Bit disappointed with the BBC 20:56 - Apr 21 with 2856 views | redrickstuhaart | Blanket pope coverage. Nothing on the front page about the protests against Trump yesterday. Its 2025... |  | | |  |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:00 - Apr 21 with 2541 views | DJR | Though it's probably annoying Trump that he is no longer the main item in the news. |  | |  |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:00 - Apr 21 with 2541 views | Cheltenham_Blue | I’m the only one in my family that isn’t catholic. I’ve stayed off facebook today so I don’t have to see my sisters pretending to be good, devout catholics. |  |
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:19 - Apr 21 with 2412 views | redrickstuhaart |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:00 - Apr 21 by Cheltenham_Blue | I’m the only one in my family that isn’t catholic. I’ve stayed off facebook today so I don’t have to see my sisters pretending to be good, devout catholics. |
The very idea that the pope is god's spokeperson on earth is a bit odd, when each one has their own different views on things... Sure- have a leader for your religion. But I struggle with the whole infallibility thing. And I am unconvinced that he should be such big news in a modern world where we know that much of what he says is highly questionable. |  | |  |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:25 - Apr 21 with 2368 views | Guthrum |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:19 - Apr 21 by redrickstuhaart | The very idea that the pope is god's spokeperson on earth is a bit odd, when each one has their own different views on things... Sure- have a leader for your religion. But I struggle with the whole infallibility thing. And I am unconvinced that he should be such big news in a modern world where we know that much of what he says is highly questionable. |
Papal Infallibility is only under specific circumstances (speaking ex cathedra, or from the Throne of Peter), not all the time. It's also quite a recent doctrine, wasn't defined and promulgated until the late 19th century. [Post edited 21 Apr 21:25]
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:32 - Apr 21 with 2326 views | redrickstuhaart |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:25 - Apr 21 by Guthrum | Papal Infallibility is only under specific circumstances (speaking ex cathedra, or from the Throne of Peter), not all the time. It's also quite a recent doctrine, wasn't defined and promulgated until the late 19th century. [Post edited 21 Apr 21:25]
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But it shows just how silly it all is, just the same. People effectively worship him. |  | |  |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:40 - Apr 21 with 2281 views | bournemouthblue |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:32 - Apr 21 by redrickstuhaart | But it shows just how silly it all is, just the same. People effectively worship him. |
I'm pretty sure I remember wall to wall coverage that the Queen had died, a national week of mourning or whatever it was If it was somewhere like North Korea, we'd mock them for being a banana republic |  |
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:43 - Apr 21 with 2267 views | redrickstuhaart |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:40 - Apr 21 by bournemouthblue | I'm pretty sure I remember wall to wall coverage that the Queen had died, a national week of mourning or whatever it was If it was somewhere like North Korea, we'd mock them for being a banana republic |
It was more than I thought was necessary. But it was the queen fo this nation, who had been around for a very long time and served with dignity and decency for the most part. The pope is probably only of relevance to about 8 percent of the population. |  | |  |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:44 - Apr 21 with 2265 views | BanksterDebtSlave | The documentary about him now on BBC has been interesting though. |  |
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:52 - Apr 21 with 2204 views | bournemouthblue |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:43 - Apr 21 by redrickstuhaart | It was more than I thought was necessary. But it was the queen fo this nation, who had been around for a very long time and served with dignity and decency for the most part. The pope is probably only of relevance to about 8 percent of the population. |
It is always a lot more than necessary, I guess rolling news is to blame sadly, it becomes competitive |  |
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:56 - Apr 21 with 2196 views | Oldsmoker | There are 8 major religions/faiths in the world. Some say that if you belong to any other religion then you follow a false god and you are a blasphemer and will burn in the fires of hell for all eternity. You have a 1 in 8 chance that you've picked the right religion. |  |
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 22:03 - Apr 21 with 2145 views | azuremerlangus |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:00 - Apr 21 by DJR | Though it's probably annoying Trump that he is no longer the main item in the news. |
Oh I don’t know, he is obviously feeling left out since the Pope popped his clogs… https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce92y3j9v34o |  |
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 22:10 - Apr 21 with 2102 views | Oldsmoker |
I wonder why Jerome Powell, noted economist, hasn't taken the advice of 6-times bankrupt Donny Trump whose policies are currently crashing the US economy. |  |
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 22:13 - Apr 21 with 2077 views | bournemouthblue |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:56 - Apr 21 by Oldsmoker | There are 8 major religions/faiths in the world. Some say that if you belong to any other religion then you follow a false god and you are a blasphemer and will burn in the fires of hell for all eternity. You have a 1 in 8 chance that you've picked the right religion. |
That's on the assumption that everyone has a religion, in the UK we are fairly godless in the main |  |
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 22:17 - Apr 21 with 2050 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 22:10 - Apr 21 by Oldsmoker | I wonder why Jerome Powell, noted economist, hasn't taken the advice of 6-times bankrupt Donny Trump whose policies are currently crashing the US economy. |
But also, who hasn't paid tribute to a dead pope while standing next to a giant rabbit. |  |
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 22:29 - Apr 21 with 1958 views | Whos_blue |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 22:17 - Apr 21 by BanksterDebtSlave | But also, who hasn't paid tribute to a dead pope while standing next to a giant rabbit. |
Wasn't that just insane? Even the beeb couldn't resist a crafty dig. |  |
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 06:36 - Apr 22 with 1641 views | RIPbobby | Somebody needs to remind the BBC that the UK is essentially a protestant country. Goodness they could even do a bit on Henry xviii and why we are that way. |  | |  |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 07:26 - Apr 22 with 1529 views | NthQldITFC |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 22:17 - Apr 21 by BanksterDebtSlave | But also, who hasn't paid tribute to a dead pope while standing next to a giant rabbit. |
Don't you know? The Giant Rabbit is actually the personification of the deity of the ninth major religion of this crazy, ignorant, self-destructive world - Flopsyism. Trump is a bigly adherent and eats his own sh!t daily. |  |
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 08:12 - Apr 22 with 1424 views | Churchman |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 22:10 - Apr 21 by Oldsmoker | I wonder why Jerome Powell, noted economist, hasn't taken the advice of 6-times bankrupt Donny Trump whose policies are currently crashing the US economy. |
Just been reading about that. The Fed Reserve is traditionally non political. The Donald is trying to change that. He wants control, as he does with everything, and he wants Powell out. He’s criticised him more than once, because the orange one knows best. From your link "There can be a SLOWING of the economy unless Mr. Too Late, a major loser, lowers interest rates, NOW," he wrote. What a rude, stupid man. So Trump is crashing the economy and stoking inflation with his actions and blaming it on the Fed Reserve Chair. The Markets though seem to have made their own mind up. Oops! You couldn’t make it up. [Post edited 22 Apr 9:14]
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 08:57 - Apr 22 with 1325 views | You_Bloo_Right |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 06:36 - Apr 22 by RIPbobby | Somebody needs to remind the BBC that the UK is essentially a protestant country. Goodness they could even do a bit on Henry xviii and why we are that way. |
Henry the eighteenth?!!! Blimey! |  |
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 09:24 - Apr 22 with 1251 views | Churchman |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 06:36 - Apr 22 by RIPbobby | Somebody needs to remind the BBC that the UK is essentially a protestant country. Goodness they could even do a bit on Henry xviii and why we are that way. |
To quote Lady Whiteadder from Blackadder 2, ‘Cold is God's way of telling us to burn more Catholics’. Ahh, Lady Whiteadder (Miriam Margolyes) the way forward for 2025. Maniacally devout, denounces most everyday comforts as the work of Satan, including chairs for being comfortable; at home, they sit on a single spike. “Two spikes would be extravagant” |  | |  |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 09:36 - Apr 22 with 1205 views | Guthrum |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 06:36 - Apr 22 by RIPbobby | Somebody needs to remind the BBC that the UK is essentially a protestant country. Goodness they could even do a bit on Henry xviii and why we are that way. |
Henry VIII was not a Protestant. In fact, he strongly disliked Protestantism. Nearly got rid of his 6th wife, Catherine Parr, because she favoured reformist preachers and writers too much. Henry was an English Catholic. Traditionalist in forms of worship, but disputed the Pope's level of control over the English church*. A row which had already been going on for centuries before his time. He wasn't the first English King to (at least temporarily) deny the supremacy of Rome. Despite the gradual political triumph of Protestantism under Edward VI, Elizabeth I, the post-Civil War Protectorate and the Glorious Revolution (a process taking nearly 150 years), there remained a very sizeable Catholic minority in England, notably in areas like Cheshire/Lancashire and including the highest in society, such as the Dukes of Norfolk. Which is why so many Catholic churches sprang up after the anti-Catholic laws were relaxed between the 1770s and 1829. * Specifically in the matter of a royal divorce - in this case Pope Clement VII refused permission because Rome had just been captured by the forces of Emperor Charles V, Catherine of Aragon's nephew. |  |
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 11:03 - Apr 22 with 1043 views | Churchman |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 09:36 - Apr 22 by Guthrum | Henry VIII was not a Protestant. In fact, he strongly disliked Protestantism. Nearly got rid of his 6th wife, Catherine Parr, because she favoured reformist preachers and writers too much. Henry was an English Catholic. Traditionalist in forms of worship, but disputed the Pope's level of control over the English church*. A row which had already been going on for centuries before his time. He wasn't the first English King to (at least temporarily) deny the supremacy of Rome. Despite the gradual political triumph of Protestantism under Edward VI, Elizabeth I, the post-Civil War Protectorate and the Glorious Revolution (a process taking nearly 150 years), there remained a very sizeable Catholic minority in England, notably in areas like Cheshire/Lancashire and including the highest in society, such as the Dukes of Norfolk. Which is why so many Catholic churches sprang up after the anti-Catholic laws were relaxed between the 1770s and 1829. * Specifically in the matter of a royal divorce - in this case Pope Clement VII refused permission because Rome had just been captured by the forces of Emperor Charles V, Catherine of Aragon's nephew. |
Of course the term ‘defender of the faith’ was given to Henry 8th by the Pope for his Defence of the Seven Sacraments book that recognised the Pope’s supremacy and went against the ideas of Martin Luther. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_of_the_Faith When it came to it, his position, a male heir that Catherine Aragon couldn’t produce and trousering the loot of the Monasteries was more important to Henry than anything else. Interesting how phrases and titles were used to promote whatever you wanted. Nothing is new, Mr Trump. |  | |  |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 11:16 - Apr 22 with 999 views | Meadowlark |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:56 - Apr 21 by Oldsmoker | There are 8 major religions/faiths in the world. Some say that if you belong to any other religion then you follow a false god and you are a blasphemer and will burn in the fires of hell for all eternity. You have a 1 in 8 chance that you've picked the right religion. |
A priest, a pastor, and a rabbit entered a clinic to donate blood. The nurse asked the rabbit: "What's your blood type?" "I'm probably a Type O", said the rabbit. |  | |  |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 11:38 - Apr 22 with 944 views | Guthrum |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 11:03 - Apr 22 by Churchman | Of course the term ‘defender of the faith’ was given to Henry 8th by the Pope for his Defence of the Seven Sacraments book that recognised the Pope’s supremacy and went against the ideas of Martin Luther. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_of_the_Faith When it came to it, his position, a male heir that Catherine Aragon couldn’t produce and trousering the loot of the Monasteries was more important to Henry than anything else. Interesting how phrases and titles were used to promote whatever you wanted. Nothing is new, Mr Trump. |
Even monastic reform had been a hot topic in Europe for a long time before Henry took action. The big houses had hoovered up a lot of wealth/estates through the centuries and were to a large extent ring-fenced from taxation (a bit like large companies today). There was a vast profusion of small and tiny establishments which were often virtually empty and/or impoverished. Being badly run, even corrupt and sometimes overly political (especially being able to appeal to an outside authority in Rome, which claimed supremacy even in secular matters) was an issue throughout. Unfortunately, monastic organisations also provided much of England's social care and education. Which suddenly wasn't there any more. Which is why, for example, literacy rates declined from the 16th century and Elizabeth's government had to formalise a system of parish relief in the (Old) Poor Law. |  |
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Bit disappointed with the BBC on 11:46 - Apr 22 with 919 views | Eireannach_gorm |
Bit disappointed with the BBC on 21:43 - Apr 21 by redrickstuhaart | It was more than I thought was necessary. But it was the queen fo this nation, who had been around for a very long time and served with dignity and decency for the most part. The pope is probably only of relevance to about 8 percent of the population. |
As a non practicing Catholic, I would have an ambiguous attitude to the pope but think he tried to connect with ordinary members of the church congregation. Also as the head of a religion that has 1.4billion members ( approx 18% of world population ), I would suggest that his death is quite news worthy. |  | |  |
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