I really don't understand 13:04 - Oct 17 with 28887 views | TRUE_BLUE123 | Why any Ipswich fan who can get to game wouldn't go on Sunday. Whether your Mick in or Mick out it's the Derby, embarrassing if you don't go to support. Edit/ seeing the replies i feel like I should be clearer. What I meant was that if you Can get to the game you should go. This doesn't mean if you live near Portman road or can get there you should be there, but if you are simply choosing not to go because you don't want to you should be there. People have commitments, some things are more important than football. But my point with it being embarrassing remains, we should be selling more tickets then we have. [Post edited 17 Oct 2017 15:06]
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I really don't understand on 13:44 - Oct 17 by JakeITFC | So your encouragement, being some miles away, will be less than a person in the stands, and your financial input, diluted as it is, will be much lower than a ticket buying Town fan. Probably being less of a supporter on Sunday then, I'd suggest. |
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I really don't understand on 13:49 - Oct 17 with 4735 views | Herbivore |
I really don't understand on 13:39 - Oct 17 by Bobbychase | Are we unique then? As a club I mean. Given that most other clubs get significantly higher average crowds than they did in the late 1980s and 1990s (when our average was at its lowest) |
I don't think we're unique, I think all clubs naturally have a dedicated core of fans, then a number of keen but less committed fans, then plastics (like Libby). Each club will have a different number and it's through the difficult times you tend to see that. Give Cardiff another 12 years at this level with only a couple of tilts at promotion and their attendance would be pitiful - they're only a couple of years removed from the Prem and they've already lost 11k off their attendances. Give Norwich 15 years in this league with no ups or downs and they'd be pulling about half what they do now. Arsenal fairly frequently don't sell out the Emirates anymore (especially for games not covered by season tickets). We've had enough dodgy periods to get a good sense of the make up of our fan base. | |
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I really don't understand on 13:45 - Oct 17 by The_Romford_Blue | That first bit.. so you don't sing at games? Even in the derby against the scum? |
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I really don't understand on 13:51 - Oct 17 with 4722 views | BornBlue |
I really don't understand on 13:45 - Oct 17 by Archer4721 | So you never go and watch them then. The only time you see them is when they're on the telly? You're hardly a "supporter" these days then. |
I never said that. You've jumped to the conclusion that I never go. I pay to go to plenty of games when they are not on TV. Of late I've been going to many away games that fit in with my work travelling around the country. But if I am going to decide to purchase maybe 3 or 4 tickets a season, why would I do so on one of the few games I could already watch. Of course this is the best game of the year, but I'm also being sensible about it; the most ITFC watching per pound across the season. | | | |
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I really don't understand on 13:49 - Oct 17 by Herbivore | I don't think we're unique, I think all clubs naturally have a dedicated core of fans, then a number of keen but less committed fans, then plastics (like Libby). Each club will have a different number and it's through the difficult times you tend to see that. Give Cardiff another 12 years at this level with only a couple of tilts at promotion and their attendance would be pitiful - they're only a couple of years removed from the Prem and they've already lost 11k off their attendances. Give Norwich 15 years in this league with no ups or downs and they'd be pulling about half what they do now. Arsenal fairly frequently don't sell out the Emirates anymore (especially for games not covered by season tickets). We've had enough dodgy periods to get a good sense of the make up of our fan base. |
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I really don't understand on 13:54 - Oct 17 with 4705 views | Bobbychase |
I really don't understand on 13:49 - Oct 17 by Herbivore | I don't think we're unique, I think all clubs naturally have a dedicated core of fans, then a number of keen but less committed fans, then plastics (like Libby). Each club will have a different number and it's through the difficult times you tend to see that. Give Cardiff another 12 years at this level with only a couple of tilts at promotion and their attendance would be pitiful - they're only a couple of years removed from the Prem and they've already lost 11k off their attendances. Give Norwich 15 years in this league with no ups or downs and they'd be pulling about half what they do now. Arsenal fairly frequently don't sell out the Emirates anymore (especially for games not covered by season tickets). We've had enough dodgy periods to get a good sense of the make up of our fan base. |
Yeah you might be right but I cannot see Cardiff ever getting a season average of 4,000 again however badly they play/plummet | |
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I really don't understand on 13:54 - Oct 17 with 4704 views | The_Romford_Blue |
No need to get defensive and throw little jabs like that is there. As it goes, I'm on a break from doing a garden. You don't 'want to be there'. If you wanted to be there, you'd go. You're quite happy sitting watching on sky. That's not an issue, I just wondered how you could have that mentality that's all. | |
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I really don't understand on 13:55 - Oct 17 with 4701 views | Bobbychase |
Ah, so you're saying you're a superfan? Gotcha. ;-) | |
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I really don't understand on 13:55 - Oct 17 with 4699 views | Herbivore |
Just a gentle ribbing, I couldn't resist. | |
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I really don't understand on 13:55 - Oct 17 with 4696 views | hoppy |
* other clubs are available. | |
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I really don't understand on 13:55 - Oct 17 with 4694 views | JakeITFC |
Why are you getting defensive/annoyed? | | | |
I really don't understand on 13:56 - Oct 17 with 4694 views | Bobbychase |
I remember their fans at Charlton the day they dropped into League One, singing all those songs about the interesting times ahead. Hate to think what would happen at Portman Road if we were a League One club. | |
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I really don't understand on 13:55 - Oct 17 by Bobbychase | Ah, so you're saying you're a superfan? Gotcha. ;-) |
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I really don't understand on 13:57 - Oct 17 with 4685 views | Archer4721 |
I really don't understand on 13:51 - Oct 17 by BornBlue | I never said that. You've jumped to the conclusion that I never go. I pay to go to plenty of games when they are not on TV. Of late I've been going to many away games that fit in with my work travelling around the country. But if I am going to decide to purchase maybe 3 or 4 tickets a season, why would I do so on one of the few games I could already watch. Of course this is the best game of the year, but I'm also being sensible about it; the most ITFC watching per pound across the season. |
Ahh ok. Well in that case surely cost of going doesn't come into it , if you already go to plenty of games up and down the country? | | | |
I really don't understand on 13:57 - Oct 17 with 4679 views | J2BLUE |
I really don't understand on 13:54 - Oct 17 by The_Romford_Blue | No need to get defensive and throw little jabs like that is there. As it goes, I'm on a break from doing a garden. You don't 'want to be there'. If you wanted to be there, you'd go. You're quite happy sitting watching on sky. That's not an issue, I just wondered how you could have that mentality that's all. |
He's explained his case. I think his point was fair enough. He's a married man living with his wife who has family commitments. You are a single bloke living at home, see your parents every day and probably have few commitments financially. He has no case to answer. | |
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I really don't understand on 13:58 - Oct 17 with 4675 views | Bobbychase |
I always get you two mixed up. Can't you start wearing hats or something? Different hats, obviously. | |
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I really don't understand on 13:58 - Oct 17 with 4676 views | Herbivore |
I really don't understand on 13:54 - Oct 17 by Bobbychase | Yeah you might be right but I cannot see Cardiff ever getting a season average of 4,000 again however badly they play/plummet |
I think I could see it close to that. Rugby is their sport, it's not much of a footballing city really and they've had little success to build up a big fan base over the years. They were third or fourth tier for years (including the time in question) and given that they're already down at 16k last season when they were in the Prem in 2014 I think another relegation and a few years of stagnation would see them pulling under 10k for sure. | |
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I really don't understand on 13:58 - Oct 17 with 4675 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
I really don't understand on 13:37 - Oct 17 by Bobbychase | In that period, Norwich have had some awful seasons as well as good ones. They also had a season in League One but retained the bulk of their support. |
That argument hold absolutely no water.. If we were to have been relegated 10 years ago and then romped to promotion in L1 then we would have filled out the stadium without fail. The league (and opposition) isn't really as big of an issue if you turn up each game with high expectancy of winning.. and winning well. On the flip side we've been ground down with relentless monotony which understandably, many have found other things to do than p!$$ money up the wall to spend a couple of hours getting yourself into a fit of rage and frustration. | | | |
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I really don't understand on 13:54 - Oct 17 by The_Romford_Blue | No need to get defensive and throw little jabs like that is there. As it goes, I'm on a break from doing a garden. You don't 'want to be there'. If you wanted to be there, you'd go. You're quite happy sitting watching on sky. That's not an issue, I just wondered how you could have that mentality that's all. |
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I really don't understand on 13:59 - Oct 17 with 4669 views | Stenvict |
No one asked for your life story mate | |
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I really don't understand on 13:55 - Oct 17 by JakeITFC | Why are you getting defensive/annoyed? |
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I really don't understand on 14:00 - Oct 17 with 4662 views | The_Romford_Blue |
I really don't understand on 13:57 - Oct 17 by J2BLUE | He's explained his case. I think his point was fair enough. He's a married man living with his wife who has family commitments. You are a single bloke living at home, see your parents every day and probably have few commitments financially. He has no case to answer. |
I never said he has a case to answer. He once questioned me about something for so long and his reasoning was 'if you are going to post on a public forum, be prepared to be questioned on it'. Is it not fair game for me to do the exact same thing? At least in this case it's about Ipswich! | |
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I really don't understand on 14:00 - Oct 17 with 4659 views | Herbivore |
I really don't understand on 13:56 - Oct 17 by Bobbychase | I remember their fans at Charlton the day they dropped into League One, singing all those songs about the interesting times ahead. Hate to think what would happen at Portman Road if we were a League One club. |
Bear in mind though they went down having been in the Prem just a year (or was it two?) earlier. They had a squad that was ridiculous for League 1 and rightly bounced back easily. If we went down it'd be off the back of 15 years of nothingness so it's not really comparable. | |
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I really don't understand on 13:59 - Oct 17 by Stenvict | No one asked for your life story mate |
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I really don't understand on 14:01 - Oct 17 with 4653 views | BornBlue |
I really don't understand on 13:57 - Oct 17 by Archer4721 | Ahh ok. Well in that case surely cost of going doesn't come into it , if you already go to plenty of games up and down the country? |
If Sky puts any Ipswich game on Sky, I will not be at the ground. I will then pay for an additional 3, 4, 5 whatever games live per season. By going Sunday I would be "paying twice". | | | |
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