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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance 20:46 - Aug 1 with 14456 viewsMeadowlark

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cancel his plans to broadcast his Outdoor TV channel in the UK. Britain is a nature of animal lovers — we don’t want a channel showing horrific videos of animals being killed for ‘fun’.
https://e-activist.com/page/12391/petition/1?ea.url.id=997273&forwarded=true
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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 02:14 - Aug 2 with 5049 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 22:36 - Aug 1 by MJallday

thats not entirely accurate.

they were comparing hunting/animal cruelty to the whipping of horses (rather than horse racing itself) - and there were individuals defending said whipping practice.

incidently i dont believe you can directly compare the two - however i disagree with both.


That wasn't the thread I was referring to

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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 02:29 - Aug 2 with 5041 viewsRyorry

Done & shared.

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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 08:21 - Aug 2 with 5009 viewsRadlett_blue

I disapprove of hunting animals for pleasure, especially "trophy hunting" of harmless animals such as giraffes, but hunting is legal in most countries so Kroenke isn't actually doing anything wrong, although I hope Kroenke's ill advised business venture flops.. However, the idea of people boycotting Arsenal as a result of this venture is absurd. You might as well boycott West Ham because you disapprove of pornography or Ipswich Town because you disapprove of ticket touting.
The USA has a gun & hunting culture. Energies would be better expended on encouraging them to change their absurd gun laws.

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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 09:13 - Aug 2 with 4982 viewsRimmersBrace

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 08:21 - Aug 2 by Radlett_blue

I disapprove of hunting animals for pleasure, especially "trophy hunting" of harmless animals such as giraffes, but hunting is legal in most countries so Kroenke isn't actually doing anything wrong, although I hope Kroenke's ill advised business venture flops.. However, the idea of people boycotting Arsenal as a result of this venture is absurd. You might as well boycott West Ham because you disapprove of pornography or Ipswich Town because you disapprove of ticket touting.
The USA has a gun & hunting culture. Energies would be better expended on encouraging them to change their absurd gun laws.


This is absolutely correct. Hunting is a hugely popular participation sport throughout the world - far more popular than football. It performs a vital conservation function. It teaches discipline and control to kids as well as helping them understand nature.

If you don't like it, or can't afford it, you don't need to do it.
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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 09:18 - Aug 2 with 4979 viewsSwailsey

Thanks for posting - signed.

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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 09:59 - Aug 2 with 4963 viewsgordon

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 09:13 - Aug 2 by RimmersBrace

This is absolutely correct. Hunting is a hugely popular participation sport throughout the world - far more popular than football. It performs a vital conservation function. It teaches discipline and control to kids as well as helping them understand nature.

If you don't like it, or can't afford it, you don't need to do it.


If Lions, Leopards, Elephants, and Rhinos don't want to be hunted, what can they do?

If I'd rather watch migratory birds in the Middle East without hearing shotguns go off every few seconds and see beautiful birds drop from the sky, what can I do?

If I'd rather that Turtle Doves weren't being driven to extinction by hunters across North Africa and Malta, what can I do?

Your opinions, for what it's worth, are frighteningly ignorant. Around the world, hunting for sport is having devastating effect on species.

e.g.

http://www.birdlife.org/sites/default/files/attachments/01-28_low.pdf
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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 10:01 - Aug 2 with 4959 viewsyogiblue

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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 10:07 - Aug 2 with 4953 viewsRyorry

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 08:21 - Aug 2 by Radlett_blue

I disapprove of hunting animals for pleasure, especially "trophy hunting" of harmless animals such as giraffes, but hunting is legal in most countries so Kroenke isn't actually doing anything wrong, although I hope Kroenke's ill advised business venture flops.. However, the idea of people boycotting Arsenal as a result of this venture is absurd. You might as well boycott West Ham because you disapprove of pornography or Ipswich Town because you disapprove of ticket touting.
The USA has a gun & hunting culture. Energies would be better expended on encouraging them to change their absurd gun laws.


Hunting endangered species may be legal in some countries - that doesn't make it acceptable or OK.

Slavery was legal in the UK a couple of hundred years ago; apartheid was legal in S. Africa less than 30 years ago. Would you say the proponents of those things weren't "doing anything wrong"?

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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 12:55 - Aug 2 with 4919 viewsbluejake78

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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 13:33 - Aug 2 with 4907 viewsThePitBoss

Let's ban every thing you don't like.

Snowflake Britain.
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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 13:55 - Aug 2 with 4896 viewsBlue_Order

The only petition I'll ever sign is one to ban petitions.
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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 14:36 - Aug 2 with 4875 viewsmonytowbray

Thanks J2.

If I had of posted the same comment under my name this thread would be six pages long.

Utterly baffling how people can eat meat then get upset about seeing an animal getting killed on the TV.

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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:01 - Aug 2 with 4848 viewsThePitBoss

Ban Wilson.



Evil ^
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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:32 - Aug 2 with 4816 viewsGlasgowBlue

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 14:36 - Aug 2 by monytowbray

Thanks J2.

If I had of posted the same comment under my name this thread would be six pages long.

Utterly baffling how people can eat meat then get upset about seeing an animal getting killed on the TV.


I completely agree with you and J2.

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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:37 - Aug 2 with 4808 viewsmonytowbray

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:32 - Aug 2 by GlasgowBlue

I completely agree with you and J2.


I prefer meat eaters to be consistent in all honesty. If people don't give a sh1t then whatever, I don't agree but at least it's not having double standards when it comes to animals.

The ones who are bothered by things like hunting or animal testing really should be more receptive to any lifestyle choices that may help them understand they are failing their own beliefs and consider changes to reflect them better. Sadly what you get in return is a barrage of denial and/or abuse.

Le sigh.
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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:40 - Aug 2 with 4804 viewsRyorry

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 14:36 - Aug 2 by monytowbray

Thanks J2.

If I had of posted the same comment under my name this thread would be six pages long.

Utterly baffling how people can eat meat then get upset about seeing an animal getting killed on the TV.


Yeah, cos endangered species like lion and elephant are big parts of the diets of UK meat eaters

Utterly baffling that you can't see the difference - it's comments by yourself like that which turn threads into 6-pagers!

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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:46 - Aug 2 with 4794 viewsmonytowbray

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:40 - Aug 2 by Ryorry

Yeah, cos endangered species like lion and elephant are big parts of the diets of UK meat eaters

Utterly baffling that you can't see the difference - it's comments by yourself like that which turn threads into 6-pagers!


What makes killing one animal okay and killing another wrong?

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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:48 - Aug 2 with 4789 viewsGlasgowBlue

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:40 - Aug 2 by Ryorry

Yeah, cos endangered species like lion and elephant are big parts of the diets of UK meat eaters

Utterly baffling that you can't see the difference - it's comments by yourself like that which turn threads into 6-pagers!


What does the fact whether a species is endangered or not have to do with it? Are you saying blood sports are fine if there is an abundance of prey?

I'm not a fan of any blood sport tbh but I would be a rank hypocrite to start signing petitions and condemning the practice when I am quite happy to have animals killed to feed myself.

Speaking of which, I was at Carfest North this weekend and they had Yorkshire Wagyu Beef in the food hall. Very tasty. Have you tried it as the company are based in your neck of the woods.
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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:49 - Aug 2 with 4787 viewsBlue_Order

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:46 - Aug 2 by monytowbray

What makes killing one animal okay and killing another wrong?


Some animals are probably pricks?
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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:52 - Aug 2 with 4776 viewsmonytowbray

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:49 - Aug 2 by Blue_Order

Some animals are probably pricks?


I think a lot of people on here are pr1cks, I wouldn't kill them for food or sport.

Plus, how are cows and lambs pricks? Chickens too, they are awesome.

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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:56 - Aug 2 with 4765 viewsRyorry

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:48 - Aug 2 by GlasgowBlue

What does the fact whether a species is endangered or not have to do with it? Are you saying blood sports are fine if there is an abundance of prey?

I'm not a fan of any blood sport tbh but I would be a rank hypocrite to start signing petitions and condemning the practice when I am quite happy to have animals killed to feed myself.

Speaking of which, I was at Carfest North this weekend and they had Yorkshire Wagyu Beef in the food hall. Very tasty. Have you tried it as the company are based in your neck of the woods.
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We've all had this argument several times before and I'm not wasting my time going round in circles going through it all again, you can search my posting history if you have time/are interested.

Suffice to say that I do not support any bloodsports done for "fun" (incl fishing), and only eat meat/eggs that have been ethically produced, whether farmed venison, beef or eggs from the animals I can see wandering around in the fields locally.

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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 16:13 - Aug 2 with 4751 viewsGlasgowBlue

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:56 - Aug 2 by Ryorry

We've all had this argument several times before and I'm not wasting my time going round in circles going through it all again, you can search my posting history if you have time/are interested.

Suffice to say that I do not support any bloodsports done for "fun" (incl fishing), and only eat meat/eggs that have been ethically produced, whether farmed venison, beef or eggs from the animals I can see wandering around in the fields locally.


That's why I asked what difference being endangered meant. If you are against blood sports then you are against blood sports.
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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 16:17 - Aug 2 with 4742 viewsRyorry

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 16:13 - Aug 2 by GlasgowBlue

That's why I asked what difference being endangered meant. If you are against blood sports then you are against blood sports.
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The fact that it's endangered species being targeted will very, very obviously be an additional factor for many, esp conservationists, environmentaliists etc.

In reply to your earlier question re the artificial meat - no, don't think I'd heard of it till you mentioned it! but will certainly have a look at it, thanks.

Edit - sorry, certainly didn't mean to downvote that & have corrected it - browser v. jumpy today.
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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 16:20 - Aug 2 with 4729 viewsBlue_Order

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 15:52 - Aug 2 by monytowbray

I think a lot of people on here are pr1cks, I wouldn't kill them for food or sport.

Plus, how are cows and lambs pricks? Chickens too, they are awesome.


Nah, I can't stand chickens. They class themselves as birds but can barely even fly, the idiots.

What about gang raping, baby killing dolphins?
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Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 16:21 - Aug 2 with 4725 viewsGlasgowBlue

Please sign the petition calling on Stan Kroenke, owner of Arsenal FC, to cance on 16:17 - Aug 2 by Ryorry

The fact that it's endangered species being targeted will very, very obviously be an additional factor for many, esp conservationists, environmentaliists etc.

In reply to your earlier question re the artificial meat - no, don't think I'd heard of it till you mentioned it! but will certainly have a look at it, thanks.

Edit - sorry, certainly didn't mean to downvote that & have corrected it - browser v. jumpy today.
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Wagyu isn't artificial. It's Japanese beef raised in Yorkshire.

https://www.yorkshirewagyucompany.co.uk/why-wagyu/yorkshire-wagyu/

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