| Supposing I came to your house... 12:51 - Mar 21 with 2147 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
....killed your pet, burned your house down, and blew up your car...
...would you hail me a peace maker if I returned to your house and said that I would stop?
Strange world. |  |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 12:53 - Mar 21 with 1589 views | J2BLUE |
I don't have a pet, I live in a flat and my car is insured.
Do your worst. |  |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 12:54 - Mar 21 with 1576 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 12:53 - Mar 21 by J2BLUE |
I don't have a pet, I live in a flat and my car is insured.
Do your worst. |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:04 - Mar 21 with 1557 views | Guthrum |
Depends if you persuaded all your family and mates to stop doing it too (which they had been since before you were involved), I agreed not to do it to you (which had also been going on for decades), then we worked together in cooperation to stop it happening again. |  |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:06 - Mar 21 with 1522 views | WeWereZombies |
Isn't it more a case that the bag carrier saw what he had gotten involved with and thought he would like to put a stop to it? And the murder men were more likely to listen to their bag carrier than they were to us? |  |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:12 - Mar 21 with 1496 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:04 - Mar 21 by Guthrum |
Depends if you persuaded all your family and mates to stop doing it too (which they had been since before you were involved), I agreed not to do it to you (which had also been going on for decades), then we worked together in cooperation to stop it happening again. |
1,800 murders, over a third of those were innocent civilians. Not sure there is any justification for that.
People will do anything for power! | |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:14 - Mar 21 with 1467 views | MJallday |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 12:53 - Mar 21 by J2BLUE |
I don't have a pet, I live in a flat and my car is insured.
Do your worst. |
he could make you a boiled egg? |  |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:16 - Mar 21 with 1454 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:06 - Mar 21 by WeWereZombies |
Isn't it more a case that the bag carrier saw what he had gotten involved with and thought he would like to put a stop to it? And the murder men were more likely to listen to their bag carrier than they were to us? |
Id love to see the job description for that particular 'bag carrying' role.
If a bag carrier didn't murder people / order the murder, then there's more of an argument. | |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:19 - Mar 21 with 1444 views | Guthrum |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:12 - Mar 21 by Marshalls_Mullet |
1,800 murders, over a third of those were innocent civilians. Not sure there is any justification for that.
People will do anything for power! |
No justification. And McGuinness bears responsibility for that. But he was also instrumental in making the situation stop.
Events are rarely simple black and white. | |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:23 - Mar 21 with 1406 views | MattinLondon |
I’m not defending the man but if your country (in your eyes) was being occupied by a foreign power with a history of repression— what would you do to rid that power from your homeland |  | | |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:24 - Mar 21 with 1384 views | gtsb1966 |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:23 - Mar 21 by MattinLondon |
I’m not defending the man but if your country (in your eyes) was being occupied by a foreign power with a history of repression— what would you do to rid that power from your homeland |
I wouldn't blow up children that's for sure!! |  | | |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:25 - Mar 21 with 1380 views | Blue_Order |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:23 - Mar 21 by MattinLondon |
I’m not defending the man but if your country (in your eyes) was being occupied by a foreign power with a history of repression— what would you do to rid that power from your homeland |
Do not be fooled into thinking his way was the only way. John Hume did not join the IRA. Don't get sucked into that nonsense. |  | | |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:27 - Mar 21 with 1351 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:19 - Mar 21 by Guthrum |
No justification. And McGuinness bears responsibility for that. But he was also instrumental in making the situation stop.
Events are rarely simple black and white. |
You should know better than that. On here events are ALWAYS black and white. And often just black. |  |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:28 - Mar 21 with 1346 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:23 - Mar 21 by MattinLondon |
I’m not defending the man but if your country (in your eyes) was being occupied by a foreign power with a history of repression— what would you do to rid that power from your homeland |
Not murder civilians. | |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:29 - Mar 21 with 1327 views | Pilgrimblue |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:19 - Mar 21 by Guthrum |
No justification. And McGuinness bears responsibility for that. But he was also instrumental in making the situation stop.
Events are rarely simple black and white. |
That's very true and I believe that the peace has been best for all, however it was achieved.
In every day life there's still inequalities in NI but hope future generations will ensure that will be a thing of the past. |  | | |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:30 - Mar 21 with 1306 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:19 - Mar 21 by Guthrum |
No justification. And McGuinness bears responsibility for that. But he was also instrumental in making the situation stop.
Events are rarely simple black and white. |
He made it stop for his own gain.
He was a politician first and foremost, and the one thing politicians value over anything else is their own power.
He helped stop the situation as it was the best way to further his own political career. | |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:34 - Mar 21 with 1264 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:27 - Mar 21 by Swansea_Blue |
You should know better than that. On here events are ALWAYS black and white. And often just black. |
Racist.
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:36 - Mar 21 with 1243 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:12 - Mar 21 by Marshalls_Mullet |
1,800 murders, over a third of those were innocent civilians. Not sure there is any justification for that.
People will do anything for power! |
No justification whatsoever for a single on of those murders. And that's what they were, murders.
But I don't think anybody on here has tried to justify them. |  |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:41 - Mar 21 with 1214 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:36 - Mar 21 by GlasgowBlue |
No justification whatsoever for a single on of those murders. And that's what they were, murders.
But I don't think anybody on here has tried to justify them. |
I was just responding to a post. | |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:42 - Mar 21 with 1214 views | dryas |
Take a complicated and nuanced piece of recent history and summarise it using a poor analogy. That'll stimulate some sensible debate. |  | | |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:45 - Mar 21 with 1170 views | taximan |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:42 - Mar 21 by dryas |
Take a complicated and nuanced piece of recent history and summarise it using a poor analogy. That'll stimulate some sensible debate. |
oh christ
hug a terrorist is back |  | | |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:47 - Mar 21 with 1155 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:42 - Mar 21 by dryas |
Take a complicated and nuanced piece of recent history and summarise it using a poor analogy. That'll stimulate some sensible debate. |
Seems to have been a reasonable debate until your arrival. Lots of differing views, but perfectly polite.
Nothing to see here, please move along. | |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:54 - Mar 21 with 1100 views | Guthrum |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:30 - Mar 21 by Marshalls_Mullet |
He made it stop for his own gain.
He was a politician first and foremost, and the one thing politicians value over anything else is their own power.
He helped stop the situation as it was the best way to further his own political career. |
Or perhaps because he saw an opportunity for the killing to stop without utter capitulation.
His position in the NI Assembly secured coequal representation for the cause and community in which he believed (unlike in the previous NI Parliament up to 1972). | |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:55 - Mar 21 with 1096 views | noggin |
Depends. What if my Great Great Grandfather had come to your Great Great Grandfather's house, killed his family and moved his mates into the house. I then said, "Hey look, I'm sorry but my mates have been living in the house you inherited for years and they don't want to move, so put up with it or feck off." [Post edited 21 Mar 2017 14:03]
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:56 - Mar 21 with 1090 views | Bluetaff |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:19 - Mar 21 by Guthrum |
No justification. And McGuinness bears responsibility for that. But he was also instrumental in making the situation stop.
Events are rarely simple black and white. |
Must admit I don't particularly agree with the post but to clarify, he wasn't at all responsible for bringing this to an end. He was merely in the right place at the right time when the music stropped.
Adam's was quietly negotiating with the UK government from the early 80's behind the backs of the council. The fact that McG finished up where he did when the guns were laid down. That and the fact that by the end of the '80's it was widely rumoured that he was so frightened of being targeted, both internally as there was infighting as well as external that he simply grabbed the chance at peace when it came. |  |
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| Supposing I came to your house... on 14:03 - Mar 21 with 1038 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Supposing I came to your house... on 13:55 - Mar 21 by noggin |
Depends. What if my Great Great Grandfather had come to your Great Great Grandfather's house, killed his family and moved his mates into the house. I then said, "Hey look, I'm sorry but my mates have been living in the house you inherited for years and they don't want to move, so put up with it or feck off." [Post edited 21 Mar 2017 14:03]
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Sounds like adverse possession would have taken place under the rule of law to be fair.
You're mates would probably be able to provide proof that they had title absolute on the property, assuming they had applied to register it with the land registry.
I doubt I would resort, to killing and arson. I'd probably go through the Courts, and fail. | |
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