 3 days but it generally goes before that.
BTW....we picked up a 4m length of iroko kitchen worktop for nothing today...blooming luvverly. |
Hope 4m worktop wasn't left on a 3m garden £500.00 fine | | | |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 20:48 - Sep 22 with 2139 views | BloomBlue |
If she has the details of the person/people who were collecting it then I'm sure they will let her off.
Something similar happened in my area recently, bid left a small fridge on the pavement 'for someone to collect'. Turns out they hadn't organised an actual collection, but was hopeful the 'scrap metal' bods who occasional drive round would take it away for them. Hence fly tipping, they recieved a £300 fine. Not enough in my mind, should be £3000.
I hate scum like that who don't have any respect for wheelchair bound people who had to go into the road to get round it.
Obviously said individual said they couldn't afford to pay the fine, tough pay it, just don't leave items on pavements |  | | |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 20:50 - Sep 22 with 2119 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 20:44 - Sep 22 by Leaky |
Hope 4m worktop wasn't left on a 3m garden £500.00 fine |
Nope that was some market place thing that Miss Slave is all over...and nearer £800 and very useful too. We are using it not selling it BTW. | |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 21:00 - Sep 22 with 2075 views | NthQldITFC |
Some fair points about in the garden vs on the pavement for mobility scooter etc. blocking, and I suppose people putting out things that are useless and labelling 'free'.
I'll wind my neck in!
Perhaps if we had tax funded local wardens doing a decent job for a decent wage and the good of society things would work, but that seems to be beyond our capabilities now. Progress, eh! | |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 21:15 - Sep 22 with 2022 views | Leaky |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 21:00 - Sep 22 by NthQldITFC |
Some fair points about in the garden vs on the pavement for mobility scooter etc. blocking, and I suppose people putting out things that are useless and labelling 'free'.
I'll wind my neck in!
Perhaps if we had tax funded local wardens doing a decent job for a decent wage and the good of society things would work, but that seems to be beyond our capabilities now. Progress, eh! |
So if I understand you correctly you basically want nationalise it. Would that make any difference, as the fines would presumably be the same | | | |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 21:30 - Sep 22 with 1956 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 21:15 - Sep 22 by Leaky |
So if I understand you correctly you basically want nationalise it. Would that make any difference, as the fines would presumably be the same |
Are we not talking about a public body outsourcing .
doesn't Starmer want to increase outsourcing, not reduce it |  |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 21:46 - Sep 22 with 1923 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 21:30 - Sep 22 by Pinewoodblue |
Are we not talking about a public body outsourcing .
doesn't Starmer want to increase outsourcing, not reduce it |
Well yes but he's a Tory so many on here should love it. | |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 22:16 - Sep 22 with 1851 views | NthQldITFC |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 21:15 - Sep 22 by Leaky |
So if I understand you correctly you basically want nationalise it. Would that make any difference, as the fines would presumably be the same |
No, they wouldn't be the same, and they'd end up funding local projects. | |
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 22:18 - Sep 22 with 1848 views | TractorWood |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 20:48 - Sep 22 by BloomBlue |
If she has the details of the person/people who were collecting it then I'm sure they will let her off.
Something similar happened in my area recently, bid left a small fridge on the pavement 'for someone to collect'. Turns out they hadn't organised an actual collection, but was hopeful the 'scrap metal' bods who occasional drive round would take it away for them. Hence fly tipping, they recieved a £300 fine. Not enough in my mind, should be £3000.
I hate scum like that who don't have any respect for wheelchair bound people who had to go into the road to get round it.
Obviously said individual said they couldn't afford to pay the fine, tough pay it, just don't leave items on pavements |
I don't think people leaving unwanted trash outside is actually particularly charitable. It's an eye sore, can block pavements and entice other dumping.
I think people should just take responsibility and take it to the tip, eBay it etc.
As for these ridiculous fines, they are obviously unlawful. They just need challenging and this privatised fine market will crumble. [Post edited 22 Sep 2024 22:19]
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 00:22 - Sep 23 with 1716 views | BlueForYou |
I take all my stuff to the excellent recycle centre at Bury St Edmunds & sort it out there. Anything useful goes in the shed for resale, the rest in the appropriate skip. Aided by very helpful staff. Not everyone has a good recycle centre local to them though. The one in Bournemouth where I lived for a couple of years was terrible, they were like the gestapo & would ask you to get out of your vehicle while they fully inspected it before going in. If there was something they didn’t like, maybe they didn’t like the t shirt you were wearing, then you weren’t allowed in. A very immature game would develop! No wonder some people fly tip! |  | | |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 08:00 - Sep 23 with 1565 views | Leaky |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 22:18 - Sep 22 by TractorWood |
I don't think people leaving unwanted trash outside is actually particularly charitable. It's an eye sore, can block pavements and entice other dumping.
I think people should just take responsibility and take it to the tip, eBay it etc.
As for these ridiculous fines, they are obviously unlawful. They just need challenging and this privatised fine market will crumble. [Post edited 22 Sep 2024 22:19]
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Huntingdon DC will pick up three large items for £25.00 so no excuse for fly tipping | | | |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 08:26 - Sep 23 with 1482 views | giant_stow |
A much bigger issue than this is people who live above shops getting harassed over their rubbish by council litter spies. We lived over a commercial premises for 10 years and had many run-ins with them - when you no bins outside, it can get pretty stressy. If someone decides to add to your carefully timed bag outside, or a fox rips the bag open, you find yourself in the hook. [Post edited 23 Sep 2024 8:28]
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| Privatisation gone mad! on 08:35 - Sep 23 with 1441 views | Pippin1970 |
| Privatisation gone mad! on 20:39 - Sep 22 by Leaky |
Where I live common for people to leave stuff out for some one to collect . However they always leave it within there boundary & usually put something on our local face book page |
Exactly right. I've left washing machines etc for scrap metal men at front. Kids bikes too when they grown uo or even paving slabs. Redistribution or help others out. |  | | |
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