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Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' 18:03 - Nov 26 with 762 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Its all a bit 'Merican

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Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 18:09 - Nov 26 with 740 viewsDJR

I do tend to think it is an expression that is used pejoratively these days, and maybe there is an element of its being an Americanism, but then again the system is known as the Welfare State.

As regards the expression "benefits", that in social security legislation includes the state pension, so as someone just about to reach state pension age, I will be proud to be living on Benefits Street, as the main article in the Mail Online is headed
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Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 18:27 - Nov 26 with 674 viewsMullet

Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 18:09 - Nov 26 by DJR

I do tend to think it is an expression that is used pejoratively these days, and maybe there is an element of its being an Americanism, but then again the system is known as the Welfare State.

As regards the expression "benefits", that in social security legislation includes the state pension, so as someone just about to reach state pension age, I will be proud to be living on Benefits Street, as the main article in the Mail Online is headed
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The right seem to ape the far right, who ape MAGA, etc but yes, I was disappointed to hear colleagues slating the budget today for selfish reasons and talking in less than complimentary terms about certain things.

Led to an interesting debate at least, but I do think as a nation we've become so self-centred as a kneejerk reaction to most things.

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Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 19:02 - Nov 26 with 583 viewsMeadowlark

Talking of which, I heard a pundit describing how the budget would hit your "pocket book."
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Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 19:10 - Nov 26 with 568 viewsJ2BLUE

I think welfare is a lot softer term than benefits.

Not defending the awful Badenoch though as she then went on to attack 'benefits street' seconds later.

Truly impaired.
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Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 19:21 - Nov 26 with 533 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 19:10 - Nov 26 by J2BLUE

I think welfare is a lot softer term than benefits.

Not defending the awful Badenoch though as she then went on to attack 'benefits street' seconds later.



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Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 19:22 - Nov 26 with 531 viewsSwansea_Blue

Hasn’t it always been the welfare budget?

Labour must be delighted that Badenoch the Tory leader. I bet they can’t believe their luck that they’re not the worst show in town.

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Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 19:35 - Nov 26 with 480 viewsWeWereZombies

Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 19:10 - Nov 26 by J2BLUE

I think welfare is a lot softer term than benefits.

Not defending the awful Badenoch though as she then went on to attack 'benefits street' seconds later.


I watched the whole of Reeves budget speech (because I thought this year it could have some pivotal signs of where the remainder of this Government's term is headed, leadership challenges permitting) and was struck by how subdued Badenoch looked throughout, despite Reeves continual hammer and tongs attacks on the previous administration. Also noted that the SNP and even the Greens got a share of the dismissal and disdain but the Liberal Democrats and Reform appear to be too insignificant or lightweight to be worth a mention.

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Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 19:46 - Nov 26 with 449 viewsCoachRob

Virtually all economic thinking in the UK is derived from dead American economists. Milton Friedman's "No free lunch" nonsense got an airing on another thread, despite modern civilisation being built on Gibbs free energy from fossilized sunlight. Kemi Badenoch would very much approve of Milton's mad economic thinking.
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Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 20:00 - Nov 26 with 400 viewsCoachRob

Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 19:35 - Nov 26 by WeWereZombies

I watched the whole of Reeves budget speech (because I thought this year it could have some pivotal signs of where the remainder of this Government's term is headed, leadership challenges permitting) and was struck by how subdued Badenoch looked throughout, despite Reeves continual hammer and tongs attacks on the previous administration. Also noted that the SNP and even the Greens got a share of the dismissal and disdain but the Liberal Democrats and Reform appear to be too insignificant or lightweight to be worth a mention.


Reeves was like a child at the dispatch box with the silly jibs. Her securonomics drivel has completely failed and I'm much looking forward to the 'experts' explaining the lags in the economy as the OBR's potty New Keynesian model doesn't have any, a flat 1.5% growth across the forecast with bizarre equilibrium dynamics for inflation. The BoE has hit it's inflation target for one month of this entire decade.
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Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 20:15 - Nov 26 with 377 viewsITFC_Forever

Who?

Thought the Conservatives had disbanded due to a lack of interest.
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Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 20:18 - Nov 26 with 356 viewsWeWereZombies

Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 20:00 - Nov 26 by CoachRob

Reeves was like a child at the dispatch box with the silly jibs. Her securonomics drivel has completely failed and I'm much looking forward to the 'experts' explaining the lags in the economy as the OBR's potty New Keynesian model doesn't have any, a flat 1.5% growth across the forecast with bizarre equilibrium dynamics for inflation. The BoE has hit it's inflation target for one month of this entire decade.


However in political terms she came out on the attack and the OBR leak was soon forgotten, it was quite bravura (perhaps helped by Lindsay Hoyle not being in the Speaker's chair) and I think many will feel some relief that a course is being steered between no return to austerity and a blow the budget pursuit of social reform.

It has been clear for months that she was going to be between a rock and a hard place and, that given, what was presented had a lot of detail and good intent. Whether that gets taken through to a beneficial performance for the rest of the term (and I think unless things go drastically wrong the next two budgets are going to be adjustments to this one) will determine how well set up Labour are for a successful campaign in the next election.

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Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 20:24 - Nov 26 with 323 viewsSwansea_Blue

Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 19:35 - Nov 26 by WeWereZombies

I watched the whole of Reeves budget speech (because I thought this year it could have some pivotal signs of where the remainder of this Government's term is headed, leadership challenges permitting) and was struck by how subdued Badenoch looked throughout, despite Reeves continual hammer and tongs attacks on the previous administration. Also noted that the SNP and even the Greens got a share of the dismissal and disdain but the Liberal Democrats and Reform appear to be too insignificant or lightweight to be worth a mention.


I was lucky enough to not see it! Labour’s job is stupidly easy. They could do with some intelligent challenging from the House, it would help improve things for all of us. But maybe I’m being too idealistic and naive to think that cauldron of tribalism could ever work in the best interests of the UK public.

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Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 20:33 - Nov 26 with 273 viewsbartyg

Why has Kemi started calling benefits, 'Welfare' on 20:18 - Nov 26 by WeWereZombies

However in political terms she came out on the attack and the OBR leak was soon forgotten, it was quite bravura (perhaps helped by Lindsay Hoyle not being in the Speaker's chair) and I think many will feel some relief that a course is being steered between no return to austerity and a blow the budget pursuit of social reform.

It has been clear for months that she was going to be between a rock and a hard place and, that given, what was presented had a lot of detail and good intent. Whether that gets taken through to a beneficial performance for the rest of the term (and I think unless things go drastically wrong the next two budgets are going to be adjustments to this one) will determine how well set up Labour are for a successful campaign in the next election.


Flipside, it's a status quo budget that barely addresses the actual problems in the economy.

The right leaning media are going to hate Labour for it either way, so why not be a bit more imaginative?

Glad the two child benefit cap has been abolished. Let it never see the light of day again.
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