| Throwing Cup games 08:27 - Feb 14 with 1082 views | Wickets |
Has never worked and will never be justifiable IMO . |  | | |  |
| Throwing Cup games on 09:34 - Feb 14 with 1007 views | UffordBlue |
Tend to agree but looking back at Maidstone in 24/25, it was a blessing in disguise. I’ll judge last night at 5pm next Saturday - big performance and 3 points a must! |  | | |
| Throwing Cup games on 09:39 - Feb 14 with 988 views | Herbivore |
We didn't throw the game. |  |
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| Throwing Cup games on 09:48 - Feb 14 with 972 views | MrPotatoHead |
We didn’t ‘throw’ the game. We made a lot of changes and lost to the better team while trying to win it. |  | | |
| Throwing Cup games on 09:53 - Feb 14 with 933 views | RobTheMonk |
| Throwing Cup games on 09:39 - Feb 14 by Herbivore |
We didn't throw the game. |
No, we were so bad that we couldn't even pick it up to throw  . |  | | |
| Throwing Cup games on 10:14 - Feb 14 with 883 views | EastTownBlue |
| Throwing Cup games on 09:34 - Feb 14 by UffordBlue |
Tend to agree but looking back at Maidstone in 24/25, it was a blessing in disguise. I’ll judge last night at 5pm next Saturday - big performance and 3 points a must! |
A week after Maidstone we lost at Preston so maybe judge at the end of the season. | | | |
| Throwing Cup games on 10:33 - Feb 14 with 801 views | nrb1985 |
We had about 5 forwards on for the last 10 mins…
I was disappointed with the performance last night but we obviously didn’t throw it did we? | | | |
| Throwing Cup games on 11:21 - Feb 14 with 745 views | stonojnr |
| Throwing Cup games on 09:53 - Feb 14 by RobTheMonk |
No, we were so bad that we couldn't even pick it up to throw . |
we were so bad we lost 1-0 and put up a decent fight the stats were pretty even part from shots on target...whilst Hull lost 4-0 at home, to Chelseas reserve team as they had Delap up front who missed a sitter so it could have been 5, Hull only had 24% possession.
maybe want to rethink the how "bad" were we outcomes there. | | | |
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| Throwing Cup games on 11:23 - Feb 14 with 741 views | Guthrum |
We didn't throw the game. We didn't just allow Wrexham to score and our toothlessness wasn't from lack of intent.
The team was disjointed in the first half*, then certain players' lack of confidence and forward-thinking** in the face of tight marking and a strong press from a capable opposition took the energy out of our attacking style. Passing accuracy was notably down on usual, too.
Edit: If we were throwing the game, why did he bring on players like O'Shea, Mehmeti, Clarke, Azon, rather than Youths just to give them a bit of a run out.
* O'Shea's organisation made a marked difference when he came on.
** No names, no pack drill. [Post edited 14 Feb 11:29]
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| Throwing Cup games on 11:31 - Feb 14 with 719 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Throwing Cup games on 11:23 - Feb 14 by Guthrum |
We didn't throw the game. We didn't just allow Wrexham to score and our toothlessness wasn't from lack of intent.
The team was disjointed in the first half*, then certain players' lack of confidence and forward-thinking** in the face of tight marking and a strong press from a capable opposition took the energy out of our attacking style. Passing accuracy was notably down on usual, too.
Edit: If we were throwing the game, why did he bring on players like O'Shea, Mehmeti, Clarke, Azon, rather than Youths just to give them a bit of a run out.
* O'Shea's organisation made a marked difference when he came on.
** No names, no pack drill. [Post edited 14 Feb 11:29]
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Oshea was always planned
Clarke went left back
Mehmeti and azon were the only other trustable subs available.
Throwing the game. No
Trying everything to win it. Nah
But thats not a gripe of mine.
My personal gripe is just how poor individually alot of this squad still are. |  |
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| Throwing Cup games on 11:40 - Feb 14 with 713 views | Guthrum |
| Throwing Cup games on 11:31 - Feb 14 by FrimleyBlue |
Oshea was always planned
Clarke went left back
Mehmeti and azon were the only other trustable subs available.
Throwing the game. No
Trying everything to win it. Nah
But thats not a gripe of mine.
My personal gripe is just how poor individually alot of this squad still are. |
I'd agree with that. Trying everything to win would have been fielding the usual League stup against a side who are, after all, only three places below us in the same division. Something we were never going to do.
Yes, several members of the squad had quite poor performances last night. I suspect there are one or two we may see less of than expected during the remainder of the season. | |
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| Throwing Cup games on 11:42 - Feb 14 with 702 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Throwing Cup games on 11:31 - Feb 14 by FrimleyBlue |
Oshea was always planned
Clarke went left back
Mehmeti and azon were the only other trustable subs available.
Throwing the game. No
Trying everything to win it. Nah
But thats not a gripe of mine.
My personal gripe is just how poor individually alot of this squad still are. |
This is where I am. I've lost no sleep over a cup exit but I really wanted some players to show us, KM, and more importantly themselves that they are worth consideration for a start in games for the run in.
Last night just made me worry what would happen if he had injuries. |  |
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| Throwing Cup games on 11:44 - Feb 14 with 687 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Throwing Cup games on 11:40 - Feb 14 by Guthrum |
I'd agree with that. Trying everything to win would have been fielding the usual League stup against a side who are, after all, only three places below us in the same division. Something we were never going to do.
Yes, several members of the squad had quite poor performances last night. I suspect there are one or two we may see less of than expected during the remainder of the season. |
I think if we were doing everything to win it
At ht we'd have seen clarke for akpom. Azon for hirst. Mehmeti for egeli
Then wevd had had a good 20 odd minutes before taylor for neil and we'd have had had a really strong final third flowing football imo.
But we just saw the game out. If a goal happend it happened.
Im just really annoyed at some of our recruitment. Alot of it has been excellent. But a lot of it is extremely poor too. | |
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| Throwing Cup games on 11:46 - Feb 14 with 679 views | mellowblue |
I wish we had thrown it, at least that would excuse the complete lack of attacking verve, guile, imagination, execution. But alas, we did not and were just completely inept. It is not as if we threw youngsters and fringe players in, these were trusted squad members. Take Clarke and Philogene out of our team and we look toothless. | | | |
| Throwing Cup games on 12:05 - Feb 14 with 640 views | Nutkins_Return |
Good job it didn't happen then. | |
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| Throwing Cup games on 12:07 - Feb 14 with 631 views | MrPotatoHead |
| Throwing Cup games on 11:44 - Feb 14 by FrimleyBlue |
I think if we were doing everything to win it
At ht we'd have seen clarke for akpom. Azon for hirst. Mehmeti for egeli
Then wevd had had a good 20 odd minutes before taylor for neil and we'd have had had a really strong final third flowing football imo.
But we just saw the game out. If a goal happend it happened.
Im just really annoyed at some of our recruitment. Alot of it has been excellent. But a lot of it is extremely poor too. |
The decisions were with a view to complimenting the league campaign, but that doesn’t mean we weren’t trying to win the game with the context of that. | | | |
| Throwing Cup games on 14:10 - Feb 14 with 551 views | Wickets |
For me we did throw the game as the general feeling from the manager that spread to the players was that it did not really matter Blimey losing by a single goal for about an hour and don't think we managed a shot on target , How could we possibly get back into the match . Total lack of effort and lack of respect for the travelling fans . | | | |
| Throwing Cup games on 14:25 - Feb 14 with 504 views | Smoresy |
More comforting to think we did maybe. I only saw some individuals really struggling with form, tactics, Wrexham's level or a combination, which is regrettable obvs. Substituting in more and more of the first XI in the second half wasn't a safe strategy for throwing the game. | | | |
| Throwing Cup games on 14:33 - Feb 14 with 480 views | Radlett_blue |
| Throwing Cup games on 14:10 - Feb 14 by Wickets |
For me we did throw the game as the general feeling from the manager that spread to the players was that it did not really matter Blimey losing by a single goal for about an hour and don't think we managed a shot on target , How could we possibly get back into the match . Total lack of effort and lack of respect for the travelling fans . |
Anyone travelling to Wrexham should have been aware that the FA Cup is a low priority for Town & we were always likely to play a weak starting XI. |  |
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| Throwing Cup games on 14:48 - Feb 14 with 451 views | HighgateBlue |
Whether we threw it or not, McKenna has made it clear he doesn't really care about it. That is a shame.
I don't really mind about the League Cup, and I certainly never minded about any Papa John's nonsense. These have never been revered competitions, and it is fair enough to use those lesser competitions for squad rotation in this modern age, when we understand that top players must be managed carefully.
But, this club, albeit before most of us were born, won the FA Cup. It is part of our identity, and great history. It was then, and it was for much of my life, a great competition and a revered competition. The greatest in the world maybe, at one time. It also symbolises the romance of the game.
Those who say they don't care appear to me to be in the same camp as Sky Sports, Venkys, and the proponents of ever expanding playoffs. Many fans complain that the game has been reduced to nothing more than money (despite very few actually making any money, apart from top players through inflated wages). Why say that the league is /the/ priority, as if the FA Cup isn't really even /a/ priority, when the only basis for that is getting promoted and enjoying the splashback of the Sky Sports p*ss, so that we can then splurge £10m+ on sundry wingers once we've been spat out again. Would getting to a Cup Final mean so much less than having the opportunity for a season like last year? Really?
If you like football (for something other than an investment) then the top competitions are more than just a means to an end. They ARE the end. They are the thing, the very think we claim to care about.
It is cultural vandalism what has happened to the FA Cup this century. And it is frankly shameful what our own club's record in that competition looks like in that time.
Of course if we go up I will be delighted with this season. But that does not make the decision to treat the FA Cup like a joke a correct one.
Baggott had his chance and to be honest he's not up to the Championship. He's no longer a nipper, and I suspect that's the end of him.
As for Hirst, well, it's like he's been coached in how not to finish. The failure to land a striker was a massive massive gamble. If Clarke and Philogene can carry on scoring bucketfuls, including being awarded late penalties, and if Nunez knocks in another few long range freekicks, we may get away with it. But I am doubtful. I guess Azon will start against Wrexham in the league. Let's hope he's been on some kind of course, because he doesn't look like anyone has told him a considerable part of his job is to score. Perhaps they haven't.
The way to show how much the league matters was to sign a top 6 number 9. |  | | |
| Throwing Cup games on 15:14 - Feb 14 with 399 views | BloomBlue |
| Throwing Cup games on 14:48 - Feb 14 by HighgateBlue |
Whether we threw it or not, McKenna has made it clear he doesn't really care about it. That is a shame.
I don't really mind about the League Cup, and I certainly never minded about any Papa John's nonsense. These have never been revered competitions, and it is fair enough to use those lesser competitions for squad rotation in this modern age, when we understand that top players must be managed carefully.
But, this club, albeit before most of us were born, won the FA Cup. It is part of our identity, and great history. It was then, and it was for much of my life, a great competition and a revered competition. The greatest in the world maybe, at one time. It also symbolises the romance of the game.
Those who say they don't care appear to me to be in the same camp as Sky Sports, Venkys, and the proponents of ever expanding playoffs. Many fans complain that the game has been reduced to nothing more than money (despite very few actually making any money, apart from top players through inflated wages). Why say that the league is /the/ priority, as if the FA Cup isn't really even /a/ priority, when the only basis for that is getting promoted and enjoying the splashback of the Sky Sports p*ss, so that we can then splurge £10m+ on sundry wingers once we've been spat out again. Would getting to a Cup Final mean so much less than having the opportunity for a season like last year? Really?
If you like football (for something other than an investment) then the top competitions are more than just a means to an end. They ARE the end. They are the thing, the very think we claim to care about.
It is cultural vandalism what has happened to the FA Cup this century. And it is frankly shameful what our own club's record in that competition looks like in that time.
Of course if we go up I will be delighted with this season. But that does not make the decision to treat the FA Cup like a joke a correct one.
Baggott had his chance and to be honest he's not up to the Championship. He's no longer a nipper, and I suspect that's the end of him.
As for Hirst, well, it's like he's been coached in how not to finish. The failure to land a striker was a massive massive gamble. If Clarke and Philogene can carry on scoring bucketfuls, including being awarded late penalties, and if Nunez knocks in another few long range freekicks, we may get away with it. But I am doubtful. I guess Azon will start against Wrexham in the league. Let's hope he's been on some kind of course, because he doesn't look like anyone has told him a considerable part of his job is to score. Perhaps they haven't.
The way to show how much the league matters was to sign a top 6 number 9. |
My point is slightly different.
If we had put out a stronger team, closed down, attacked, won 3-1 but lost two of our first 11 out with season long injuries. Then as a result of losing those injured players, (plus losing in the next round) see us falling out of the play offs, would the current moaners, moan about that?
I'll answer it for you, yes they would.
Lots of the same posters moaning we should take it seriously last night, would be blaming KM for being so stupid to take Wrexham away in the FA Cup seriously.
That's the problem with many Town fans, they're never happy unless they're moaning. |  | | |
| Throwing Cup games on 15:37 - Feb 14 with 375 views | Wickets |
| Throwing Cup games on 14:33 - Feb 14 by Radlett_blue |
Anyone travelling to Wrexham should have been aware that the FA Cup is a low priority for Town & we were always likely to play a weak starting XI. |
All who played were part of the first team squad but failed to show the required effort but from your comment you seem to be happy with the performance. | | | |
| Throwing Cup games on 15:40 - Feb 14 with 366 views | Wickets |
| Throwing Cup games on 15:14 - Feb 14 by BloomBlue |
My point is slightly different.
If we had put out a stronger team, closed down, attacked, won 3-1 but lost two of our first 11 out with season long injuries. Then as a result of losing those injured players, (plus losing in the next round) see us falling out of the play offs, would the current moaners, moan about that?
I'll answer it for you, yes they would.
Lots of the same posters moaning we should take it seriously last night, would be blaming KM for being so stupid to take Wrexham away in the FA Cup seriously.
That's the problem with many Town fans, they're never happy unless they're moaning. |
Fact you can lose players to injury in training sessions but that does not stop you training . For me our attitude and effort was not good enough. | | | |
| Throwing Cup games on 15:45 - Feb 14 with 352 views | Radlett_blue |
| Throwing Cup games on 15:37 - Feb 14 by Wickets |
All who played were part of the first team squad but failed to show the required effort but from your comment you seem to be happy with the performance. |
The performance is a different thing from the selection, although it wasn't surprising on the back of 10 team changes. The FA Cup is a very low priority. If we were in mid table, I would have hoped for Town to put out a much stronger team. | |
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| Throwing Cup games on 17:00 - Feb 14 with 266 views | Wickets |
| Throwing Cup games on 15:45 - Feb 14 by Radlett_blue |
The performance is a different thing from the selection, although it wasn't surprising on the back of 10 team changes. The FA Cup is a very low priority. If we were in mid table, I would have hoped for Town to put out a much stronger team. |
Nothing to do with the team we put out it was the fact that we made very little effort to win the game . | | | |
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