What was the plan tonight 23:05 - Jan 16 with 1836 views | kizaitfc | Tonight was the first game I literally stood there and thought what is the game plan here. Dropping Morsy I assume for some sort of tactical reason. Walton is not capable of playing out from the back and when he does it looks very awkward. Phillips and Cajuste seemed disinterested when we had the ball seemed happy for us to lump it long down the wings or to Delap. This was a winnable game but for some reason we seemed to experiment on a different system which was unnecessary. |  |
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What was the plan tonight on 23:07 - Jan 16 with 1796 views | pointofblue | I thought up to the goal it was working well. We kept them in non-threatening areas, and created chances, particularly in the first half, albeit from long range. Second half took the same approach as the first, we were working out way back into it and then the sucker punch. The worst thing was our reaction - or lack of it. It's as though we gave up at 1-0. |  |
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What was the plan tonight on 23:22 - Jan 16 with 1706 views | bsw72 |
What was the plan tonight on 23:07 - Jan 16 by pointofblue | I thought up to the goal it was working well. We kept them in non-threatening areas, and created chances, particularly in the first half, albeit from long range. Second half took the same approach as the first, we were working out way back into it and then the sucker punch. The worst thing was our reaction - or lack of it. It's as though we gave up at 1-0. |
Agreed. We went out to let Brighton have the ball up to the last 30 yards and then make ourselves hard to breakdown, with the hope of scoring on the break. First half I thought we had done really well, and could easily have gone in 2-0 up. The moment we went 1-0 down, Brighton closed down the game and never allowed the space for our game plan to work. We lacked the attacking options on the bench that Chaplin, Szmodic and going forward Philogene should give us. |  | |  |
What was the plan tonight on 23:24 - Jan 16 with 1678 views | FrimleyBlue | Interesting stat for me is we only found delap with 10 passes the whole game Considering the requirement we have of our forward holding the ball up and bringing others into play. 10 passes seems incredibly low. |  |
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What was the plan tonight on 23:27 - Jan 16 with 1649 views | kizaitfc |
What was the plan tonight on 23:24 - Jan 16 by FrimleyBlue | Interesting stat for me is we only found delap with 10 passes the whole game Considering the requirement we have of our forward holding the ball up and bringing others into play. 10 passes seems incredibly low. |
Think the key reason for that was we skipped the midfield on too many occasions. Not sure if that was due to Walton with his poor distribution or the midfield being bypassed. Probably a bit of both but either way I think that is our current weakness |  |
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What was the plan tonight on 23:28 - Jan 16 with 1651 views | bournemouthblue | Whatever it was, it probably involved Hutch passing to blue shirts occasionally If we are going to play this way, it really depends on Hutch and Delap having a good game Sadly this was more Arsenal than Chelsea, I thought Hutch had a shocker really and Delap whilst he had one or two moments, generally faded out of the game as well |  |
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What was the plan tonight on 23:30 - Jan 16 with 1593 views | FrimleyBlue |
What was the plan tonight on 23:28 - Jan 16 by bournemouthblue | Whatever it was, it probably involved Hutch passing to blue shirts occasionally If we are going to play this way, it really depends on Hutch and Delap having a good game Sadly this was more Arsenal than Chelsea, I thought Hutch had a shocker really and Delap whilst he had one or two moments, generally faded out of the game as well |
Can someone tell me as you miss certain runs on the Tele. Does delap try any of the hirst type bent runs into the channels for greaves to float one through to.. I think there was one very late on which the defender got his head too.. but I wondered if delap makes that run often or if he is indeed pretty central and sticks to position. |  |
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What was the plan tonight on 23:38 - Jan 16 with 1532 views | Garv | When Morsy's in there he demands the ball and will happily take it and hold onto it in tight spaces. I don't think Phillips can do that or particularly wants to do that. Not sure that experiment worked, but the end result may well have been the same. [Post edited 17 Jan 11:13]
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What was the plan tonight on 23:42 - Jan 16 with 1493 views | kizaitfc |
What was the plan tonight on 23:38 - Jan 16 by Garv | When Morsy's in there he demands the ball and will happily take it and hold onto it in tight spaces. I don't think Phillips can do that or particularly wants to do that. Not sure that experiment worked, but the end result may well have been the same. [Post edited 17 Jan 11:13]
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Spot on neither Cajuste or Phillips went out of their way to want the ball. Morsy continuosly wants the ball sometimes at the wrong times but he shows desire to drag the team up the pitch. Phillips and Cajuste although didn't do much wrong they didn't do anything to carry the squad like you want your CMS to do |  |
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What was the plan tonight on 23:46 - Jan 16 with 1440 views | BloomBlue | To be honest I thought the plan (and system) was the same as against Chelsea. The difference was Chelsea decided to experiment and played 2 crap CHs. Hurzeler instead identified Delap as the danger and played two CHs who had the pace/strength to stick with Delap. We are also still making wrong decisions, Hutch in the first half has Burns overlapping completely unmarked, but for some strange reason Hutch cuts inside and tries a shot that needs to beat 4 Brighton players- never in a million years |  | |  |
What was the plan tonight on 00:08 - Jan 17 with 1315 views | stonojnr |
What was the plan tonight on 23:42 - Jan 16 by kizaitfc | Spot on neither Cajuste or Phillips went out of their way to want the ball. Morsy continuosly wants the ball sometimes at the wrong times but he shows desire to drag the team up the pitch. Phillips and Cajuste although didn't do much wrong they didn't do anything to carry the squad like you want your CMS to do |
Morsy demanded the ball from Walton from a goal kick, which he instantly passed straight back to Walton. I wasnt quite sure how that helped the game situation. Cajuste & Phillips did well I thought, they were holding space, rather than demanding the ball, to make it difficult for Brighton despite their possession to do anything with it, which worked for about 50odd minutes. |  | |  |
What was the plan tonight on 00:12 - Jan 17 with 1292 views | nshearman1 |
What was the plan tonight on 23:42 - Jan 16 by kizaitfc | Spot on neither Cajuste or Phillips went out of their way to want the ball. Morsy continuosly wants the ball sometimes at the wrong times but he shows desire to drag the team up the pitch. Phillips and Cajuste although didn't do much wrong they didn't do anything to carry the squad like you want your CMS to do |
Totally agree with this. The dropping of Morsy effectively gave the game to them and meant we were entirely parking the bus at home. They're a team that works on maintaining possession, and we ceded that to them consistently - no-one in midfield to really put their foot on the ball and play. Cajuste works best playing off Morsy. It felt like McKenna hoped we could do without Morsy, spending too much time looking at Sunday's game. But this was the game from which we needed to get something. |  | |  |
What was the plan tonight on 00:42 - Jan 17 with 1143 views | _clive_baker_ | I thought we were passive, and ponderous in possession. We didn’t get the ball from back to front quickly enough, weren’t direct enough and when we were lacked the quality with the balls. Hopeful long balls rather than into the right areas. I think in these sort of games we almost need to create a bit of chaos, you ask yourself what do they least want to see and to my mind it’s not us trying to play in front of them. They’re perfectly happy to see that. All too predictable and easy to defend. There were times when you think just drop a ball over their fullbacks head, turn them around and give Delap something to chase. Try to getting some territory in the right areas at least because we’re not going to cut them open playing through them. We did that well against Chelsea and Delap’s good at running off the shoulder. Into his feet with his back to goal in the centre circle is fine sometimes, but we lacked any real variety and certainly didn’t get him into the game enough. We were ponderous and most of what we did was in front of them and pretty easy to defend. It wasn’t a bad performance for an hour or so but Brighton really did a job on us and we didn’t ask many questions of them at all. [Post edited 17 Jan 0:46]
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What was the plan tonight on 08:24 - Jan 17 with 750 views | seblue78 |
What was the plan tonight on 23:38 - Jan 16 by Garv | When Morsy's in there he demands the ball and will happily take it and hold onto it in tight spaces. I don't think Phillips can do that or particularly wants to do that. Not sure that experiment worked, but the end result may well have been the same. [Post edited 17 Jan 11:13]
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Exactly this - he’s fundamental to our way of playing even if it sometimes creates risk (risk/reward). Phillips just doesn’t offer that. And when he does receive the ball he tends to take the safe option which slows the play down. I find it really odd people can’t appreciate just how important morsy is to our style of play. |  | |  |
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